Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Originally posted by djfullshred:Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:Originally posted by oldninerdude:Originally posted by MadDog49er:Originally posted by oldninerdude:Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Wow, really? In the last 3 years Battle has played in 39 out of 48 games. During those 3 years, 2 of them he led our receivers and last year he was having a solid year until being hurt. He has very few drops and is an extremely reliable WR.
And now people are bumping him off the roster because of .....Zeigler? The guy as thin as a rail with a total of 5 receptions in his career when our offense moves towards a run power offense? Who is Zeigler going to block, the other team's coach?
Obviously if Battle is still hurt come TC, his roster spot may be in jeopardy, but as they say, the rumors of his death have been greatly exaggerated.
Lol. Very nicely stated.
It bears repeating, that Battle's season ending injury last year was a foot injury, nothing to do with his chronic knee problems.
You obviously don't get it, old man. So, let me go through the drill with you.
1) Find a player you don't like.
2) Give no explanation why you don't like him.
3) Make up all kinds of false statements against that player.
4) Watch the board buy these faulty argument.
Get on board, old man.
P.S. The joy, of course, is there is no accountability. It doesn't matter if your statements are true or false, because we should all embrace your right to post.
When someone with more than two brain cells comes around to denounce the error-filled argument, you can call them all kinds of mean names. How dare they attempt to correct your error! How arrogant! The truth doesn't matter; we just want to make sure everyone has the right to post, that nobody has their feelings hurt.
Cheers, my friend!
Although I see your point as to the first portion of your post--there are some who post who have taken a dislike to some player or another, and resort to bashing that player. Sometimes they do so after others, who are paying closer attention, have analysed a player's abilities and correctly criticized the player's contributions. (TBC comes to mind.)
As to the second part of your post, however, the attempt to correct or challenge a mistaken argument, I think that many posters are willing to listen to reason, and pay attention to facts, and may be swayed somewhat by statistics. The key is to present such information without losing one's temper with those who may not pay attention to the details in the first place. Hard to change someone's mind while you're calling them names, even if the name calling is in retaliation. IMHO.
I must disagree with your statement that "there is no accountability." No one wants to get "owned" by making an entirely erroneous post--and that's what happens when someone gets caught posting completely incorrect information. If it happens often enough, then that person loses their credibility.
BTW, who's this "old man" to whom you are speaking? (FYI, "old dude" is not the same as "old man," I just didn't want to be mistaken for a 13 year old).
You get the craziest fans on the 'Zone though.
I'll never forget how big the Cody Pickett bandwagon was. Every single year, there is a large portion of the 'Zoners who pick some career backup/ practice squad player and are completely convinced that he is not only far better then the starter, but in fact a future Hall of Famer.
Edit: But I have to admit, I made my own major blunder. I use to think Barlow was going to be awesome
The thing that's unusual in this debate though is no one is saying Battle should be a starter. We are just talking about depth at the WR position, and Battle happens to be a decent veteran, signed through the 2009 season. But for whatever reason there are a group of fans that can't wait to run him out of town. The rush to cut players under contract before having better ones doesn't make a lot of sense to me - especially in a position that needs at least five players.
Yeah I agree. Battle will be fighting for a starting a spot and some people want us to cut him?
People on the Zone have been trying to blow him out of town for more than three years now. Anyone remember the Team Lelie arguments over the past two summers?
Battle was a late round draftee, a converted QB, and has been nothing but a good guy. And yet, every year, it is the same moronic chant to cast him onto the street.
Look, this may be the end of Battle for our franchise. But I believe he deserves some respect in the process (he has been a consumate pro), and for people to be honest about him (there have been numerous posts in the past that are flat out wrong...some intentional and some unintentional). The "injuries" crowd find it impossible to fathom that he played more than 2 1/2 straight seasons (every game) consecutively. In their warped mindset, he never steps on the field, or is absent from every other game. I can point to stats, point to the websites that verify his consecutive streak, but the same blank stare comes back my way....It can't be true.
I will admit the truth: My one weakness on this forum is blowing a gasket when individuals on the board misrepresent a player just because they...don't like him. Haven't we gone through this before with Battle, Heitmann, Derek Smith. When did any of these guys done anything but help the franchise? And yet, they were/are always the bad guys. If only we could get rid of them, and play.....the Great Ahmad Brooks.
In other words, where are all the: "Is Jason Hill really worth a roster spot at this point?" threads.
After leading his team in receptions for over 2 1/2 years, I think Battle deserves a bit more respect than a player who has produced little to nothing.
And yet, I fully expect another....I've lost count.....is it 24,785th anti-Battle post...in the next few days. We really need a clinical psychologist to understand the mindset of these individuals. Absolutely pathetic.