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*Projected* Niners Depth Chart (Updated 9/5/09)

Originally posted by 49erman5692:
NINERS 53 players

Offense: 27 players

QB: Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Damon Huard

RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Thomas Clayton

FB: Morran Norris,

WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Dominque Ziegler

WR: Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Jason Hill

TE: Vernon Davis, Delaine Walker, Bear Pasco

LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone

LG: David Baas, Adam Snyder

C: Erick Heitman, Cody Wallace

RG: Chilo Rachel, Tonny Wragge

RT: Marvel Smith, Barry Sims

Defense: 24 players
3-4 Rotational

RE: Justin Smith, Demetric Evans

NT: Aubrayo Frankiln, Issac Soapaga

LE: Ray Mcdonald, Kentwan Balmer

LOLB: Manny Lawson, Paul Egbuh

MLB: Takeo Spikes, Scott Mckillup

MLB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks

ROLB: Parrys Haralson, Brandon Long (NEED UPGRADE, Maybe Taylor)

CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer?, Reggie Smith

FS: Dashon Goldson, Marcus Hudson

SS: Michael Lewis, Jimmy Williams

CB: Nate Clemetns, Tarrel Brown, Jahi Word-Daniels

Special Teams: 3 players

K: Joe Nedney

P: Andy Lee

KR: Allen Rossum

LS: Bear Pascoe (saves roster spot)

Sorry Brian Jennings good luck

Practice Squad: 8 players

QB Nate Davis
RB Kory Sheets
FB Zack Keasey
WR Mark Bradford
LB Mark Washington
OT Jackob Bender
DT Rick Jean-Francois
S Curtis Taylor

Nice try, I know it's always hard to start these sorts of projections out and its not TOO bad of a V 1.0 but I see a fair amount that I do not agree with.

I find it hard to believe that 4 UFA (Long, Egboh, Jahi Word-Daniels and Boone) make the roster over proven vets like Arnez Battle, and Ulbrich and draft picks like Nate Davis and Rick Jean-Francois. I think Brian Jennings definetly makes the team.

I believe Pual Egbuh is more of a 3-4 DE. I'm not sure if Keasy qualifies for PS and think he might make the team as a versitile offensive player and special teams ace. I think MRob makes team over Michael Clayton, if only for his ST play.

Dominque Ziegler will have a tough time beating out Arnez Battle. I think we might only keep 9 OL and its iether Barry Sims or Alex Boone, with Boone being on the PS if not on the roster. I'd like to see Nate Davis beat out Damon Huard on the roster, and would not be too suprised if Nate Davis wouldn't be picked off waivers from enother team if we tried to put him on PS.

I agree we need a upgrade and/or depth at OLB. I think Mark Washington might finally make it off PS and take one of your UFAs spots.
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Originally posted by solidg2000:
Brian Jennings is not going anywhere

This
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Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
My take . . .

Offense (25)
WR: Michael Crabtree / Isaac Bruce / Josh Morgan / Brandon Jones / Jason Hill
TE: Vernon Davis / Delanie Walker / Bear Pascoe
OT: Joe Staley / Marvel Smith / Adam Snyder / FA/UDFA
OG: Chilo Rachal / David Baas / (Adam Snyder) / Tony Wragge
OC: Eric Heitmann / Cody Wallace
QB: Shaun Hill / Alex Smith / Nate Davis
RB: Frank Gore / Glen Coffee / Michael Robinson / Thomas Clayton
FB: Moran Norris

Defense (24)
DE: Justin Smith / Ray McDonald / Demetric Evans / Kentwan Balmer
NT: Aubrayo Franklin / Isaac Sopoaga
OLB: Parys Haralson / Manny Lawson / Jay Moore / FA/UDFA
ILB: Patrick Willis / Takeo Spikes / Scott McKillop / Jeff Ulbrich
CB: Nate Clements / Walt Harris / Tarell Brown / Shawntae Spencer / Marcus Hudson / FA/UDFA
S: Michael Lewis / Dashon Goldson / Reggie Smith / Curtis Taylor

Special Teams (4)
PK: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
KR: Allen Rossum
LS: Brian Jennings

Notable Final Cuts
DE/DT: Ricky Jean-Francois (PS) If this kid pulls his head out maybe we'll see a surprise here.
QB: Damon Huard . . or Nate Davis to the PS
WR: Arnaz Battle . . if we keep 4 RB's and 5 WR's . . . it could come down to Clayton or Battle.
WR: Dominique Zeigler
OT: Barry Sims
FS: Mark Roman
ILB: Ahmad Brooks


Unfinished business for 2010 . .

Franchise QB
RT of the future
Stud Pass Rusher
Stud NT
DB Depth

I'm liking this depth chart the best so far.

But I think we may end up keeping Damon Huard (yes, 4 QBs) and Mark Roman while we cut Thomas Clayton and send Curtis Taylor to the practice squad.

Also, since Allen Rossum was playing CB at our last minicamp... we may continue to use him at cornerback along with having him handle KR/PR duties. He could be our sixth CB.
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OFF TOPIC

But this video just has me pumped up to see what Curtis Taylor can do!!

LINK

He hits really hard and seems to have great ball skills. Had two years of starting experience for LSU playing the SEC.

Thoughts?

I think he fell this low due to a shoulder injury last year and with LSU changing pass coverage schemes under a new DC. That DC lasted one year.
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Goodbye
Mark Roman
Michael Robinson
Thomas Clayton
Jeff Ulbrich
Marcus Hudson
Barry Sims
Arnaz Battle
Dominque Ziegler
Jay Moore
Zak Keasey
Maurice Price
Justin Rolland
Maurice Price
Lewis Baker


53 man roster

Starters = BOLD

Offense
QB: Shaun Hill, Alex Smith, Damon Huard, Nate Davis
RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Kory Sheets
FB: Moran Norris
WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan
WR: Isaac Bruce, Jason Hill, Brandon Jones
TE: Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Bear Pascoe
LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone
LG: David Baas
C: Erick Heitmann, Cody Wallace
RG: Chilo Rachel, Tony Wragge
RT: Marvel Smith, Adam Snyder

Defense
DE: Justin Smith, Ray McDonald
DT: Isaac Sopoaga, Aubrayo Franklin, Rick Jean-Francois
DE: Demetric Evans, Kentwan Balmer
OLB: Manny Lawson
ILB: Takeo Spikes, Scott McKillop
ILB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks
OLB: Parys Haralson, Brandon Long
CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer, Reggie Smith
FS: Dashon Goldson, Reggie Smith, Curtis Taylor
SS: Michael Lewis, Jimmy Williams
CB: Nate Clements, Tarell Brown

Special Teams
K: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
KR: Allen Rossum
LS: Brian Jennings


Practice Squad
WR Mark Bradford
LB Mark Washington
OT Jacob Bender
DE Panell Egboh
CB Jahi Word-Daniels
CB Carlos Thomas
CB Terrail Lambert
OG Matt Huners
WR Dobson Collins
[ Edited by crzy on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:43 PM ]
Quote:
M-Rob should also be worried. He is a one trick pony, special teams that's it. If he does stick around it's because he can also be the emergency backup FB and run the dreaded Wildcat.

Let's say that VD is out with an injury and we start Walker with only Pascoe to play alongside in a 2-TE set. Pascoe gets hurt. Who comes in and plays well? Robinson.

If Norris goes down, who is our best blocking back and ready to fill in? Robinson.

The Wildcat? I guarantee that Raye will use it and it will be Robinson running it.

Who is the best receiver out of the backfield? Robinson.

Who threw the key blocks to spring Rossum for TDs last season? Robinson.

Who is captain of special teams and a team leader? Robinson.

Every team in the NFL has had the opportunity to take Clayton from our practice squad for two years and NOT ONE TEAM wants him. He sucked at Kansas State and is at best a one-dimensional player.

Anytime I see someone pick Clayton over MRob, one of two things are clear:

1) The guy doesn't know football, or
2) The guy doesn't like Michael Robinson and has lost his credibility.

No place for personal bias. We want what is best for the Niners
Yeah, that Curtis Taylor vid is DOPE!

BTW, wtf is the crazy love affair cats have with Thomas Clayton???
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would you mind or anyone else starting a topic with the taylor video?

I just got my webzone account reactivated, so I can't start a topic for 7 days.

I just want people to see that we might have finally got the FS we have been looking for, a hard hitter with come ball skills!!
Originally posted by crzy:
Goodbye
Mark Roman
Michael Robinson
Thomas Clayton
Jeff Ulbrich
Marcus Hudson
Barry Sims
Arnaz Battle
Dominque Ziegler
Jay Moore
Zak Keasey
Maurice Price
Justin Rolland
Maurice Price
Lewis Baker


53 man roster

Starters = BOLD

Offense
QB: Shaun Hill, Alex Smith, Damon Huard, Nate Davis
RB: Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Kory Sheets
FB: Moran Norris
WR: Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan
WR: Isaac Bruce, Jason Hill, Brandon Jones
TE: Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Bear Pascoe
LT: Joe Staley, Alex Boone
LG: David Baas
C: Erick Heitmann, Cody Wallace
RG: Chilo Rachel, Tony Wragge
RT: Marvel Smith, Adam Snyder

Defense
DE: Justin Smith, Ray McDonald
DT: Isaac Sopoaga, Aubrayo Franklin, Rick Jean-Francois
DE: Demetric Evans, Kentwan Balmer
OLB: Manny Lawson
ILB: Takeo Spikes, Scott McKillop
ILB: Patrick Willis, Ahmad Brooks
OLB: Parys Haralson, Brandon Long
CB: Walt Harris, Shawntae Spencer, Reggie Smith
FS: Dashon Goldson, Curtis Taylor
SS: Michael Lewis, Reggie Smith, Jimmy Williams
CB: Nate Clements, Tarell Brown

Special Teams
K: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
KR: Allen Rossum
LS: Brian Jennings


Practice Squad
WR Mark Bradford
LB Mark Washington
OT Jacob Bender
DE Panell Egboh
CB Jahi Word-Daniels
CB Carlos Thomas
CB Terrail Lambert
OG Matt Huners
WR Dobson Collins

These are the issues I see. I think we find someway to keep Ulbrich, Hudson, and Ziegler around. I have a feeling Brooks doesn't make it and Ulbrich keeps his spot, but will probably lose it next year. Hudson has good special teams talent so he may find a spot on the practice squad. Ziegler probably will hit the practice squad as well. With this being the last year on Bruce's contract I would hope we can hold on to him for the time being.

For the final 53 I only have a few qualms. I really dont see us carrying 4 QB's on the final roster. I think Balmer will get the staring nod at DE. I would also put R Smith as the #2 FS, if Goldson gets hurt I would rather have a replacement who has at least a little NFL experience.

Lastly both Battle and Ray Mac are coming off injuries. We may be able to slide at least one of them in on the PUP list.
I think we will keep another tackle and I think Cody Wallace gets cut. Heitmann,Baas and Wragge can play center
Originally posted by kezar49er:
I think we will keep another tackle and I think Cody Wallace gets cut. Heitmann,Baas and Wragge can play center

I will give you a hypothetical.....what if Heitman gets hurt? We put Wragge at C and have no other legitimate backup at C or OG? I know you will say Snyder but you would be running very thin at depth. The kid is only in his second year give him at least 3 years before you decide to cut him.
Originally posted by ezrider:
Quote:
M-Rob should also be worried. He is a one trick pony, special teams that's it. If he does stick around it's because he can also be the emergency backup FB and run the dreaded Wildcat.

Let's say that VD is out with an injury and we start Walker with only Pascoe to play alongside in a 2-TE set. Pascoe gets hurt. Who comes in and plays well? Robinson.

If Norris goes down, who is our best blocking back and ready to fill in? Robinson.

The Wildcat? I guarantee that Raye will use it and it will be Robinson running it.

Who is the best receiver out of the backfield? Robinson.

Who threw the key blocks to spring Rossum for TDs last season? Robinson.

Who is captain of special teams and a team leader? Robinson.

Every team in the NFL has had the opportunity to take Clayton from our practice squad for two years and NOT ONE TEAM wants him. He sucked at Kansas State and is at best a one-dimensional player.

Anytime I see someone pick Clayton over MRob, one of two things are clear:

1) The guy doesn't know football, or
2) The guy doesn't like Michael Robinson and has lost his credibility.

No place for personal bias. We want what is best for the Niners



Thank you.

QB (3)
11 Smith, Alex 6'4" 217 5/7/1984 4 Utah
13 Hill, Shaun 6'3" 220 1/9/1980 8 Maryland
Nate Davis 6'1" 226 Ball State
Cut/
Huard, Damon 6'3" 218 7/9/1973 13 Washington

RB (3)
21 Gore, Frank 5'9" 217 5/14/1983 5 Miami (Fla.)
Glen Coffee 6'0" 209 Alabama
Kory Sheets 5'11" 208 Purdue
Cut/
33 Clayton, Thomas 5'11" 222 4/26/1984 1 Kansas State

FB (2)
Norris, Moran 6'1" 250 6/16/1978 9 Kansas
24 Robinson, Michael 6'1" 223 2/6/1983 4 Penn State

TE (3)
85 Davis, Vernon 6'3" 250 1/31/1984 4 Maryland
46 Walker, Delanie 6'0" 242 8/12/1984 4 Central Missouri State
Bear Pascoe 6'5" 251 Fresno State

WR (5)
Crabtree, Michael 6'2" 215 Texas Tech
84 Morgan, Josh 6'0" 219 6/20/1985 2 Virginia Tech
89 Hill, Jason 6'0" 202 2/20/1985 3 Washington State
88 Bruce, Isaac 6'0" 188 11/10/1972 16 Memphis
Jones, Brandon 6'1" 212 10/6/1982 5 Oklahoma
Cut/PS/
17 Zeigler, Dominique 6'3" 185 10/11/1984 2 Baylor
83 Battle, Arnaz 6'1" 208 2/22/1980 7 Notre Dame

OT (4)
Smith, Marvel 6'5" 321 8/6/1978 10 Arizona State
74 Staley, Joe 6'5" 315 8/30/1984 3 Central Michigan
68 Snyder, Adam 6'6" 325 1/30/1982 5 Oregon
Boone, Alex 6'7" 328 Ohio State
Cut/PS/
Toledo, Joe 6'5" 330 10/20/1982 2 Washington
77 Bender, Jacob 6'6" 315 4/25/1985 3 Nicholls State

OG (3)
62 Rachal, Chilo 6'4" 315 3/15/1986 2 USC
64 Baas, David 6'4" 330 9/28/1981 5 Michigan
69 Wragge, Tony 6'4" 310 5 New Mexico State

C (2)
66 Heitmann, Eric 6'3" 312 2/24/1980 8 Stanford
59 Wallace, Cody 6'4" 300 11/26/1984 2 Texas A&M

Offense = 25


NT (3)
92 Franklin, Aubrayo 6'1" 317 8/27/1980 7 Tennessee
90 Sopoaga, Isaac 6'2" 330 9/4/1981 6 Hawaii
96 Balmer, Kentwan 6'5" 315 10/15/1986 2 North Carolina

DE (3)
94 Smith, Justin 6'4" 285 9/30/1979 9 Missouri
91 McDonald, Ray 6'3" 290 9/2/1984 3 Florida
Evans, Demetric 6'4" 287 9/3/1979 8 Georgia
PS/
Ricky Jean-Francois 6'3" 295 LSU

OLB (4)
99 Lawson, Manny 6'5" 240 7/3/1984 4 North Carolina State
98 Haralson, Parys 6'0" 255 1/24/1984 4 Tennessee
Washington, Mark 6'3" 250 8/20/1985 1 Texas State
Brandon Long 6'3" 254 Michigan State
Cut/PS/
Egboh, Pannel 6'6" 276 Stanford
58 Moore, Jay 6'4" 256 8/16/1983 2 Nebraska


ILB (4)
52 Willis, Patrick 6'1" 240 1/25/1985 3 Mississippi
51 Spikes, Takeo 6'2" 242 12/17/1976 12 Auburn
55 Brooks, Ahmad 6'3" 259 3/14/1984 4 Virginia
Scott McKillop ILB 6'1" 244 Pittsburgh
Cut/
53 Ulbrich, Jeff 6'0" 240 2/17/1977 10 Hawaii

CB (5)
22 Clements, Nate 6'0" 205 12/12/1979 9 Ohio State
25 Brown, Tarell 5'10" 193 1/6/1985 3 Texas
27 Harris, Walt 5'11" 196 8/10/1974 14 Mississippi State
36 Spencer, Shawntae 6'1" 190 2/22/1982 6 Pittsburgh
23 Hudson, Marcus 6'2" 200 11/15/1982 4 North Carolina State

SS (2)
32 Lewis, Michael 6'1" 222 4/29/1980 8 Colorado
31 Smith, Reggie 6'1" 200 9/13/1986 2 Oklahoma
Cut/PS/
0 Baker, Lewis 6'3" 203 10/12/1984 0 Oklahoma

FS (3)
38 Goldson, Dashon 6'2" 200 9/18/1984 3 Washington
Curtis Taylor FS 6'2" 209 LSU
24 Williams, Jimmy 6'3" 212 3/8/1984 2 Virginia Tech
Cut/
26 Roman, Mark 5'11" 205 3/26/1977 10 Louisiana State

Defense = 25

K
6 Nedney, Joe K ACT 6'5" 234 3/22/1973 14 San Jose State
P
4 Lee, Andy P ACT 6'0" 178 8/11/1982 6 Pittsburgh
LS
86 Jennings, Brian TE ACT 6'5" 242 10/14/1976 10 Arizona State
KR
(Kory Sheets 5'11" 208 Purdue)
Cut/
20 Rossum, Allen 5'8" 178 10/22/1975 12 Notre Dame

Special Teams = 3

Total = 53
Offense = 25
Defense = 25
Originally posted by nekst:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
My take . . .

Offense (25)
WR: Michael Crabtree / Isaac Bruce / Josh Morgan / Brandon Jones / Jason Hill
TE: Vernon Davis / Delanie Walker / Bear Pascoe
OT: Joe Staley / Marvel Smith / Adam Snyder / FA/UDFA
OG: Chilo Rachal / David Baas / (Adam Snyder) / Tony Wragge
OC: Eric Heitmann / Cody Wallace
QB: Shaun Hill / Alex Smith / Nate Davis
RB: Frank Gore / Glen Coffee / Michael Robinson / Thomas Clayton
FB: Moran Norris

Defense (24)
DE: Justin Smith / Ray McDonald / Demetric Evans / Kentwan Balmer
NT: Aubrayo Franklin / Isaac Sopoaga
OLB: Parys Haralson / Manny Lawson / Jay Moore / FA/UDFA
ILB: Patrick Willis / Takeo Spikes / Scott McKillop / Jeff Ulbrich
CB: Nate Clements / Walt Harris / Tarell Brown / Shawntae Spencer / Marcus Hudson / FA/UDFA
S: Michael Lewis / Dashon Goldson / Reggie Smith / Curtis Taylor

Special Teams (4)
PK: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
KR: Allen Rossum
LS: Brian Jennings

Notable Final Cuts
DE/DT: Ricky Jean-Francois (PS) If this kid pulls his head out maybe we'll see a surprise here.
QB: Damon Huard . . or Nate Davis to the PS
WR: Arnaz Battle . . if we keep 4 RB's and 5 WR's . . . it could come down to Clayton or Battle.
WR: Dominique Zeigler
OT: Barry Sims
FS: Mark Roman
ILB: Ahmad Brooks


Unfinished business for 2010 . .

Franchise QB
RT of the future
Stud Pass Rusher
Stud NT
DB Depth

I'm liking this depth chart the best so far.

But I think we may end up keeping Damon Huard (yes, 4 QBs) and Mark Roman while we cut Thomas Clayton and send Curtis Taylor to the practice squad.

Also, since Allen Rossum was playing CB at our last minicamp... we may continue to use him at cornerback along with having him handle KR/PR duties. He could be our sixth CB.

Ya I'd agree, I do think Arnez Battle will beat out Thomas Clayton for a Roster spot however.

It is a little scary that we will have to be fillin 3 roster spots with FA/UDFA that are not currently a 49er.

Maybe a trade? If not we might have to hope some servasable vets will get cut around the NFL.
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Originally posted by 49erman5692:
NINERS 53 players

LOLB: Manny Lawson, Paul Egbuh

Practice Squad: 8 players

QB Nate Davis
RB Kory Sheets
FB Zack Keasey
WR Mark Bradford
LB Mark Washington
OT Jackob Bender
DT Rick Jean-Francois
S Curtis Taylor

Egboh is a 3-4 DE, not a 3-4 OLB. Zak Keasey is not eligible for the practice squad.