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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs. TENNESSEE TITANS GAMEDAY THREAD (Game 8)

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  • luv49rs
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Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

how much time do we give him though?

Rest of the season.....

And if he keeps turning the ball over, what then? How many games does that continue before he's benched?
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

how much time do we give him though?

Rest of the season.....

And if he keeps turning the ball over, what then? How many games does that continue before he's benched?

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Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
It'll be funny to see ppl who are the half full people

"ok we are only 2 games out we can do this!!!!!!!!1111"

it is much better than being pissy and miserable

Or people should stop caring? This team has been awful for too long... People should be use to this.
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Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
It'll be funny to see ppl who are the half full people

"ok we are only 2 games out we can do this!!!!!!!!1111"

it is much better than being pissy and miserable

Or people should stop caring? This team has been awful for too long... People should be use to this.

i choose to not have a negative perspective, but that's just me
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Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

how much time do we give him though?

Rest of the season.....

And if he keeps turning the ball over, what then? How many games does that continue before he's benched?

Well...I hate to throw Nate Davis out there with this O-Line.....It would just be history repeating. Come off-season's draft...O-line izza must...Safety.....then if a good one QB is available.
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Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by luv49rs:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

how much time do we give him though?

Rest of the season.....

And if he keeps turning the ball over, what then? How many games does that continue before he's benched?

Well...I hate to throw Nate Davis out there with this O-Line.....It would just be history repeating. Come off-season's draft...O-line izza must...Safety.....then if a good one QB is available.

Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
So Smith homers and Hill homers have both lost. Go figure.

Except we've actually WON with hill starting.


Really?????????????

you forget ATL/ HOU / MIN already??????????

Min was on the D...He didn't get to finish Hou and our only WINS this year were with Hill under center.

excuses...........

Wins are not excuses...losses are


Is Hill undefeated?????????????????



fool

Has Smith won a SINGLE Game?????????/


LOL... Not in a couple of years.

He didn't play last year?

That makes him an Injury prone loser...people I think we have the Jonas Jennings of QB's in Alex Smith...the money wasted was just a bonus....

That was from one injury on his arm. Jesus. Fault him for today not stupid crap.

By your analysis Montana was an injury prone QB as well.

By your analysis Alex is >>>> then Joe Montana... Time to start seeing this kid for what he is.

Ummmmmmm DUDE??? Did you NOT see Alex Roll out under pressure and deliver it to Hill in the End Zone?

I'm not saying that Smith is another Montana but what he did sent chills up and down my spine. I had the fortune of seeing that in the NFC Championship game. This one wasn't as important but none the less Smith looked eerily similar for once.

Now if we could just get him some F'N protection and at least two Receivers that can contribute in a positive manner, I think that Smith is serviceable as the Starter.

But hey let's go with your philosophy. Cut the team and start over. Oh wait. Let's cut Smith and start over since it's all his fault.

I do however want him to own this. Because at least it will show the team that he's the guy that will take the heat for them. And enough of that will get them to accept their parts in the responsibility.

~Ceadder
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Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
So Smith homers and Hill homers have both lost. Go figure.

Except we've actually WON with hill starting.


Really?????????????

you forget ATL/ HOU / MIN already??????????

Min was on the D...He didn't get to finish Hou and our only WINS this year were with Hill under center.

excuses...........

Wins are not excuses...losses are


Is Hill undefeated?????????????????



fool

Has Smith won a SINGLE Game?????????/


LOL... Not in a couple of years.

He didn't play last year?

That makes him an Injury prone loser...people I think we have the Jonas Jennings of QB's in Alex Smith...the money wasted was just a bonus....

That was from one injury on his arm. Jesus. Fault him for today not stupid crap.

By your analysis Montana was an injury prone QB as well.

By your analysis Alex is >>>> then Joe Montana... Time to start seeing this kid for what he is.

Ummmmmmm DUDE??? Did you NOT see Alex Roll out under pressure and deliver it to Hill in the End Zone?

I'm not saying that Smith is another Montana but what he did sent chills up and down my spine. I had the fortune of seeing that in the NFC Championship game. This one wasn't as important but none the less Smith looked eerily similar for once.

Now if we could just get him some F'N protection and at least two Receivers that can contribute in a positive manner, I think that Smith is serviceable as the Starter.

But hey let's go with your philosophy. Cut the team and start over. Oh wait. Let's cut Smith and start over since it's all his fault.

I do however want him to own this. Because at least it will show the team that he's the guy that will take the heat for them. And enough of that will get them to accept their parts in the responsibility.

~Ceadder

Ceadder....Alex Played well - No Doubt....But he need to be held accountable for his mistakes.
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Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
So Smith homers and Hill homers have both lost. Go figure.

Except we've actually WON with hill starting.


Really?????????????

you forget ATL/ HOU / MIN already??????????

Min was on the D...He didn't get to finish Hou and our only WINS this year were with Hill under center.

excuses...........

Wins are not excuses...losses are


Is Hill undefeated?????????????????



fool

Has Smith won a SINGLE Game?????????/


LOL... Not in a couple of years.

He didn't play last year?

That makes him an Injury prone loser...people I think we have the Jonas Jennings of QB's in Alex Smith...the money wasted was just a bonus....

That was from one injury on his arm. Jesus. Fault him for today not stupid crap.

By your analysis Montana was an injury prone QB as well.

By your analysis Alex is >>>> then Joe Montana... Time to start seeing this kid for what he is.

Ummmmmmm DUDE??? Did you NOT see Alex Roll out under pressure and deliver it to Hill in the End Zone?

I'm not saying that Smith is another Montana but what he did sent chills up and down my spine. I had the fortune of seeing that in the NFC Championship game. This one wasn't as important but none the less Smith looked eerily similar for once.

Now if we could just get him some F'N protection and at least two Receivers that can contribute in a positive manner, I think that Smith is serviceable as the Starter.

But hey let's go with your philosophy. Cut the team and start over. Oh wait. Let's cut Smith and start over since it's all his fault.

I do however want him to own this. Because at least it will show the team that he's the guy that will take the heat for them. And enough of that will get them to accept their parts in the responsibility.

~Ceadder


No offense, bro, but you're full of it. "Chills up and down your spine" ? "Serviceable if we could get him TWO RECEIVERS AND PROTECTION" ? Seriously........enough is enough. The guy tanked against the worst defense in the NFL. Forget everything. Lets, for one second, pretend the entire game except the last 2 drives didnt happen. Did you not see him choke when he had the opportunity to shine....TWICE ? Did you ignore the commentator, who happened to be a SB starting quarterback, hash Smith and clearly state that the guy stares down his receivers and makes late throws ?

I mean......I know some of you guys are latched on to Smith, but please get real.
Alexcuses
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by ginseng1000:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by ginseng1000:
lets give ALex Smith a few more games...

then we'll know for sure about Smith..

this always cracks me up....God knows how many times I have heard this.

i guess what i'm saying is...if we end up loosing more games with Smith...then lets start developing Nate Davis...But let Alex play out a few more games..IMHO

so you want to ride or die with Alex...I understand... I posted about this earlier today....but I'm also a Niner fan....and I think we can still make the playoffs....so I want to see what Hill can do, if he can keep us in games......

the thing is Alex was playing at home against a struggling defense and had 3ints and 2 fumbles.... I wasn't expecting this AT ALL in this game....but am not surprised, I've seen this before.....

so I'd go with Shaun....see if the o'l dink and dunk...mixed in with what we saw today (I actually like the game Raye called for once....the flow of the game seemed different)......and go from there.

like Singletary said.... we are not a charity.....we can't have turnovers like this....we won't get anywhere....

now if Shaun comes in and can't sustain drives....those can also be considered turnovers...then we should go to Nate Davis......but I still feel we can win some games and make a push at the playoffs....

Afrikan, BRUH, did you NOT see the Atlanta game?

Did you NOT see Smith keep us IN the Colts game?

Did you NOT see the Houston v. Colts score?

What gives you ANY indication that Hill can even keep up against solid teams like that?


Nevermind that we lost. But today we had a couple things go completely against us that were beyond our control. Take into account that we lost to a solid Playoff team from last year that is decimated by injuries just like we are. Staley is on the Line and Snyder would not have been on the field. I honestly think that Sims held his own today. So when Joe gets back I think that he should be the RT for the rest of the season and Jed needs to get another GM who understands that the Line is the most important unit and is not afraid to pay them a solid amount.

Why do we get the $h|TTiE$t OL personnel each and every season. I'm stymied at the ineptness that starts with the GM. This can't be possible. And yet we see it year in and year out.

~Ceadder

Shaun helped beat the Cards at Arizona.....when Gore was getting stuffed all game...they finally let him pass...and he drove down field and scored...

he did the same against the Vikes at Minnisota....he drove us down field and threw what we all thought was the winning TD....but we lost on a 50 yard bomb from Favre with 12 secs...

so you have the undefeated Vikes and the 1st place Cards....I consider those teams solid.....and Hill did his part in beating teams we are suppose to beat, against the Rams....and the Seahawks who are playing better now....

as far as the Colts game Ceadder....Alex also threw a costly INT....and almost threw another one that was dropped.

I expected him to do well today against the Titans at home......but 3ints and 2 fumbles?....that is not going to cut it.... Alex has thrown an INT in all his games this year..

And after seeing this game Shaun would get his @zz kicked by the Cards at the Stick. We caught the Cards at the right time.

That pick in Indy? Batted up.

Pretty much ALL his picks have been deflections this year. I say he should own it but that don't mean that it's true. C'mon man he's thrown ONE true INT all season.

I would much rather have Smith under Center than Mr. 3 an out Shaun Hill.

BTW if Hill was indeed "celebrating" after that game then he needs to be CUT. There are plenty of scrubs on the waiver wire, that I'm pretty sure won't celebrate after a loss.

When my team lost you could NEVER say that I didn't take it as hard as the rest of my teammates even when I did not play that day. It's no wonder this team is stuck in this mode. There has to be an "example" player. If he can't be the team leader that he was purported to have been then he needs to be the guy that is straight up cut outright.

And please everyone spare me the "we have no experience behind Alex" sob story.

It's time to take drastic action or Sing will lose what little credibility he has with the core players. You can only drop Trou so many times. Sing's used his time up already. Now it's time to do what Bill Walsh would do. Have the guy's locker boxed up and dropped in front of his feet. Sorry but we don't need ya if you're in a celebrating mood after a Loss. No matter how important you are to us.

~Ceadder
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by Ceadderman:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by taney71:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Super5:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
So Smith homers and Hill homers have both lost. Go figure.

Except we've actually WON with hill starting.


Really?????????????

you forget ATL/ HOU / MIN already??????????

Min was on the D...He didn't get to finish Hou and our only WINS this year were with Hill under center.

excuses...........

Wins are not excuses...losses are


Is Hill undefeated?????????????????



fool

Has Smith won a SINGLE Game?????????/


LOL... Not in a couple of years.

He didn't play last year?

That makes him an Injury prone loser...people I think we have the Jonas Jennings of QB's in Alex Smith...the money wasted was just a bonus....

That was from one injury on his arm. Jesus. Fault him for today not stupid crap.

By your analysis Montana was an injury prone QB as well.

By your analysis Alex is >>>> then Joe Montana... Time to start seeing this kid for what he is.

Ummmmmmm DUDE??? Did you NOT see Alex Roll out under pressure and deliver it to Hill in the End Zone?

I'm not saying that Smith is another Montana but what he did sent chills up and down my spine. I had the fortune of seeing that in the NFC Championship game. This one wasn't as important but none the less Smith looked eerily similar for once.

Now if we could just get him some F'N protection and at least two Receivers that can contribute in a positive manner, I think that Smith is serviceable as the Starter.

But hey let's go with your philosophy. Cut the team and start over. Oh wait. Let's cut Smith and start over since it's all his fault.

I do however want him to own this. Because at least it will show the team that he's the guy that will take the heat for them. And enough of that will get them to accept their parts in the responsibility.

~Ceadder


No offense, bro, but you're full of it. "Chills up and down your spine" ? "Serviceable if we could get him TWO RECEIVERS AND PROTECTION" ? Seriously........enough is enough. The guy tanked against the worst defense in the NFL. Forget everything. Lets, for one second, pretend the entire game except the last 2 drives didnt happen. Did you not see him choke when he had the opportunity to shine....TWICE ? Did you ignore the commentator, who happened to be a SB starting quarterback, hash Smith and clearly state that the guy stares down his receivers and makes late throws ?

I mean......I know some of you guys are latched on to Smith, but please get real.

What a loser!
You know what's worse than a niner loss? Listening to Willie Brown afterwards.
3 of Smiths 5 ints are tipped. Wow. We never catch a break do we.
Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:
Alexcuses

When I see you breaking down the issues then I might listen. Until then you lack the credibility to even make that judgement call.

By that I mean I've NEVER seen you lay it on the Line by breaking down the issue. If they are "Alexcuses" then explain why. If you don't KNOW why then you need to STHU. I'm tired of seeing people with no real knowledge jump on the hate wagon. It makes you look immature and unknowedgeable.

Peace.

~Ceadder
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