CRABTREE SIGNED

Originally posted by King49er:

Originally posted by RonMexico:
I'm cuddling with my crabtree jersey right now

damn you, I ordered mine today, I promised myself I wouldn't buy one until he signed

least u didnt promise urself to burn one until he signed

Originally posted by Mospeed:
I love Frank in this pic. He's like, "whos this clown."

and crabtree's laughing at frank's practice fashion

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Notice Crabtree has his name taped to his helmet like nobody knows his name.



No SF emblem yet either.

No special treatment kid.

you think singeltary would have it any other way?

In a related note, here are the Details on the Crabtree Contract:

Crabtree: Inside the Details

Of note:

*$1.83M Base Salary ($140.7K/week)

* 4-Year Contract Totals: Raji: $20.53M ; Crabtree $23M

Originally posted by TDNiners:
I've been hard at work all day piecing together how MC signing went down.
Here are my findings put together from different sources.

Ring....

Unnamed Jets official: Hey Crabs, you know we are being investigated for tampering.

Crabs: yeah....

Unnamed Jets official: That $40 mil we promised.... well.... I'm afraid we can't trade for you or draft you anymore.

Crabs: WWWWWHHHHAAAAAATTTTTT?

Unnamed Jets official: We are really sorry. Its not my idea, don't blame me.

Crabs: You can't do this to the Crabtree! They have songs written after me. Souja boy remember?

Unnamed Jets official: I know, you told us several times. Oh by the way we are trading for Braylon Edwards tomorrow.

Crabs: You f**king piece of s**t! you're trading for a Diva who can't catch instead of me???? You lying dirtbag!!!.... I'm going to score 10 TDs on your sorry ass team! You remember that.... ---- slams the phone.

Crabs to himself: Crap!... oh f**k f**k f**k f**k f**k... I have to fly to San Fran right now and accept the deal. Let me call my useless agent.

Iphone rings to the tune of .... Money for nothing and chicks for free....

Parker: Parker

Crabs: You mother f**ker. When will you going to tell me?

Parker: I was just about to call you Crabs. I can't believe they backed out. It was all set. That Deion should have never opened his jaba the hut mouth

Crabs: Shut your pie hole! .... Now get your fat ass to San Fran right now.

Parker: Does it have to be tonight?

Crabs: I swear, I am going shove my fist do you your throat and rip out your tongue.

Parker: Ok ok... I'll leave right now.

Ring........

Deion: Yo Crabs my boy, heard you're freaking out.

Crabs: I'm not f**king talking to you man. You're the reason I'm in this f**king mess.

Deion: just chill dude!... Have another subway. We still have the Boys!

Crabs: Have another f**king subway!... Thats all I've been doing the past 3 months. If I see another subway, I'm going to kill someone. Are you just plain stupid Deion!... Jerry Jones is not going to pay me. He just finished 3 plastic surgeries and he just paid a gazzilion dollars for the stadium with the big TV. I don't trust that howdy doody guy. Now, I'm going to Frisco and tell Hammer to pick me up in the airport. Tell him to rent a black SUV, I wouldn't be caught dead in his car. If his not there, I'm going to cut his Subway supply.

Crabs hangs up on Deion... .. Prime time my ass... I could have scored 20 TD on that fool. He doesn't even have any style. He picks clothes out of Cher's reject closet.

Before the meeting (undisclosed location).....

Parker to Crabtree: Now we have to have a united front on this. We have reputations to uphold. When we're united we can get more.

Crabs: Whats this f**king WE stuff. You just worried nobody would sign with you next year. Don't you worry about me, I'll show you f**king united.

Parker: Relax, relax have another subway.

Crabs: Ahhhhhhh... (grabs a pen about to stab Parker in the eye...... then)

Jed, Paraag, MCCloughan walks in the room... Parker and Crabs both look at them.

Crabs stands up and shouts "It his f**king fault. He told me to do it. The Tree by himself can't come up with this lame ass plan!"

Jed looks at them and says "I'm glad to have you here Michael. I'm sure Paraag can iron out the details with Parker. I don't think you would be needing me here."

Jed leaves the room... He spots Maiocco... "Damn, I'll cut through the restaurant, he won't catch me he's too slow. How the hell the he find out about this, I bet he already told the zone"

Back in the room....

Paraag looks at Parker laughing. Sits down and put down a calculator and voodoo doll that looks like Ralph Barbieri with 20 pins stuck to it.

Crabs stays for a while deciding whether to kill Parker now or later. He leaves.

Opens the door... "Oh man reporters, I'll go through the restaurant." "s**t, I can't believe this guy is chasing me. Even with my slow 40, I can out run this white boy".
"Hammer, better have parked that SUV on the side. Dammit didn't listen to me again. I have to run to the front now. I'm cutting that Too legit to s**t off".... " Hahha.... escaped from the reporter. Too easy..... Tree does it again..... where's my song?... Driver play my song, Crabtree is in the house"


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Ok I couldn't get more details after that.

Now you know the truth




Go Niners

Now that was classic! Post of the year!

Originally posted by darkknight49:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
Notice Crabtree has his name taped to his helmet like nobody knows his name.



No SF emblem yet either.

No special treatment kid.

you think singeltary would have it any other way?

In a related note, here are the Details on the Crabtree Contract:

Crabtree: Inside the Details

Of note:

*$1.83M Base Salary ($140.7K/week)

* 4-Year Contract Totals: Raji: $20.53M ; Crabtree $23M

Thanks for the link, dark. Great info.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by Esco:

Originally posted by KRS-1:
So where are the guys who did not want Crabtree on this team ?

Originally posted by RDB4216:
I guess I'll be in the minority here, and say I am NOT happy about this signing. Especially the timing of it. IF the NFL was going to actually do anything over the tampering accusations, our best bet to get someting done - and the best chance to maximize the penalty against the Jets (and compensation for us!) was when Crabtree wasn't signed and it looked like we were going to lose the pic altogether.

I was really hoping we wouldn't even consider signing him until after the NFL ruled. Now they will just look at it as "Oh well, so he missed out on a few months of a 5-year contract". Stupid move.

I'm talking about all those who went off in the Crabtree discussion threads who did not want his "greedy, selfish, diva, no passion for football ass". Those who went off and called him every name in the book, those who said he did not want to play here.

They are there, but you really can't polarize general board sentiment as your opposition in the Crabtree saga. That's very disingenuous to the debate, something you and MD did a lot.

Personally I wanted Crabtree on this team, but thought it was absolutely ridicules to even contemplate giving him a 100% raise between the 2008 10th slot and 2009 10th slot. The reported asking price was ridicules and wasn't even worth mentioning in the same breath of the others who got contracts outside of the slotted system.

I'm elated he's actually on this team as i'm sure most are, but that doesn't mean there is unyielding love for him. He has even more pressure to become the type of player we are expecting and to carry the type of attitude he should.

in general, lets celebrate this signing before we get back into the egotistical attitude that runs ramped through some vets.

No my stance was that the 49ers needed to be more aggressive in their negotiations. I never said give him a 100% raise but I knew that if the initial offer was not going to cut it then the 49ers needed to (as MD said) think outside the box.

It was quite obvious how our very own GM felt about this kid and with that in mind Scot needed to find a way to get him under contract and not lose him to the 2010 draft or via trade seeing as his feelings were very strong and it would reflect somewhat negatively on our team in the future with other agents for being unwilling to negotiate or think outside said box especially when you speak highly of a players talent, potential and abilities.

I was against those who wanted to give up on trying to get a deal done and those who wanted to berate his character when Crabtree or his agent had never spoken on the matter. Meanwhile a good number of people were adamant in not signing him and waiting until March to trade him. Their whole stance was based off of what "sources were saying", so basically rumors and heresay which is not fact. No one really knew what was truly going on but they assumed they did.

One team calls him a Diva and he has a holdout in his rookie season and everyone is ready to label him a Diva when in fact our own GM did not believe him to be a Diva after meeting with him on 2 occasions pre-draft. As for being greedy and selfish no one knew exactly what he wanted financially, again there was only heresay and rumors from sources as to what those demands were so to say he was indeed greedy is unfair. Barry Sanders was never called a Diva or greedy or selfish but he held out in his rookie season (in total he held out 3 times due to contract negotiations). To question his heart and desire was also unfair. It's a business and all reports from those who knew Crabtree said he had a huge passion for the game and desire to play and that dates back to being redshirted his freshman year as it has been documented by his coaches at TT about his heartfelt disappointment of not being able to play that year. There is no actual proof pointing to the opposite. People need to learn to separate the business side of this sport now from the actual game.

It was not the general board sentiment nor did I ever say or imply that (I implied those who did not want him and used those do not want words as reasons why, not those who used those reasons why he did not deserve a unique contract) but it was that of some members. Those are the ones I am interested in hearing from although I am not expecting everyone to forgive and forget. However do they still feel the way they do now, because many if not most of those felt completely different back on draft day.

You and MD can act as high and mighty as you like, but sometimes when you place yourself in the public light, and expect to make money based on how the public perceives you, perception is reality.

All the hatred and the character assination could have been avoided had they made an effort to meet with the team, let those efforts be known, instead of weeks of no contact, including shunning an invitation from the acting team president for 2+ weeks.

I did not talk trash about Crabtree during this whole thing, however I completely understand why people's emotions got the best of them and why some people STILL have bad feelings toward the guy.

What I find funny is how you and Mr. Contradiction acted all high and mighty and were willing to understand Crabtree and his team while critisizing the Niners even in light of NO info at all from his camp one way or the other, yet you weren't willing to understand the fans you interact with everyday, and their point of view.

Fan is short for Fanatic. What the hell else reaction could anybody expect from a fanbase. Some of us view the Niners as an integral part of our lives, and a psuedo family of sorts. If someone bad mouths your family, you get angry and take the family side until the point it is proven that the family was wrong. In this case there was no proo so your high and mighty attitudes were not only hippocritical, but unwarranted. Anyone who expected the majority of our fanbase to react any different is full of themselves or completely unrealistic.

The public's perception of who Crabtree was as a person was not and is not reality. This is where you are wrong, it was not just the public who perceived Crabtree to be one of if not the best player in this draft class. Scot Mccloughan was on record, not to mention a lot of other former NFL players and employees people who have made their living from football perceived him to be what the public agreed he was.

As for who he was a person, again our own GM never believed him to be a Diva like the Browns claimed. Those who knew Crabtree on a personal level were also able to stand up and say the same things Scot said and Singletary solidified the fact yesterday calling him a player of character and wanting players like Crabtree on his team.

It's people's emotions that got in the way of seeing things for what they were, a business negotiation in a sport where the business is now as important as the game itself.

Brandt likely had it right when he said that when there were no talks between the 2 sides it's probably because Eugene Parker decided to quit talking to the team until there was something new to talk about. Remember Jed claimed Parker and Paraag were talking nearly everyday at one point.

Why would we not see Crabtree and Parker's side of things ? When looking at any situation if one wants to pass a fair judgement then one will look at it from all angles and aspects. And it's funny that you bring up family because Crabtree was a member of this family as well at that time (and still is a member of this family) so giving the family member (Crabtree) the benefit of the doubt was only fair seeing as we did not know what was going on with him. He never chose to go to the media, he and his agent remained professional meanwhile nearly everyone flocked to the 49ers side of things based off of so-called "insider league sources" which provided us with a bunch of heresay and rumors but no actual facts because the 49ers themselves never went public either through this negotiation. They remained professional in their approach themselves.

So basically we have everyone perceiving their reality off of unsubstantiated claims. Unfair to assassinate and berate someone's character off of that.

As for being high and mighty and contradictory you may want to go back and read what a lot of those posters were saying during this holdout and compare them to what they are saying now (and when we learned the two sides were going to meet and renew negotiations) and what they said when Crabtree was drafted. Go back and look at how they were responding to someone looking at the glass as half full instead of half empty. The pot was trying to call the kettle black many of times. The fans were being unwilling to understand Crabtree's point of view, the only one they wanted to understand was the one they perceived off of what the league insiders were leaking.

I woke up this morning, got on the zone, and felt like I had nothing to do cuz Crabtree already signed. Not that I mind that, of course.

It's all fun and games until this guy struggles....

Quote:
Adam_Schefter RT @FauxJohnMadden How good is Deion Sanders? Even post retirement he's shut down two of the best college WR's in football!

So what do you guys think he'll be?

A team player or a ''gun -for -hire'' Deion Sanders type guy playing wherever the money is?


I think the later

Originally posted by hungarian9erfan:

Quote:
Adam_Schefter RT @FauxJohnMadden How good is Deion Sanders? Even post retirement he's shut down two of the best college WR's in football!

Who is the 2nd wr?

Originally posted by luis1985:

Originally posted by hungarian9erfan:

Quote:
Adam_Schefter RT @FauxJohnMadden How good is Deion Sanders? Even post retirement he's shut down two of the best college WR's in football!

Who is the 2nd wr?

Dez Bryant from Oklahoma State. He's projected to be one of the top 2 WRs in next years draft class

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by kidash:
so.... no MadDog sighting yet, huh???

- 98

No he showed up in typical Maddog fashion. Claiming that he was still right

According to Andrew Brandt's article on the National Football Post, I am right. Both sides made concessions, and both sides won battles on the slot. Brandt knows his stuff. He is a former salary cap administrator for an NFL team, and his breakdown was excellent.

Here is the pasted information at the conclusion. Many others have attached the link throughout this thread:

The Wait: The offer on the table for Parker and Crabtree of a couple days ago was:

Five years, $20M, $16M guaranteed.

The final deal is:

Six years, $32M ($28M over the first five), $17M guaranteed.

Analysis: Many have speculated that Crabtree took the same deal he was being offered for weeks, if not months, by the team. Parker and Crabtree may have made $8M over the next five years with their trip to San Francisco yesterday.

Hopefully the above data points out the strengths and weaknesses of this deal from both sides. It was a win for the team on some things and a win for the player on others, a deal that neither side feels great about. That usually means it is a good deal for both sides.

This was quite a saga, with a final face-to-face meeting spurred by a chance meeting between 49ers president and owner Jed York and MC Hammer at a social function. Only in the NFL

I'm sorry I have not been able to respond to some that have been claiming "victory" the last couple days, and have attempted to attack my position that both sides would win.

I guess, once again, these individuals who hope for nothing more for me to be wrong..... are wrong, and I....am right. What a shocker!!!

Cheers.

P.S. Eric Heitmann is still a good football player!!!!

Regarding Crabtree's contract, If he does not make his incentives its a six year deal which means after year 5 he becomes a restricted free agent in which the niners would have right of first refusal if he is offerred a big contract by another team. If the niners do not match than they would receive 2 first rounders in compensation unless other compensation is agreed on in a trade. So it appears that whether the deal is voidable or not there is the potential to lose Crabtree after the 5th year of the contract and depending on his performance we may or may not get compensation. Hope fully, this guy turns out to be a player and we are able to resign him before this happens but if Parker is still his agent at that point you never know.

Originally posted by 49erWill:

It should be fun to see the Crabtree haters attempt to dismiss Brandt's breakdown. This will be high comedy...let's take on a capologist.

I can see smoke rising out their ears right now.

Cheers.