SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs. TENNESSEE TITANS GAMEDAY THREAD (Game 8)

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:
lets give ALex Smith a few more games...

then we'll know for sure about Smith..

this always cracks me up....God knows how many times I have heard this.

i guess what i'm saying is...if we end up loosing more games with Smith...then lets start developing Nate Davis...But let Alex play out a few more games..IMHO

so you want to ride or die with Alex...I understand... I posted about this earlier today....but I'm also a Niner fan....and I think we can still make the playoffs....so I want to see what Hill can do, if he can keep us in games......

the thing is Alex was playing at home against a struggling defense and had 3ints and 2 fumbles.... I wasn't expecting this AT ALL in this game....but am not surprised, I've seen this before.....

so I'd go with Shaun....see if the o'l dink and dunk...mixed in with what we saw today (I actually like the game Raye called for once....the flow of the game seemed different)......and go from there.

like Singletary said.... we are not a charity.....we can't have turnovers like this....we won't get anywhere....

now if Shaun comes in and can't sustain drives....those can also be considered turnovers...then we should go to Nate Davis......but I still feel we can win some games and make a push at the playoffs....

Afrikan, BRUH, did you NOT see the Atlanta game?

Did you NOT see Smith keep us IN the Colts game?

Did you NOT see the Houston v. Colts score?

What gives you ANY indication that Hill can even keep up against solid teams like that?

Nevermind that we lost. But today we had a couple things go completely against us that were beyond our control. Take into account that we lost to a solid Playoff team from last year that is decimated by injuries just like we are. Staley is on the Line and Snyder would not have been on the field. I honestly think that Sims held his own today. So when Joe gets back I think that he should be the RT for the rest of the season and Jed needs to get another GM who understands that the Line is the most important unit and is not afraid to pay them a solid amount.

Why do we get the $h|TTiE$t OL personnel each and every season. I'm stymied at the ineptness that starts with the GM. This can't be possible. And yet we see it year in and year out.

~Ceadder

Did you see the Vikings game??

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Sing looks like he's ready to cry in post game. I feel bad for him. I wish his players all had the heart he does.

I don't, it's his job.

He's still answering questions though despite how crappy he must feel.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

this

In my mind, the worst part of the game was the pass defense. How many bombs by Vince Young can we afford to give up? Pathetic.

Originally posted by 49ersking:
We are done with Smith, OLINE, OC, GM, all coaches. We scored a TD in garbage time, I'm sure Alex will win us some games in Dec when no one really cares.
In short, I'm tired.

So Garbage time has been rescheduled to the first half now? Just to clarify your thought.

That's it fire the entire staff 49ersking has the answers and knows the game. Hire him right away Jed we need someone of his experience. Boy I just KNEW that Madden game was going to be someone's big break into the NFL.

49erk I wanna have your puppies.

~Ceadder

Boy, Sing is p***ed.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by blunt_probe:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Sing looks like he's ready to cry in post game. I feel bad for him. I wish his players all had the heart he does.

I don't, it's his job.

He's still answering questions though despite how crappy he must feel.

Again, it's his job.

hill can't drive us down the field, smith can but he turns the ball over too much

either way we lose!

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:
lets give ALex Smith a few more games...

then we'll know for sure about Smith..

this always cracks me up....God knows how many times I have heard this.

i guess what i'm saying is...if we end up loosing more games with Smith...then lets start developing Nate Davis...But let Alex play out a few more games..IMHO

so you want to ride or die with Alex...I understand... I posted about this earlier today....but I'm also a Niner fan....and I think we can still make the playoffs....so I want to see what Hill can do, if he can keep us in games......

the thing is Alex was playing at home against a struggling defense and had 3ints and 2 fumbles.... I wasn't expecting this AT ALL in this game....but am not surprised, I've seen this before.....

so I'd go with Shaun....see if the o'l dink and dunk...mixed in with what we saw today (I actually like the game Raye called for once....the flow of the game seemed different)......and go from there.

like Singletary said.... we are not a charity.....we can't have turnovers like this....we won't get anywhere....

now if Shaun comes in and can't sustain drives....those can also be considered turnovers...then we should go to Nate Davis......but I still feel we can win some games and make a push at the playoffs....

Afrikan, BRUH, did you NOT see the Atlanta game?

Did you NOT see Smith keep us IN the Colts game?

Did you NOT see the Houston v. Colts score?

What gives you ANY indication that Hill can even keep up against solid teams like that?

Nevermind that we lost. But today we had a couple things go completely against us that were beyond our control. Take into account that we lost to a solid Playoff team from last year that is decimated by injuries just like we are. Staley is on the Line and Snyder would not have been on the field. I honestly think that Sims held his own today. So when Joe gets back I think that he should be the RT for the rest of the season and Jed needs to get another GM who understands that the Line is the most important unit and is not afraid to pay them a solid amount.

Why do we get the $h|TTiE$t OL personnel each and every season. I'm stymied at the ineptness that starts with the GM. This can't be possible. And yet we see it year in and year out.

~Ceadder

Did you see the Vikings game??

Touche, however Favre was still getting used to playing. He missed all of Camp after all. He was still knocking the rust off. Case in point Viqueens v. Packers. Those games were pretty solid in comparison to our matchup. They relied more on Peterson than Fabre.

~Ceadder

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

It'll be funny to see ppl who are the half full people

"ok we are only 2 games out we can do this!!!!!!!!1111"

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

how much time do we give him though?

Originally posted by socalfan21:
It'll be funny to see ppl who are the half full people

"ok we are only 2 games out we can do this!!!!!!!!1111"

it is much better than being pissy and miserable

Originally posted by Ceadderman:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by ginseng1000:
lets give ALex Smith a few more games...

then we'll know for sure about Smith..

this always cracks me up....God knows how many times I have heard this.

i guess what i'm saying is...if we end up loosing more games with Smith...then lets start developing Nate Davis...But let Alex play out a few more games..IMHO

so you want to ride or die with Alex...I understand... I posted about this earlier today....but I'm also a Niner fan....and I think we can still make the playoffs....so I want to see what Hill can do, if he can keep us in games......

the thing is Alex was playing at home against a struggling defense and had 3ints and 2 fumbles.... I wasn't expecting this AT ALL in this game....but am not surprised, I've seen this before.....

so I'd go with Shaun....see if the o'l dink and dunk...mixed in with what we saw today (I actually like the game Raye called for once....the flow of the game seemed different)......and go from there.

like Singletary said.... we are not a charity.....we can't have turnovers like this....we won't get anywhere....

now if Shaun comes in and can't sustain drives....those can also be considered turnovers...then we should go to Nate Davis......but I still feel we can win some games and make a push at the playoffs....

Afrikan, BRUH, did you NOT see the Atlanta game?

Did you NOT see Smith keep us IN the Colts game?

Did you NOT see the Houston v. Colts score?

What gives you ANY indication that Hill can even keep up against solid teams like that?

Nevermind that we lost. But today we had a couple things go completely against us that were beyond our control. Take into account that we lost to a solid Playoff team from last year that is decimated by injuries just like we are. Staley is on the Line and Snyder would not have been on the field. I honestly think that Sims held his own today. So when Joe gets back I think that he should be the RT for the rest of the season and Jed needs to get another GM who understands that the Line is the most important unit and is not afraid to pay them a solid amount.

Why do we get the $h|TTiE$t OL personnel each and every season. I'm stymied at the ineptness that starts with the GM. This can't be possible. And yet we see it year in and year out.

~Ceadder

Shaun helped beat the Cards at Arizona.....when Gore was getting stuffed all game...they finally let him pass...and he drove down field and scored...

he did the same against the Vikes at Minnisota....he drove us down field and threw what we all thought was the winning TD....but we lost on a 50 yard bomb from Favre with 12 secs...

so you have the undefeated Vikes and the 1st place Cards....I consider those teams solid.....and Hill did his part in beating teams we are suppose to beat, against the Rams....and the Seahawks who are playing better now....

as far as the Colts game Ceadder....Alex also threw a costly INT....and almost threw another one that was dropped.

I expected him to do well today against the Titans at home......but 3ints and 2 fumbles?....that is not going to cut it.... Alex has thrown an INT in all his games this year..

[ Edited by Afrikan on Nov 8, 2009 at 17:08:08 ]

Originally posted by luv49rs:

Originally posted by Nes49:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Nes49:
Again...This ISN'T ALL ON ALEX SMITH But if he truly believes he can be our future...he needs to man up & claim responsiblity for his mistakes, just as Josh with his & O-line with theirs.

he has had +4 years to do that.

still havent seen it.

Yeah....4+ years of OCs.....Bad O-LINE play....2 surgeries....Crown....NO DOUBT Alex Smith has IMPROVED...but how good he can become is up to him.

how much time do we give him though?

Rest of the season.....