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When will Michael Crabtree be signed?

When will Michael Crabtree be signed?

Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by PatrickJira411:
Mort mentioned something interesting, Kelly Stoufer was holding out when he was drafted by Ariz and was going to re-enter the draft but just before the season was over they traded him to Seattle.

We could really f*&^ Crabtree if he doesen't sign by the trading deadline we could trade him for a 2nd or 3rd rd pick and really hurt his value.

We can really do that to him?

why not.

Doesn't he have to be signed by the 49ers before we can trade him?

We own his rights up until draft day 2010.

exactly Dallas bought the rights to a player once. Can't remember who it was though. Someone mentioned it in another thread

Drew Henson I think, and they drafted the rights i thought
If this loser ever signs he needs to hear some serious boo's in training camp.
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Another reason I don't like the guy, he hit on my wife while I was walking past the Forbes Mill Steakhouse in Los Gatos, with 2 year old son in a stroller!! C'mon dude, you just came from Texas, where the scenery doesn't get any better and your hitting on a 40 something mother taking a stroll with her husband?? Idiot. I guess I am a little flattered my wife was worthy.



Originally posted by skibeerski:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Let that stupid idiot sit the year out and get less money next year. I don't want that diva on my team anyway. Every year there's a diva in the draft that holds-out because they think they're worth more, without playing a single damn down in the NFL, and they usually turn out to be worth less. Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow and JaMarcus Russel come to mind.

I wouldn't say they are worthless. Both can be playmakers but tend to have more downside than up.

Not worthess, but I would not want either one of them.

They're not worthless, but certainly not worth what they were holding out for.


I agree.
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Let that stupid idiot sit the year out and get less money next year. I don't want that diva on my team anyway. Every year there's a diva in the draft that holds-out because they think they're worth more, without playing a single damn down in the NFL, and they usually turn out to be worth less. Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow and JaMarcus Russel come to mind.

I wouldn't say they are worthless. Both can be playmakers but tend to have more downside than up.

Not worthess, but I would not want either one of them.

They're not worthless, but certainly not worth what they were holding out for.


I agree.
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Let that stupid idiot sit the year out and get less money next year. I don't want that diva on my team anyway. Every year there's a diva in the draft that holds-out because they think they're worth more, without playing a single damn down in the NFL, and they usually turn out to be worth less. Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow and JaMarcus Russel come to mind.

I wouldn't say they are worthless. Both can be playmakers but tend to have more downside than up.

Not worthess, but I would not want either one of them.

They're not worthless, but certainly not worth what they were holding out for.


I agree.
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Let that stupid idiot sit the year out and get less money next year. I don't want that diva on my team anyway. Every year there's a diva in the draft that holds-out because they think they're worth more, without playing a single damn down in the NFL, and they usually turn out to be worth less. Braylon Edwards, Kellen Winslow and JaMarcus Russel come to mind.

I wouldn't say they are worthless. Both can be playmakers but tend to have more downside than up.

Not worthess, but I would not want either one of them.

They're not worthless, but certainly not worth what they were holding out for.


I agree.
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Another reason I don't like the guy, he hit on my wife while I was walking past the Forbes Mill Steakhouse in Los Gatos, with 2 year old son in a stroller!! C'mon dude, you just came from Texas, where the scenery doesn't get any better and your hitting on a 40 something mother taking a stroll with her husband?? Idiot. I guess I am a little flattered my wife was worthy.




I'm not lying. His black Chevy Tahoe with 22" wheels was out front. Instead of the Tahoe label on the side it said CRAB5 in chrome. Pretty sweet ride. He was with a friend peaking under the blind for chicks on the patio when we came back. Believe me, my wife hasn't stopped talking about it since.
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
Originally posted by skibeerski:
Another reason I don't like the guy, he hit on my wife while I was walking past the Forbes Mill Steakhouse in Los Gatos, with 2 year old son in a stroller!! C'mon dude, you just came from Texas, where the scenery doesn't get any better and your hitting on a 40 something mother taking a stroll with her husband?? Idiot. I guess I am a little flattered my wife was worthy.




I'm not lying. His black Chevy Tahoe with 22" wheels was out front. Instead of the Tahoe label on the side it said CRAB5 in chrome. Pretty sweet ride. He was with a friend peaking under the blind for chicks on the patio when we came back. Believe me, my wife hasn't stopped talking about it since.

maybe she has a case of Crabs?
This Crabtree guy...he's such a bad guy. I mean, he robbed three old ladies last night while they were on their electric scooters. He then ran over a group of Mormons riding bicycles and laughed about it. On his way home, he threw a pipe bomb into the post office, and then drunkenly jumped up and down on his neighbor's car (OOPS! Wrong 49er. My bad.).
This is one bad, bad guy, that Michael Crabtree. He's evil.

Have 99.99% of the board lost their mind. THIS IS A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION!!!!!! What is so hard to understand? He's not out there shooting baby seals, dumping toxic waste into riverbeds (at least we hope not). His agent is negotiating a contract. And Crabtree has not stated one word. People are starting to compare him to T.O., who runs to every camera with his sad story. Where are all the Crabtree interviews, where he is angry, crying, complaining? There are none.

Has Crabtree come forward to state anything? No. Has his agent come forward to state that they are threatening to have him return to the draft? No. Have the Niners come forward to say that he is threatening to re-enter the draft? No. In fact, the only person is a cousin. We don't know if Crabtree gave authorization for the cousin to speak out. Maybe he and Crabtree were having a conversation about the matter, and Crabtree had no idea that his cousin would speak out.

In other words, WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!!! So, it would probably be wise to withhold judgment. Unless we hear word that Crabtree authorized his cousin to say something, or Crabtree or his agent talk with the media, then we don't know.

Jumping to conclusions usually gets one in trouble. Along with millions of Americans today, I automatically bought the incorrect ProFootballTalk.com story that PARKER had threatened to have Crabtree re-enter the draft. It has since been debunked by Parker, the Niners, and veteran reporters who have covered Parker for years. He doesn't operate that way is what Len Pastabelli, John Clayton and others have stated.

As for the sanctity of the slotting system....This is the biggest piece of sloppy journalism that I've heard all day, some from people who should know better. Where are the angry voices over the "incorrect/out of the slot" compensation for Sanchez, Freeman, Darrelle Revis, Larry Fitzgerald (he received more money under Parker than the number two and number one pick, Eli Manning in his contract). HOW DARE THE AGENT DEMAND MORE THAN HIS SLOTTED AMOUNT!!!! There are numerous examples in this draft of "incorrect slotting", and if you look at the 2007 draft, then you have pure heresy. I can't believe the NFL still exists after those "slotted" contracts.

The bottom line is that there are circumstances which cause the slotting to not be so pefectly systematic. Does the sun still rise, the world still rotate? Yes.

Quick, show some outrage over the Sanchez contract!! ARGH!!! IT IS GOING TO RUIN FOOTBALL!!!

The bottom line is that both sides are in a contract negotiation. This is not the Palestinian Arabs versus the Israeli Jews. This is not the Shia versus the Sunni. It is a contract negotiation.

I encourage members on this board to reject the easy to come by snap judgment, based on emotion, and to read the CBA, research the history of draft slotting, research the history of Eugene Parker, and then come to some rational conclusion. To simply become emotional...is mindless. And the board deserves more than mindless, emotional drivel.

I have copied and pasted this to every beat writer in America, and you may now feel free to report me to the Obama Administration, care of the Misinformation Ministry.

Cheers.

P.S. Have I mentioned that this is a contract negotiation?


[ Edited by MadDog49er on Aug 6, 2009 at 16:01:26 ]


[ Edited by MadDog49er on Aug 6, 2009 at 16:00:34 ]
i need to vent cause crabtree is such a little b***h f**k him he was chosen with the 10th pick!! not the 2nd or 3rd but 10th!!! so he needs to shut the f**k up wit his agent and accept whats right he is such a f**kin diva iam no longer a crabtree fan
He shall henceforth be dubbed (pun intended)

Micash Moneytree


I was standing in line at SPCA (to adopt a dog) and he pushed an old lady out of the way so he could step on a puppy
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
This Crabtree guy...he's such a bad guy. I mean, he robbed three old ladies last night while they were on their electric scooters. He then ran over a group of Mormons riding bicycles and laughed about it. On his way home, he threw a pipe bomb into the post office, and then drunkenly jumped up and down on his neighbor's car (OOPS! Wrong 49er. My bad.).
This is one bad, bad guy, that Michael Crabtree. He's evil.

Have 99.99% of the board lost their mind. THIS IS A CONTRACT NEGOTIATION!!!!!! What is so hard to understand? He's not out there shooting baby seals, dumping toxic waste into riverbeds (at least we hope not). His agent is negotiating a contract. And Crabtree has not stated one word. People are starting to compare him to T.O., who runs to every camera with his sad story. Where are all the Crabtree interviews, where he is angry, crying, complaining? There are none.

Has Crabtree come forward to state anything? No. Has his agent come forward to state that they are threatening to have him return to the draft? No. Have the Niners come forward to say that he is threatening to re-enter the draft? No. In fact, the only person is a cousin. We don't know if Crabtree gave authorization for the cousin to speak out. Maybe he and Crabtree were having a conversation about the matter, and Crabtree had no idea that his cousin would speak out.

In other words, WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!!! So, it would probably be wise to withhold judgment. Unless we hear word that Crabtree authorized his cousin to say something, or Crabtree or his agent talk with the media, then we don't know.

Jumping to conclusions usually gets one in trouble. Along with millions of Americans today, I automatically bought the incorrect ProFootballTalk.com story that PARKER had threatened to have Crabtree re-enter the draft. It has since been debunked by Parker, the Niners, and veteran reporters who have covered Parker for years. He doesn't operate that way is what Len Pastabelli, John Clayton and others have stated.

As for the sanctity of the slotting system....This is the biggest piece of sloppy journalism that I've heard all day, some from people who should know better. Where are the angry voices over the "incorrect/out of the slot" compensation for Sanchez, Freeman, Darrelle Revis, Larry Fitzgerald (he received more money under Parker than the number two and number one pick, Eli Manning in his contract). HOW DARE THE AGENT DEMAND MORE THAN HIS SLOTTED AMOUNT!!!! There are numerous examples in this draft of "incorrect slotting", and if you look at the 2007 draft, then you have pure heresy. I can't believe the NFL still exists after those "slotted" contracts.

The bottom line is that there are circumstances which cause the slotting to not be so pefectly systematic. Does the sun still rise, the world still rotate? Yes.

Quick, show some outrage over the Sanchez contract!! ARGH!!! IT IS GOING TO RUIN FOOTBALL!!!

The bottom line is that both sides are in a contract negotiation. This is not the Palestinian Arabs versus the Israeli Jews. This is not the Shia versus the Sunni. It is a contract negotiation.

I encourage members on this board to reject the easy to come by snap judgment, based on emotion, and to read the CBA, research the history of draft slotting, research the history of Eugene Parker, and then come to some rational conclusion. To simply become emotional...is mindless. And the board deserves more than mindless, emotional drivel.

I have copied and pasted this to every beat writer in America, and you may now feel free to report me to the Obama Administration, care of the Misinformation Ministry.

Cheers.

P.S. Have I mentioned that this is a contract negotiation?

demanding to get more money than you were picked at isn't a negotiation. Threatening to hold out and re-enter the draft isn't a negotiation. What he is doing is having a full blown temper tantrum like a 3 year old kid who didn't get to buy the spiderman toy at walmart that he wanted. He wants #1 money because HE feels that he is worth that money. Well hell I think I am worth #1 money as well and there is no way in hell I would even make it on a college team let alone an NFL team. He just needs to stop being such a damn whiner and sign seems how he says his NFL career is the most important thing to him at this moment and that he promised MS that he wouldn't miss a day of training camp. So lets see so far he has proved to be a "diva", a liar and a potential locker room distraction.


PS did I mention that this is not a contract negotiation