Is Battle really worth a roster spot at this point?

Yes... when we run the ball. Nothing like a good blocker.

If we draft a receiver, cut him. If not, keep him. Simple as that. He provides solid depth.

Wow, shocker!!! Another Battle-bashing post. Original. Genius. Creative. Can't wait for the next one. Went through withdrawals after the 3,476th anti-Battle posts was written a few weeks ago. Just needed another to get through the day. Thanks.

For the record, Battle led the team in receptions through Week 8, even though he was a backup.

But, who needs to keep their leading receiver, and best blocking WR? Very overrated.

P.S. It may extremely difficult for some to comprehend, and some who live in a fantasy world refuse to embrace, but Battle played every game in 2006, every game in 2007 and played the first half of 2008. That would be at least 40+ consecutive games, for those of you playing at home. Can we end the urban legend that he is "always hurt"? A consecutive streak of 40+ games is "always hurt". Now, that is legendary brilliance. Only the true genius of many Webzone members could cultivate and buy this turdish argumentation. 2006 and 2007, and the first half of 2008 never happened. A miracle!!! Congratulations, Club Mensa!!!!

Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually write an accurate and fair post on Battle someday. Until then, lunacy will continue to reign.

P.S. "Now, MadDog, you are being mean again. You think you are so smart, and look down on us. How dare you?" Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And......Eric Heitmann is still a good football player.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Wow, shocker!!! Another Battle-bashing post. Original. Genius. Creative. Can't wait for the next one. Went through withdrawals after the 3,476th anti-Battle posts was written a few weeks ago. Just needed another to get through the day. Thanks.

For the record, Battle led the team in receptions through Week 8, even though he was a backup.

But, who needs to keep their leading receiver, and best blocking WR? Very overrated.

P.S. It may extremely difficult for some to comprehend, and some who live in a fantasy world refuse to embrace, but Battle played every game in 2006, every game in 2007 and played the first half of 2008. That would be at least 40+ consecutive games, for those of you playing at home. Can we end the urban legend that he is "always hurt"? A consecutive streak of 40+ games is "always hurt". Now, that is legendary brilliance. Only the true genius of many Webzone members could cultivate and buy this turdish argumentation. 2006 and 2007, and the first half of 2008 never happened. A miracle!!! Congratulations, Club Mensa!!!!

Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually write an accurate and fair post on Battle someday. Until then, lunacy will continue to reign.

P.S. "Now, MadDog, you are being mean again. You think you are so smart, and look down on us. How dare you?" Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And......Eric Heitmann is still a good football player.

I was wondering when, and if, you were going to show up and join those of us who have been posting in support of Battle in this thread. There are several of us, but we appear to be in the minority in this thread, (which probably does not reflect the consensus of the entire zone about Battle).

However, I've got to say, the tone of your post does not appear to be very helpful to those of us who have tried to support and defend Battle in this thread.

Angrily ranting insults at those who dare to express a negative opinion about Battle at this stage of his career seems unlikely to change anyone's mind about him. Nor does it allow the more factual, and reasonable parts of your argument in favor of Battle to appear in their most persuasive light.

P.S. Its surprising that someone who taught psychology at the college level wouldn't realize this.

Sorry to be the one to point this out to you, MadDog, but many of us expect more of you.

The MadDog who posts reasonable, factual threads with topics that are timely and insightful, without a negative word about anyone, (even with a touch of sarcasm occasionally), is far more respected and persuasive than the foaming at the mouth MadDog who rants and hurls insults at the "lunacy" he finds posted everywhere. IMHO.

Originally posted by oldninerdude:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Wow, shocker!!! Another Battle-bashing post. Original. Genius. Creative. Can't wait for the next one. Went through withdrawals after the 3,476th anti-Battle posts was written a few weeks ago. Just needed another to get through the day. Thanks.

For the record, Battle led the team in receptions through Week 8, even though he was a backup.

But, who needs to keep their leading receiver, and best blocking WR? Very overrated.

P.S. It may extremely difficult for some to comprehend, and some who live in a fantasy world refuse to embrace, but Battle played every game in 2006, every game in 2007 and played the first half of 2008. That would be at least 40+ consecutive games, for those of you playing at home. Can we end the urban legend that he is "always hurt"? A consecutive streak of 40+ games is "always hurt". Now, that is legendary brilliance. Only the true genius of many Webzone members could cultivate and buy this turdish argumentation. 2006 and 2007, and the first half of 2008 never happened. A miracle!!! Congratulations, Club Mensa!!!!

Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually write an accurate and fair post on Battle someday. Until then, lunacy will continue to reign.

P.S. "Now, MadDog, you are being mean again. You think you are so smart, and look down on us. How dare you?" Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And......Eric Heitmann is still a good football player.

I was wondering when, and if, you were going to show up and join those of us who have been posting in support of Battle in this thread. There are several of us, but we appear to be in the minority in this thread, (which probably does not reflect the consensus of the entire zone about Battle).

However, I've got to say, the tone of your post does not appear to be very helpful to those of us who have tried to support and defend Battle in this thread.

Angrily ranting insults at those who dare to express a negative opinion about Battle at this stage of his career seems unlikely to change anyone's mind about him. Nor does it allow the more factual, and reasonable parts of your argument in favor of Battle to appear in their most persuasive light.

P.S. Its surprising that someone who taught psychology at the college level wouldn't realize this.

My tone is intended to whack the same mindless people who continuously infiltrate the board, spewing all kinds of misinformation, especially against players who have been classy performers for our team.

Any two-bit moron (some would say I qualify for this title) can go to NFL.com, type in Arnaz Battle, and review his playing career. And yet, this "always injured" statement emerges almost every other week, on a new and stale anti-Battle rant.

Haven't we been on this path.....for about the 1000th time. Every offseason, Battle is the pariah of this team, the guy we should cut. And every year, he goes out there and outperforms the trail of WR carcasses we've had on this team: Bryant, Jackson, Lelie, Johnson. And, yet, as soon as a new year emerges, here comes the same warn out, beat up argument. Let's dump him again. Surely someone remembers the Lelie-Battle arguments on this board in both 2007 and 2008.

Did any of these anti-Battle people who write these anti-Battle threads even watch the first half of 2008. Did they watch the games in 2007 and 2006? I think a profound whacking is fair game. And justly deserved. I will not coddle ignorance and prejudice. Do I sound like Dr. King at this point....

When will people learn, Arnaz Battle is a cockroach in a nuclear holocaust. It will not die.

Thanks for your kind comments, but you have to remember that my monicker is MadDog, not PlayfulPup. And, you will notice that I am much more pleasant in the other forum.

The only way he gets cut is if we take a WR in the first 2 rounds. BATTLE IS NICE. Not spectacular but he did have 2 consecutive 600+ yard seasons thats solid 3 or 4 material in my book...

Morgan and Hill are locks.

Bruce and Battle fit the same roles, as reliable possession receivers. Bruce mentors Morgan which makes Battle expendable. Battle is not a "terrific special teams player" and was NOT "sorely missed" as a punt returner last season last season. That's poppycock. Rossum is far better than Battle returning punts.

Jones is a question mark. Jeff Fisher really likes him so we'll just have to wait and see.

Ziegler has great hands but is not much of a blocker which may be required with an additional emphasis on the run.

We will definitely draft at least one WR that will take a roster spot.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:


My tone is intended to whack the same mindless people who continuously infiltrate the board, spewing all kinds of misinformation, especially against players who have been classy performers for our team.

Any two-bit moron (some would say I qualify for this title) can go to NFL.com, type in Arnaz Battle, and review his playing career. And yet, this "always injured" statement emerges almost every other week, on a new and stale anti-Battle rant.

Haven't we been on this path.....for about the 1000th time. Every offseason, Battle is the pariah of this team, the guy we should cut. And every year, he goes out there and outperforms the trail of WR carcasses we've had on this team: Bryant, Jackson, Lelie, Johnson. And, yet, as soon as a new year emerges, here comes the same warn out, beat up argument. Let's dump him again. Surely someone remembers the Lelie-Battle arguments on this board in both 2007 and 2008.

Did any of these anti-Battle people who write these anti-Battle threads even watch the first half of 2008. Did they watch the games in 2007 and 2006? I think a profound whacking is fair game. And justly deserved. I will not coddle ignorance and prejudice. Do I sound like Dr. King at this point....

When will people learn, Arnaz Battle is a cockroach in a nuclear holocaust. It will not die.

Thanks for your kind comments, but you have to remember that my monicker is MadDog, not PlayfulPup. And, you will notice that I am much more pleasant in the other forum.

I can certainly understand, and join in, your stated intent to defend "players who have been classy performers for our team." And I also understand your impatience with the "mindless people who infiltrate the board, spewing all kinds of misinformation." Trolls such as that are better ignored, aren't they?

I would only point out to you that there are many, many others who post their opinions without any intention of misleading or misinforming, who are themselves sometimes misinformed or misled--and aren't those your target audience? You will not convince them to accept or adopt your point of view by "whacking" them, railing at them, or belittling them, only by patiently, reasonably, and probably repeatedly, stating the facts upon which your opinion is based. IMHO.

All the "whacking" words simply get in the way of allowing others to hear the reasonable, factual information you can provide.

I do not recall Dr. King ever directing an unkind word towards another, even when they deserved such, or were saying and doing far worse things towards him. His is an example worth following, in any forum. IMHO.

Looking forward to your next thread.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Wow, shocker!!! Another Battle-bashing post. Original. Genius. Creative. Can't wait for the next one. Went through withdrawals after the 3,476th anti-Battle posts was written a few weeks ago. Just needed another to get through the day. Thanks.

For the record, Battle led the team in receptions through Week 8, even though he was a backup.

But, who needs to keep their leading receiver, and best blocking WR? Very overrated.

P.S. It may extremely difficult for some to comprehend, and some who live in a fantasy world refuse to embrace, but Battle played every game in 2006, every game in 2007 and played the first half of 2008. That would be at least 40+ consecutive games, for those of you playing at home. Can we end the urban legend that he is "always hurt"? A consecutive streak of 40+ games is "always hurt". Now, that is legendary brilliance. Only the true genius of many Webzone members could cultivate and buy this turdish argumentation. 2006 and 2007, and the first half of 2008 never happened. A miracle!!! Congratulations, Club Mensa!!!!

Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually write an accurate and fair post on Battle someday. Until then, lunacy will continue to reign.

P.S. "Now, MadDog, you are being mean again. You think you are so smart, and look down on us. How dare you?" Blah, blah, blah, blah.

And......Eric Heitmann is still a good football player.

Man, why do you have to ruin a good bashing with facts?

I agree that whenever I see people pull the "always hurt" thing out, I start wondering what their definition of "always" is. I know it must not be the same as Merriam Webster's definition.

Originally posted by ezrider:
Morgan and Hill are locks.

Bruce and Battle fit the same roles, as reliable possession receivers. Bruce mentors Morgan which makes Battle expendable. Battle is not a "terrific special teams player" and was NOT "sorely missed" as a punt returner last season last season. That's poppycock. Rossum is far better than Battle returning punts.

Jones is a question mark. Jeff Fisher really likes him so we'll just have to wait and see.

Ziegler has great hands but is not much of a blocker which may be required with an additional emphasis on the run.

We will definitely draft at least one WR that will take a roster spot.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree with the bolded statement. I do agree that Rossum is probably a better kick off return man, but Battle has proven himself to be a very sure-handed, and intelligent punt returner, who was "sorely missed" at that position last year, when both he and Rossum were out with injuries.

Don't you recall the Ziegler at punt returner experiment. I forget which game it was, possibly Washington, but it was very nearly a disaster. At one point, Ziegler downed a punt at our one yard line or so, certainly inside the 5, and every punt return was an adventure--and not an expecially good one (although exciting).

I agree with your assessment of both Jones and Ziegler, and with your prognostication for the draft. We will see if Battle is able to hold on to his spot. If he's healthy (and it wasn't his knees that put him out last year, it was a foot injury) then, in my opinion, he's got alot to offer both as a veteran WR and as a PR.

Just my opinion, though, and you certainly don't have to agree.

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Now if you were to ask me if Shaun Hill is expendable? I would say yes. And here is why; He has proven that he could start for the right team or be at least a solid backup for those teams whose QBs' are known to be injury prone. I think that Hill would be better suited to play for Tampa, Philly, Seattle(YES I said it) or with Green Bay. They use the WCO(or some form of it) which is better suited for his style of play.

Baloney. Hill has proven he could start for the right team and that team is the Niners. You say they use the WCO or some form of it. Really? What type of offense does Jimmy Raye use and how well suited is it to Hill? He runs an offense similar to Don Coryell which is not much different from a Norv Turner offense. Unlike Martz whose ego wouldn't allow his QB to call audibles, Hill is free to audible and use his BRAIN. Raye and Hill are a perfect fit.

Nope...decent player don't get me wrong but we need to move on....We should go in with Morgan, Hill, Bruce, Jones and Draft Pick...or better yet..why don't we go get .."I shot myself in the leg" Plax....he just got cut

Originally posted by ktate14:
Nope...decent player don't get me wrong but we need to move on....We should go in with Morgan, Hill, Bruce, Jones and Draft Pick...or better yet..why don't we go get .."I shot myself in the leg" Plax....he just got cut

I don;t understand the philosophy of "we need to move on", but not have a specific player in mind as an upgrade. What if "Draft Pick" is not very good? How does it help the team to cut a veteran before even knowing if you have an upgrade. As far as Burress, I doubt the 49ers are going to pay another big veteran WR contract in free agency this offseason.

i say we just trade him to the pats where he will end up being a stud