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Donte Whitner aka Hitner

Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Agreed. If there was one adjustment I'd make, I'd go back to white shoes though. After all, why mess with tradition?

Is that a league mandated thing? (shoe color). I forget. I know the socks are for sure but I vaguely remember Crabtree having a custom pair of gold cleats.
Originally posted by trellblaze:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Agreed. If there was one adjustment I'd make, I'd go back to white shoes though. After all, why mess with tradition?

Is that a league mandated thing? (shoe color). I forget. I know the socks are for sure but I vaguely remember Crabtree having a custom pair of gold cleats.

If i'm not mistaken, the only thing about the shoe that's mandated is logo. It has to be Nike, otherwise the logo has to be covered.

As far shoe color, it just has to match team colors -- hence Crabtrees custom gold kicks

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CA4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ehow.com%2Flist_6911085_nfl-equipment-rules.html&ei=M8ZVUqqqIsKqiQKUs4GIBQ&usg=AFQjCNFNdqT0GsLGOfgAAF2BwwZKu49bZg
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Originally posted by trellblaze:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Agreed. If there was one adjustment I'd make, I'd go back to white shoes though. After all, why mess with tradition?

Is that a league mandated thing? (shoe color). I forget. I know the socks are for sure but I vaguely remember Crabtree having a custom pair of gold cleats.

and he got fined for them.

The league controls every aspect of the uniform. The NFL wants plain colored cleats, black or white. Could've changed but that used to be the case a few years ago.
[ Edited by sfout on Oct 9, 2013 at 5:42 PM ]
The NFL no longer wants the SS as part of the game

John Lynch was talking about it. He was saying that guys like Ronnie, Easley, Dennis Smith, and even HIMSELF would not be allowed anymore.

We've replaced Whitner with Hitner but his $21K fine was BS, that was a legit shoulder hit

Instead of looking at film and fining guys after the fact, Gotohell has instructed the refs to flag EVERYTHING. The refs won't get in trouble if they throw the flag and they are wrong but they will if they don't and they are. Go fricking figure.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The NFL no longer wants the SS as part of the game

John Lynch was talking about it. He was saying that guys like Ronnie, Easley, Dennis Smith, and even HIMSELF would not be allowed anymore.

We've replaced Whitner with Hitner but his $21K fine was BS, that was a legit shoulder hit

Instead of looking at film and fining guys after the fact, Gotohell has instructed the refs to flag EVERYTHING. The refs won't get in trouble if they throw the flag and they are wrong but they will if they don't and they are. Go fricking figure.

agreed
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The NFL no longer wants the SS as part of the game

John Lynch was talking about it. He was saying that guys like Ronnie, Easley, Dennis Smith, and even HIMSELF would not be allowed anymore.

We've replaced Whitner with Hitner but his $21K fine was BS, that was a legit shoulder hit

Instead of looking at film and fining guys after the fact, Gotohell has instructed the refs to flag EVERYTHING. The refs won't get in trouble if they throw the flag and they are wrong but they will if they don't and they are. Go fricking figure.

agreed

That's basically what it comes down. The refs are graded poorly for the game if they don't toss the flag. A head official could even be demoted if they miss too many of these calls.

They are instructed to throw the flag if there is doubt to the legality of the hit. It should be the opposite. If there is doubt, DO NOT FLAG IT. Review the hit after the game, and if it was dirty, fine and/or suspend the player. That way the players who hit illegally will get punished, and we won't be penalizing legal hits on the field.

These guys are scratching and clawing for every yard. These 15 yard personal fouls are a killer, and can often influence the outcome of the game.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Oct 9, 2013 at 8:10 PM ]
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The NFL no longer wants the SS as part of the game

John Lynch was talking about it. He was saying that guys like Ronnie, Easley, Dennis Smith, and even HIMSELF would not be allowed anymore.

We've replaced Whitner with Hitner but his $21K fine was BS, that was a legit shoulder hit

Instead of looking at film and fining guys after the fact, Gotohell has instructed the refs to flag EVERYTHING. The refs won't get in trouble if they throw the flag and they are wrong but they will if they don't and they are. Go fricking figure.

agreed

That's basically what it comes down. The refs are graded poorly for the game if they don't toss the flag. A head official could even be demoted if they miss too many of these calls.

They are instructed to throw the flag if there is doubt to the legality of the hit. It should be the opposite. If there is doubt, DO NOT FLAG IT. Review the hit after the game, and if it was dirty, fine and/or suspend the player. That way the players who hit illegally will get punished, and we won't be penalizing legal hits on the field.

These guys are scratching and clawing for every yard. These 15 yard personal fouls are a killer, and can often influence the outcome of the game.

The NFL is run by lawyers. Goodell is simply the face.
Originally posted by trellblaze:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Agreed. If there was one adjustment I'd make, I'd go back to white shoes though. After all, why mess with tradition?

Is that a league mandated thing? (shoe color). I forget. I know the socks are for sure but I vaguely remember Crabtree having a custom pair of gold cleats.

Totally. Anybody remember Billy "White Shoes" Johnson? First to do it ever and a phenom who might just put up 3000 yards if he didn't get taken out back then.

They had to injure him. Kinda like Marcus Dupree. First white shoes ever and unstoppable, until, ouch. Google him.

I'm goin white, all on board....
Gotta agree with you guys.

Is the NFL becoming a game of "liability"?

Man Lott would be destructuring these guys bodies

Butt now?

Oh its a penalty cause the buffed up little redneck reff thinks it was a foul.

Fine. In some cases, definitely, and absolutely.

But there used to be a code where injury was a non intended consequence.

Now we have..receivers and db's fighting for the ball as a felony!

Rice, Irvin, Carter, and the rest.....defined RECEIVER fighting for that ball.

The NFL is trying to legally protect themselves over the concussion issue by dousing the game.

Make football football again.

Fire the commissioner of badmitton.
Originally posted by 49erWay:
Gotta agree with you guys.

Is the NFL becoming a game of "liability"?

Man Lott would be destructuring these guys bodies

Butt now?

Oh its a penalty cause the buffed up little redneck reff thinks it was a foul.

Fine. In some cases, definitely, and absolutely.

But there used to be a code where injury was a non intended consequence.

Now we have..receivers and db's fighting for the ball as a felony!

Rice, Irvin, Carter, and the rest.....defined RECEIVER fighting for that ball.

The NFL is trying to legally protect themselves over the concussion issue by dousing the game.

Make football football again.

Fire the commissioner of badmitton.

I'm excited as hell that Bud Selig is leaving MLB and David Stern is leaving the NBA but I would run into the streets to celebrate if Goodell left the National Flag League.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The NFL no longer wants the SS as part of the game

John Lynch was talking about it. He was saying that guys like Ronnie, Easley, Dennis Smith, and even HIMSELF would not be allowed anymore.

We've replaced Whitner with Hitner but his $21K fine was BS, that was a legit shoulder hit

Instead of looking at film and fining guys after the fact, Gotohell has instructed the refs to flag EVERYTHING. The refs won't get in trouble if they throw the flag and they are wrong but they will if they don't and they are. Go fricking figure.


Lol. That's funny.

But how about relate him to Nazi Germany's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels? That seems more appropriate, and fits pretty well.

Roger Goedells?
Roger Goebell?
If they let the close calls go, then fine after review, coachs like Williams will find rich "fans" to pay players under the table. Slippery slope.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Oct 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM ]
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by trellblaze:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Agreed. If there was one adjustment I'd make, I'd go back to white shoes though. After all, why mess with tradition?

Is that a league mandated thing? (shoe color). I forget. I know the socks are for sure but I vaguely remember Crabtree having a custom pair of gold cleats.

and he got fined for them.

The league controls every aspect of the uniform. The NFL wants plain colored cleats, black or white. Could've changed but that used to be the case a few years ago.

Yea that sounds right.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
The NFL no longer wants the SS as part of the game

John Lynch was talking about it. He was saying that guys like Ronnie, Easley, Dennis Smith, and even HIMSELF would not be allowed anymore.

We've replaced Whitner with Hitner but his $21K fine was BS, that was a legit shoulder hit

Instead of looking at film and fining guys after the fact, Gotohell has instructed the refs to flag EVERYTHING. The refs won't get in trouble if they throw the flag and they are wrong but they will if they don't and they are. Go fricking figure.


Lol. That's funny.

But how about relate him to Nazi Germany's propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels? That seems more appropriate, and fits pretty well.

Roger Goedells?
Roger Goebell?

i usually go with fidel goodell
Originally posted by HoneyBadger49er:
f**k Whitner, If we had a real Safety playing that night, we would have easily won the Super Bowl.


Hell yes...

And seriously, Whitner scares the crap out of me. I swear the guy is a hair away from getting a 15 yard penalty at the end of every play he is involved with. BIG hitter, nice in the run but in pass coverage he is a total dog. He's gone next year, We have Reid and I would bet money we spend a early round pick on another safety or corner.
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