Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Afrikan:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
It's not like we are wasting them like Mike Martz. I agree with what you are saying but both times they where needed. Basically Singletary sees us losing momentum and falling apart and he tried to stop it. Nothing wrong with using them to try to turn around the game.
The timeouts WERE NOT NEEDED! A complete waste. Timeouts are for:
~ End of half.
~ End of game.
~ Challenges.
That is it period. If a HC doesn't know that he shouldn't be HC.
at this post..... Timeouts maybe for those three things, but they have been used for various reason through out football history.... I LOVE THE WAY SINGLETARY chooses to use ours.....
you my look at it as a Pep talk.... I look at it as situations were our defense looked tired and were giving up considerable yardage......so a timeout to rest them and at the same time rest them mentally for a short period of time, while reminding them what the situation is and what to look out for....is very necessary, I don't expect our Defense to play Perfect all the time.
like I have said before Atlanta's coach Smith made a wonderful decision to call for a playaction and a deep pass after that timeout..... he knew that the 9er defense wanted to make a play bad for each other and coach....and were most likely going to be aggressive.......so I think everyone on Defense learned from that play....in the future, yes SD we are still going to use those types of time outs, in the future I'm sure they will look out for a misdirection play after those types of time outs.....
When did Bill Walsh ever use timeouts like use? When did Jimmy Johnson ever use timeouts like this?
If he wants to be the motivational PEP RALLY guy mabye he can be our MASCOT instead of our HC. I'm calling rediculous when I see it. It's absurd they way he uses timeouts and he WILL COST US GAMES!
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Oct 22, 2009 at 10:46 AM
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Oct 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM
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What is funny about SD's post is that he picks Nolan's 6-0 Denver Broncos to make his point on proper coaching and preparation. Other than Nolannonsense, was there a bigger Nolan hater
Oct 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!
If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?
The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.
[ Edited by WINiner on Oct 22, 2009 at 10:52 AM ]
Oct 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Afrikan:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I do have a big problem with PEP RALLY TIMEOUTS. That should be ZERO. PEP RALLY's are for practice. Game timeouts are to stop the clock at the end of half or end of game or for challenges.
Yelling at other teams players is well below HC material.
It's not like we are wasting them like Mike Martz. I agree with what you are saying but both times they where needed. Basically Singletary sees us losing momentum and falling apart and he tried to stop it. Nothing wrong with using them to try to turn around the game.
The timeouts WERE NOT NEEDED! A complete waste. Timeouts are for:
~ End of half.
~ End of game.
~ Challenges.
That is it period. If a HC doesn't know that he shouldn't be HC.
at this post..... Timeouts maybe for those three things, but they have been used for various reason through out football history.... I LOVE THE WAY SINGLETARY chooses to use ours.....
you my look at it as a Pep talk.... I look at it as situations were our defense looked tired and were giving up considerable yardage......so a timeout to rest them and at the same time rest them mentally for a short period of time, while reminding them what the situation is and what to look out for....is very necessary, I don't expect our Defense to play Perfect all the time.
like I have said before Atlanta's coach Smith made a wonderful decision to call for a playaction and a deep pass after that timeout..... he knew that the 9er defense wanted to make a play bad for each other and coach....and were most likely going to be aggressive.......so I think everyone on Defense learned from that play....in the future, yes SD we are still going to use those types of time outs, in the future I'm sure they will look out for a misdirection play after those types of time outs.....
When did Bill Walsh ever use timeouts like use? When did Jimmy Johnson ever use timeouts like this?
If he wants to be the motivational PEP RALLY guy mabye he can be our MASCOT instead of our HC. I'm calling rediculous when I see it. It's absurd they way he uses timeouts and he WILL COST US GAMES!
awesome.
Oct 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!
If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?
The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.
Hmmmmmm. Good point. I don't think this needs to be answered.
Oct 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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A. Packer recievers are better
B. Rodgers is a better QB
C. The're play calling is not as predictable as ours.
B. Rodgers is a better QB
C. The're play calling is not as predictable as ours.
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!
If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?
The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.
seriously, people need to stop using the O line as a scapegoat for our team's problems. The new fad in NINER TALK is to be like "HEY O LINE IS WHERE IT STOPS AND STARTS, THATS THE REAL PROBLEM" and they think they're all smart and knowledgeable about football....
NO
our QB and playcalling is worse than our O line. Aaron Rodgers seems to be doing alright, his line is probably worse than ours, and don't give me that better WR's BS. A good quarterback w/ a OC that has a general idea of how to make a gameplan (raye clearly cant) can make no names playmakers. (see Miles Austin, Austin Collie, Sidney Rice, Sims-Walker, Manningham).
[ Edited by DynastyChile on Oct 22, 2009 at 11:09 AM ]
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM
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SanDiego49er you are a joke.
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by RichmondPete:
SanDiego49er you are a joke.
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by DynastyChile:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!
If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?
The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.
seriously, people need to stop using the O line as a scapegoat for our team's problems. The new fad in NINER TALK is to be like "HEY O LINE IS WHERE IT STOPS AND STARTS, THATS THE REAL PROBLEM" and they think they're all smart and knowledgeable about football....
NO
our QB and playcalling is worse than our O line. Aaron Rodgers seems to be doing alright, his line is probably worse than ours, and don't give me that better WR's BS. A good quarterback w/ a OC that has a general idea of how to make a gameplan (raye clearly cant) can make no names playmakers. (see Miles Austin, Austin Collie, Sidney Rice, Sims-Walker, Manningham).
All of those "no name playmakers" have as much, or more talent than our WRs (not counting Crabbtree).
I agree that O line is not a silver bullet, but without a solid O line an offence has NO chance.
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by RichmondPete:
SanDiego49er you are a joke.
why? cuz he has no right to his opnion !
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by DynastyChile:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!
If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?
The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.
seriously, people need to stop using the O line as a scapegoat for our team's problems. The new fad in NINER TALK is to be like "HEY O LINE IS WHERE IT STOPS AND STARTS, THATS THE REAL PROBLEM" and they think they're all smart and knowledgeable about football....
NO
our QB and playcalling is worse than our O line. Aaron Rodgers seems to be doing alright, his line is probably worse than ours, and don't give me that better WR's BS. A good quarterback w/ a OC that has a general idea of how to make a gameplan (raye clearly cant) can make no names playmakers. (see Miles Austin, Austin Collie, Sidney Rice, Sims-Walker, Manningham).
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by jta854:Originally posted by DynastyChile:Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by GilleysPuB:
Like Mike said, It all starts with the O-line. If they suck, everyone else will suck. TO I think were used ok, TO are easily criticized if they don't work, so chill out on the judging, he's 50/50. Remember our best player has not been on the field for a while. I do think Hill needs to read his hot route a little better and let his reciever know at the line. I never see him yelling and pointing at the line, Whats up with that?
By the way this is my first post! GO NINERS!
If thats true, then explain to me how Arron Rodgers, who has been sacked 9 times more then Hill, and who's Oline has only manager to open enough holes for Grant to be the 17th ranked RB(Gore is still ranked 7th even after missing 2 games), has a rating over 100 and has more TD's then Hill?
The thought that your oline must be dominant to be successful is a farce.
seriously, people need to stop using the O line as a scapegoat for our team's problems. The new fad in NINER TALK is to be like "HEY O LINE IS WHERE IT STOPS AND STARTS, THATS THE REAL PROBLEM" and they think they're all smart and knowledgeable about football....
NO
our QB and playcalling is worse than our O line. Aaron Rodgers seems to be doing alright, his line is probably worse than ours, and don't give me that better WR's BS. A good quarterback w/ a OC that has a general idea of how to make a gameplan (raye clearly cant) can make no names playmakers. (see Miles Austin, Austin Collie, Sidney Rice, Sims-Walker, Manningham).
All of those "no name playmakers" have as much, or more talent than our WRs (not counting Crabbtree).
I agree that O line is not a silver bullet, but without a solid O line an offence has NO chance.
realllly? so you think if we had Miles Austin on our team as a second receiver, you wouldnt be b***hing about how much you would rather have Josh Morgan who is tearing it up in dallas with Tony Romo? If miles austin was on our team, he would fall in line with every other one of our receivers who make maybe 2 catches a game.
Oct 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:Oh my werd.Originally posted by TonyStarks:
This sucks because I can't a) call a stupid poster,''stupid''
b) call you intelligent
c) call the guys who say Nate Davis should start stupid
d) call the guys who say Nate Davis should start intelligent
Oh C3PO , what do I do?!!!
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Oct 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by ObePwnD:Originally posted by NineFourNiner:Originally posted by 9erlover:
I've been a webzoner for a long time, but don't post much. But I will say this, this sandiego dude(ette) is a crybaby. Waaaa. The dude said at the beginning of the year we'd be 1-15. Now we're 3-2, and somehow the coach sucks. Where's the logic? I guess that says it all.
Hmmm. Good point.
While fans certainly may criticize and still be fans, I think that Tico's point is a good one: When a "fan" consistently stays silent when the team is winning (or worse, hopes for failure in the face of victory) and b***hes when it is losing, how can that person be a fan?
Now, THERE'S a f*cking question Niner fans! Let's see how long we wait to get a response, AND what kinda f*cked-up logic comes with it.