Crabtree Discussion Thread

Screw this selfish idiot. Let him enter next year's draft and lose millions when he falls to late 1st / 2nd round. Dez Walker in '10!

Originally posted by 49ERGUY:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:

Originally posted by MrOrange:
That John Clayton clone/wannabe on NFL.com said that he expects Crabtree to sign no later than week 10 when of course he would stand to lose too much if you will. I say he probably signs week 2 or 3 when he realizes he's lost close to $50,000 in game checks.

When he does sign though it'll be a little awkward for whomever ended up caving in. Someone is going to have to answer some tough questions about why he wasn't at camp when it started let alone there for the season opener.

Holding out till the first game of the preseason? I'm ok with that. There is nothing wrong with seeing how much leverage you have and what you can walk away with, but this has turned into something absurd. Lose/lose situation....moreso for Crabtree.

Do we even really want him to sign?? I know he's a talent, but so is TO and you see what he can do to a team. Plus, Singletary is a no nonsense type of guy. I'm sure he hates crabtree already.

I have never read any let me repeat that ANY of Crabtree's coaches calling him a Diva or a problem or a distraction. The only thing he has demonstrated so far is that he does think highly of his own ability and and that money is important to him much like it has been for T.O.
Why would Singletary hate Crabtree again ????? They both held out as rookies with simular thoughts of how much more they were worth than what their own teams offered them.

When he was in High School and College everyone was not a leach on him only concerned about money. I look at him 1 of 2 ways. Too gullable and is allowing other people control and potentially ruin his career. 2 Thinks he is more important than team and in which case I don't want him anyway.

Originally posted by Ether:
I had a vision.

This is all part of Scott McCloughan's genius plan...

Come March 1st, the unsigned Michael Crabtree will be traded to none other than the Oakland Raiders for their 2010 1st Round Pick. This will be the #3 pick in the draft. The Panthers crumble down the stretch, just as the Buffalo Bills did last year and go 7-9, resulting in a Top 15 pick. The 49ers "fail" to "make the playoffs" by "1 game", thus resulting in the 49ers having 3 Top 20 picks in 2010.

1a. Ndamukong Suh
1b. Jevan Snead
1c. Dez Bryant

Wow what are the chances that the 49ers could address 3 of their biggest needs in the same, all thanks to Michael Crabtree!!!

Rollin'

I was gonna say that was a homer vision but the raiders really are that stupid. Just not stupid enough to pick up crabtree this year.

Who was the last rookie WR to make a team credible? All sports analyst say the 49ers are going to suck because we dont have Crabtree. How big of a difference would he really make to the team?

Does anyone know if they are still negotiating or is he waiting for the 49ers to contact him with a new offer?

Originally posted by Native49erFan:
Screw this selfish idiot. Let him enter next year's draft and lose millions when he falls to late 1st / 2nd round. Dez Walker in '10!

Dez Walker? Who is Dez Walker?

You mean Dez Bryant...

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Native49erFan:
Screw this selfish idiot. Let him enter next year's draft and lose millions when he falls to late 1st / 2nd round. Dez Walker in '10!

Dez Walker? Who is Dez Walker?

You mean Dez Bryant...

Originally posted by 9inermaniac:
Who was the last rookie WR to make a team credible? All sports analyst say the 49ers are going to suck because we dont have Crabtree. How big of a difference would he really make to the team?

Does anyone know if they are still negotiating or is he waiting for the 49ers to contact him with a new offer?

very true. Calvin Johnson didn't make the Lions any better immediately. The only position that can turn a franchise around with a rook is QB, maybe RB.

If he doesnt sign by saturday

I wont care if the niners sign him or not.

[ Edited by ads_2006 on Sep 8, 2009 at 10:48:48 ]

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Native49erFan:
Screw this selfish idiot. Let him enter next year's draft and lose millions when he falls to late 1st / 2nd round. Dez Walker in '10!

Dez Walker? Who is Dez Walker?

You mean Dez Bryant...

This is the first pic you get when you google Dez Walker, this guy is gangster lets draft him

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Native49erFan:
Screw this selfish idiot. Let him enter next year's draft and lose millions when he falls to late 1st / 2nd round. Dez Walker in '10!

Dez Walker? Who is Dez Walker?

You mean Dez Bryant...

This is the first pic you get when you google Dez Walker, this guy is gangster lets draft him

I found this picture too...

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[ Edited by dirtysouthniner on Sep 8, 2009 at 10:52:10 ]

Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
He will sign, I have no doubt about that. The person who will push him to do it will be his agent. He has the most to lose in this situation. If Crabtree sits out the year, every other agent will let the 2010 class know how he screwed up Crabtrees career. He will have a hard time convincing any of the top talent to sign with him. Also every other team knows what is going on. They know he has been offered a fair deal. What team would want to draft a player he represents knowing that he could not deliver.

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Native49erFan:
Screw this selfish idiot. Let him enter next year's draft and lose millions when he falls to late 1st / 2nd round. Dez Walker in '10!

Dez Walker? Who is Dez Walker?

You mean Dez Bryant...

This is the first pic you get when you google Dez Walker, this guy is gangster lets draft him

I found this picture too...

Crabtree is acting like he's a free agent or something. Saying he thinks he's worth $40M. Your the 10th pick in the draft, moron, get your slotted deal and get with the program.

[ Edited by mayo63 on Sep 8, 2009 at 16:09:45 ]

Originally posted by Carney16:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Think about it: the amount of money it will take to sign this jerk would so much be better spent next year on a couple of GREAT free agents. Forget this guy. His crazy holdout is the equivlent of discovering that his forty time is really 4.75. He is flawed, he is poison. Count this a a blessing - he has revealed his destructive character to us.

There are no GREAT free agents. Teams do not let GREAT players go in free agency. You might pick up a formerly very good player who is over the hill but he is no longer GREAT. Of course that guy maybe better than your guy but he is going to run your salary cap numbers right up to the peg. That is what happened to the 49ers in the late '90s.

Albert haynesworth?

He is not a GREAT player. He is a very good player who had two good years in a system with other players around him who fit in well.

The point is, you will ALWAYS pay maximum market rate for a FA who frequently does not performance on a par with the very best players around the league who play the same position.

Does anybody think Seattle got a good value for their money with Julian Peterson? I certainly don't. In fact, he was such a disappointment up there they let him leave with little effort.

Look at Nate Clements. Has he played like the best cornerback in the league since he came here?

My point wasn't that you couldn't get a decent player through FA. Rather it was that you wind up paying top dollar for a guy who is not the best at his position. And "no," one exception every two or three years does not disprove the point. It only means that the risks are so high that it is not worth it to anyone whose last name is not Snyder or Davis.

[ Edited by dj43 on Sep 8, 2009 at 11:11:44 ]