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Originally posted by Giant9er:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
This sure shut everyone up over at the Jets board...

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200136&page=23

Amp, that is classic Great job

that westcoastoffensive guy is a prick, really in denial and probably scared that the jets will be found guilty
Originally posted by AmpLee:
This sure shut everyone up over at the Jets board...

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200136&page=23

Hey Amp, you should have made the douche bag aware that unless the NFL got solid proof, there would be no investigation. The niners had to give the NFL some kind of proof before the NFL would even look into it. You can't just claim tampering and have the NFL look into it.
WestCoastOffensive offends me.......putz.

At least most of the dudes on that forum were willing to entertain the thought that the Jets could have tampered.
Originally posted by BHulman:
Originally posted by BigMar:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
I thought this was interesting.....

Wells says he's made millions in the bail-bonds business, and doesn't need to ride his cousin's coattails for money or access. He's gotten past the ropes and seen the NFL high life as a bodyguard for former Dallas Cowboys players Michael Irvin and Adam "Pacman" Jones, and is widely known in the Cowboys organization. Wells says it takes a village to raise a young African-American man, and that he always wanted to make sure the young Crabtree had someone strong to lean on.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?page=hotread2/crabtree

Wells is widely known in the Cowboys organization?

ding, ding, ding.... we just discovered team number 2 that Deion was talk'en abouts.

Clearly had to be the Jets and Cowboys.... just as we guessed.

So funny, first loud mouty Deion spills it and now Crabtree's loud mouth Cousin chims in.

The only way this holdout makes sense to me is that some team or teams have somehow indicated to Crabtree that they are willing to meet his price.

At this point, I think it is pretty much accepted that in order for Craptree to hold out this long and now change his phone number, he knows 1 or 2 teams have said they would pay more than the 9ers. It's really the only reason for this ongoing soap opera.

I think a great majority now recognize that Craptree is all about his stat's and robbing some team for huge money before he steps on the field.

Yeah.... this guy has a passion to play football, NOT!
we really need to take away all of this jerk's leverage. Deion said 2 teams are willing to pay him and I think we busted one in the Jets we need to hire someone to investigate this and turn in the other team (Dallas duh) until we have stripped him of his leverage or ace up his sleeve he will continue to hold out.
It would be nice to pick up another draft pick out of this. Didn't we get forced to swap picks because of the Lance Briggs fiasco?
Originally posted by ninergold:
It would be nice to pick up another draft pick out of this. Didn't we get forced to swap picks because of the Lance Briggs fiasco?

we swapped 3rd and lost a 5th
When will we know the outcome of the tampering?
Originally posted by solidg2000:
When will we know the outcome of the tampering?

Probally about the time you get to 12000 posts.
  • pd24
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Parker will be a key figure in the tampering case, too
Posted by Mike Florio on September 28, 2009 10:59 AM ET
We mentioned on Sunday the report from ESPN's Chris Mortensen regarding the possibility that the Michael Crabtree tampering investigation will include an interview of Deion Sanders, a league employee (via NFL Network) who created the current mess by talking on the air about the notion that two teams are willing to pay Crabtree twice the amount that the 49ers have placed on the table.

There's another key figure in the tampering investigation: Agent Eugene Parker.

Parker isn't required to cooperate, and he likely won't. But, if he doesn't, he won't be able to rebut any information that the 49ers might provide regarding things that Parker said to them about, for example, the Jets' interest in Crabtree.

The Jets surely will deny making any such statements -- and that's why, as Michael Lombardi pointed out last week on Inside the NFL, tampering is so rampant.

Basically, they all cheat, and then they all lie to cover up their cheating.

In this case, however, it'll be interesting to see how the league handles the conflicting information. If, on one hand, the Niners says that Parker said something that would indicate tampering by the Jets and if, on the other hand, the Jets predictably deny it, how will it be resolved?

By choosing to remain silent, Parker could be giving credence to the Niners' position. If, after all, Parker had nothing to hide, he'd talk. Moreover, if the Jets truly are a potential suitor for Crabtree's services, Parker would want to avoid doing anything that might remove them as an option. Needless to say, if Parker were to snitch on the Jets, they probably would lose interest in his client. (And, possibly, in some of his other clients.)

Meanwhile, we're hopeful that the ongoing CBA discussions (the next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow) will include negotiations regarding a joint mechanism for securing mandatory cooperation from agents in cases like this. Though the NFL has no power over any of them, the NFLPA exclusively regulates their work. So while Commissioner Roger Goodell can't force Parker to talk, De Smith can. And Goodell and Smith need to realize that an atmosphere of brazen cheating does nothing to advance the long-term interests of the game, even if it sometimes helps a player finagle more money in the short-term, or a team to get a player that it covets.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/28/parker-will-be-a-key-figure-in-the-tampering-case-too/

Originally posted by pd24:
Quote:
Parker will be a key figure in the tampering case, too
Posted by Mike Florio on September 28, 2009 10:59 AM ET
We mentioned on Sunday the report from ESPN's Chris Mortensen regarding the possibility that the Michael Crabtree tampering investigation will include an interview of Deion Sanders, a league employee (via NFL Network) who created the current mess by talking on the air about the notion that two teams are willing to pay Crabtree twice the amount that the 49ers have placed on the table.

There's another key figure in the tampering investigation: Agent Eugene Parker.

Parker isn't required to cooperate, and he likely won't. But, if he doesn't, he won't be able to rebut any information that the 49ers might provide regarding things that Parker said to them about, for example, the Jets' interest in Crabtree.

The Jets surely will deny making any such statements -- and that's why, as Michael Lombardi pointed out last week on Inside the NFL, tampering is so rampant.

Basically, they all cheat, and then they all lie to cover up their cheating.

In this case, however, it'll be interesting to see how the league handles the conflicting information. If, on one hand, the Niners says that Parker said something that would indicate tampering by the Jets and if, on the other hand, the Jets predictably deny it, how will it be resolved?

By choosing to remain silent, Parker could be giving credence to the Niners' position. If, after all, Parker had nothing to hide, he'd talk. Moreover, if the Jets truly are a potential suitor for Crabtree's services, Parker would want to avoid doing anything that might remove them as an option. Needless to say, if Parker were to snitch on the Jets, they probably would lose interest in his client. (And, possibly, in some of his other clients.)

Meanwhile, we're hopeful that the ongoing CBA discussions (the next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow) will include negotiations regarding a joint mechanism for securing mandatory cooperation from agents in cases like this. Though the NFL has no power over any of them, the NFLPA exclusively regulates their work. So while Commissioner Roger Goodell can't force Parker to talk, De Smith can. And Goodell and Smith need to realize that an atmosphere of brazen cheating does nothing to advance the long-term interests of the game, even if it sometimes helps a player finagle more money in the short-term, or a team to get a player that it covets.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/28/parker-will-be-a-key-figure-in-the-tampering-case-too/

I don't think the NFL has an option on how to handle it. It sounds quite clear in the NFL's Anti-Tampering policy.

"3. Contract problems or other disputes subsequently arise between the player and Club B (for example, the player's failure to report on time to Club B). In circumstances like those of the example above, tampering will be found even in the absence of a demonstrated cause-and-effect relationship between the player's contract problems and his prior involvement with the other club. In other words, a club will not be able to defend a tampering charge in these circumstances by asserting that its private contact with a player (or the player's representative) did not involve any expression of interest in the player or was not related in any way to the player's subsequent contract problem with his club."

Policy
[ Edited by D_Niner on Sep 28, 2009 at 9:54 AM ]
so when will we know the ruling??
  • kray28
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I wouldn't hold my breath or anything.
Originally posted by Juniorminime:
so when will we know the ruling??

I feel that it won't happen until the outcome has been determined. If the Niners sign him before Nov 17. It come soon after the signing. If he doesn't sign, then you could see real harsh penalties soon after the 17th. IMO
[ Edited by Giant9er on Sep 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM ]
I HATE how the media is swinging on the jets nuts. It's annoying as hell.
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