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I guess the NFL really want Ray Lewis to go out on top!!!!

Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
True, but its his job to intervene and make this call regardless. Like I said, the hold provided 6 more seconds.

What do you mean? There's no way the DB held Crabtree for 6 seconds.


I was talking about the punt
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
The rule said that an official can stop play due to a foul imediately (not a direct quote)

Only if it's a dead ball penalty. Like a false start or an offsides that draws an Olineman offsides.
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
I was talking about the punt

oh. Then yeah it gave them 6 seconds. But that was just the Ravens being smart and taking advantage of the nfl rules.
Guys don't blame the refs. Our secondary played terrible and dug us a hole we couldn't overcome. Aso, Greg Roman's play calling on the goal line come into question.
Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
I dont know if you watch footage or not, but I cant see how this CLEAR wrap around is not a PI. On any level of football you play, when your arms are outside of the pads ITS A HOLD. And for goodness sake, had the called the hold on the punt, the hold would have taken place AND the clock would have been reset to the time of the foul which woild have been 9 sec. and a FG attempt or hail mary

The time would not have been reset. It would've been 4 seconds and a safety kick. the EXACT same thing that happened without the penalty. Refs did no wrong there.

That's not the point. The call can't not be made because it wouldn't have matter either way. It was holding, no flag was thrown. It didn't cost us the game, twice having first and goal in the game and only coming away with three points was bigger. But that flag not being thrown is a reason why the officiating is under such criticism.
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[ Edited by BayArea on Feb 4, 2013 at 4:16 AM ]
Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
The rule said that an official can stop play due to a foul imediately (not a direct quote)

Only if it's a dead ball penalty. Like a false start or an offsides that draws an Olineman offsides.


The rules only said "a foul"
Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
That's not the point. The call can't not be made because it wouldn't have matter either way. It was holding, no flag was thrown. It didn't cost us the game, twice having first and goal in the game and only coming away with three points was bigger. But that flag not being thrown is a reason why the officiating is under such criticism.

Why would they be under criticism for a play that doesn't matter? What if the refs knew throwing a flag wouldn't have effected the game? What if John told them what they were going to do so the refs let it go on?
Originally posted by kelpie70:
Guys don't blame the refs. Our secondary played terrible and dug us a hole we couldn't overcome. Aso, Greg Roman's play calling on the goal line come into question.


Agree, but they rallied back and made their 1st half null and void. Its like holding someone in debt that has paid their dues.
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
The rules only said "a foul"

Yes, "In which the ball remains dead" which means before the team hikes the ball they will blow the whistle and call the penalty and "is dead immediately" which means if the team does hike the ball as soon as the penalty occurs then the refs will immediately rule it dead because it happened before the play snapped. You don't just rule the ball dead in the middle of the play, that doesn't make any sense.
Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Originally posted by 49erfaninPA:
That's not the point. The call can't not be made because it wouldn't have matter either way. It was holding, no flag was thrown. It didn't cost us the game, twice having first and goal in the game and only coming away with three points was bigger. But that flag not being thrown is a reason why the officiating is under such criticism.

Why would they be under criticism for a play that doesn't matter? What if the refs knew throwing a flag wouldn't have effected the game? What if John told them what they were going to do so the refs let it go on?


How was it "not effective"? Are you aware that this no call gave them 6 more seconds?
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
How was it "not effective"? Are you aware that this no call gave them 6 more seconds?

No it didn't. If they call the flag there's 4 seconds and a safety. No flag, 4 seconds and a safety. Same result.
Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Well the fact that Crabtree put his hand on the DB's helmet and pushed him down has a deciding factor on PI. It was a stupid play call. The play was 50/50 on the call, and it was the right call either way.

And who ever said Ray Lewis knew god? Nobody knows god. He found god through religion and just because he believes god helped him doesn't mean it's a marketing scheme.

Mooch and crew tried to make that same argument in their analysis and backed of it because Crabtree did not push off...... Mooch started to describe it and the video clearly showed otherwise.... Sap was even laughing at him.
Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
The rules only said "a foul"

Yes, "In which the ball remains dead" which means before the team hikes the ball they will blow the whistle and call the penalty and "is dead immediately" which means if the team does hike the ball as soon as the penalty occurs then the refs will immediately rule it dead because it happened before the play snapped. You don't just rule the ball dead in the middle of the play, that doesn't make any sense.
And you are being selective when you read the rules

(h) at the time of a foul for which the ball remains dead or is dead immediately;

OR IS DEAD IMMEDIATELY.

And the refs just stopped aplay mid play last night. Did you watch the game.
Originally posted by Kaep4MVP:
Originally posted by Puckdaddy:
The rules only said "a foul"

Yes, "In which the ball remains dead" which means before the team hikes the ball they will blow the whistle and call the penalty and "is dead immediately" which means if the team does hike the ball as soon as the penalty occurs then the refs will immediately rule it dead because it happened before the play snapped. You don't just rule the ball dead in the middle of the play, that doesn't make any sense.
And you are being selective when you read the rules

(h) at the time of a foul for which the ball remains dead or is dead immediately;

OR IS DEAD IMMEDIATELY.

And the refs just stopped aplay mid play last night. Did you watch the game.