Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
When I see you breaking down the issues then I might listen. Until then you lack the credibility to even make that judgement call.
By that I mean I've NEVER seen you lay it on the Line by breaking down the issue. If they are "Alexcuses" then explain why. If you don't KNOW why then you need to STHU. I'm tired of seeing people with no real knowledge jump on the hate wagon. It makes you look immature and unknowedgeable.
Really? I got tired of telling all of you Smith sympathizers time and time again. When will you realize he's a bust? Who's at fault today Ceader? No wonder Jimmy Raye didn't want to open up the offense.
Hill: 6 games
Smith: 2.5 games
Ummmm and Raye opened up the playbook today did he not? Alex didn't perform exceptionally well, but he wasn't the glaring inept weak armed Hill either.
And N|@@a please, I'm no Smith supporter.. You go round stating "Smith sympathizers" like pointing out the facts is akin to swingin from his man muscle.
NEWSFLASH if you were unfairly going after Hill or Nate or ANY player I will jump your case for it. Well I'm here to inject some reality into this conversation. That makes me nothing more than a 49ER sympathizer. Period.
You know the issues. I shouldn't have to point them out to you. But if I feel like I should point out when you are wrong then so f'n be it, I'll do so.
Apparently you and Steve both took alot of shots to the noodle. Steve seems to all but forgotten the crap years that he played for Tampa and you seem to dismiss that either of our HoFers ever had issues. It took them time and the SAME system to work through it.
If we all lived by your rulebook we would be two Lombardi's short of our Nickel.
Alex didn't perform exceptionally well,???????
Are you kidding me? So you're not a sympathizer but how come you don't see what everyone else saw? Smith is not ready to be the leader of this team. He is to blame for today's loss. I'm not saying Hill is the best QB but he never had games like this, win or lose.
Dude I DID see what everyone else saw. But let's be real here for a moment. He had enough positives to continue to move forward.
He hard counted the Defense Offsides on numerous occasions. The old Alex NEVER did that.
He put the ball on the numbers. The old Alex showed flashes of that but for the most part NEVER did that.
He put the ball into traffic and successfully. Again the OLD Alex would have a hard time doing so because he was leery.
He did show flashes of the old Alex today. But I imagine that is due to throwing 2 picks and a fumble early in the game and getting his @$$ handed to him by the opposing Defense. Hell that ONE play where the Defense was on him before he cleared the RB should speak volumes to how crazy bad the Line was today.
You CAN'T blame that on ANY QB. Fisher damned the torpedoes and went full steam ahead because Alex was having a pretty solid game up to that point.
Yeah yeah, "solid?", I know he had a pick. Big whup. Crabtree deflected the ball trying to make the play. Which is great an all but it was a Rookie mistake. One that Camp and Preseason probably would have negated.
It's hysterical how many people are crawling out of the woodwork wanting Smith to be benched. Nevermind that it was not all on him. I don't believe that I need to go through every bit and point out how little help Smith got from his unit today short of Crabs, Hill, Davis and Gore. Oh and Walker who I hope is not hurt seriously. We need him. I'm starting to wish that we never signed Norris back and just took the chance and converted MRob to FB. to back up Walker who I feel is better suited to be a full time FB than an HB. His skill set is alot like Rathman's when the latter played for this team.
The point is I don't HAVE to be Chicken Little here. We have enough of you as it is. I'd rather point out all the issues than leveling the finger at one person like they were solely responsible for this clustertruck.
Make a couple of nice throws here and there
Is that enough to win a game? Come on now. When the pressure is on Alex folds. That's what separated the elite QB's from the average. In Alex's case below average. I'm sorry I'm not into moral victories or have any patience left with 5 year QB. He was given a second chance and has done nothing with it. Do you even remember the last he's won a game?
I'm going to stop now. You are dead set against any positives and the negatives are so blinding to you that you can't help but keep looking at them. Which means you're nit picking to the nth degree. It's obvious that I can't have this conversation with you when you're unwilling to see the whole picture.
I do see the whole picture. As I've pointed out NUMEROUS times in this thread since the game ended.
But to be fair I'll list them off again.
OLine. This is the first order of business. They have to protect WHOEVER is back there. If they can't then it doesn't matter.
Receivers. Changes need to be made here and drastic ones it seems. Maybe Lelie is available. Who knows. All I do know is there were way too many dropped passes today. It's like Darrell Jackson infected this team with bad hands. This is akin to the N1H1 virus.
I think that if these two issues are addressed then Sullivan needs to go as well and bring someone else in that can coach a Receiver. Cause Sully sure as hell can't.
Then if we still have issues at QB we'll know for certain that Smith is not the guy and that the team did EVERYTHING to help him succeed.
You can point to 10 negative things and I can point to 10 or more positive things. Neither side proves squat other than there are more issues than just QB.
That's just reality. Not sympathy.