Terrell Owens cannot be tolerated, even by the Indoor Football League

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
T.O.

Or T. Owe

Bwah hah hah!

That's funny!

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:
""I would have pulled out the video and said, 'Here's why I don't throw you the ball. You can't catch.' And I would have done it through the media like he did to Garcia."

- Joe Montana on how he would respond to Owens crying for the ball more (when with the Cowboys).

Did Joe Montana do that every time Rice whined about not getting the football? Talk about hypocrisy.

Montana also publicly accused Steve Young of campaigning for playing time behind his back.

Really?
Rice never whined about getting the football while he played with Montana, and he rarely dropped the football when it was thrown to him. And for being involved in what was probably the biggest QB controversy in NFL history both Montana and Young stayed pretty classy about their remarks to the press. You see a quote being critical of T.O. and you respond by finger pointing at two of the best players to ever play their possitions and the two greatest 9ers of all time. How very T.O. like of you.

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Oh really? Then why would Espn be in the making of a documentary called "Broke" including Andre Rison, Terrell Owens, Jamal Lewis and a bunch of other broke athletes?

Why don't you do the math and tell me what his net worth is? Bc we all know he is well behind on his child supports payments and is making $0

And a foreclosure on his house?

Um, he just made 6 figures off the IFL contract alone.

I'll take the words of Terrell Owens himself ("I'm not broke") over you citing ESPN making some documentary titled, "broke"...something that hasn't even come out yet.

He owned many homes/apartments. He's sold some of them, and some went into foreclosure. You don't seem to grasp that not being able to continue paying over $100,000 per month =/= broke.

He owned the houses in his name but he didn't own them financially speaking. He took loans out and couldn't pay them back. He is selling the houses and the money is going to the loan. This is the process when you are broke. You owe more than you have and houses go into foreclosure.

Foreclosure happens to people who are broke. Owing money In child support and not having the money to pay it is broke. Having a balance with American Express and not paying and getting sued for payment = broke.

All the above is "broke" IMO and is the complete opposite of financial success Bc he had it and blew it instead of investing.

He is hitting bottom if he already didn't. In time all properties will have a foreclosure notice since he has no other means to make $$$ now that his NFL career is over.

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:
Really?
Rice never whined about getting the football while he played with Montana,

Yeah. Right. He just all of a sudden started whining when Steve Young took over.

and he rarely dropped the football when it was thrown to him.

Rice was the most drops-prone receiver in the history of the league. You would not believe the number of balls he dropped. This is a statement from fans who either never saw him play, or don't remember anything from when he did play. Pop in any game Rice played, you are more likely to see him drop 2 balls in that game than you are to see him drop 0.

And for being involved in what was probably the biggest QB controversy in NFL history both Montana and Young stayed pretty classy about their remarks to the press. You see a quote being critical of T.O. and you respond by finger pointing at two of the best players to ever play their possitions and the two greatest 9ers of all time. How very T.O. like of you.

Steve Young handled it with class. Montana didn't. There's no secret there. You are only interested in revisionist history, though.

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:
Really?
Rice never whined about getting the football while he played with Montana,

Yeah. Right. He just all of a sudden started whining when Steve Young took over.

and he rarely dropped the football when it was thrown to him.

Rice was the most drops-prone receiver in the history of the league. You would not believe the number of balls he dropped. This is a statement from fans who either never saw him play, or don't remember anything from when he did play. Pop in any game Rice played, you are more likely to see him drop 2 balls in that game than you are to see him drop 0.

And for being involved in what was probably the biggest QB controversy in NFL history both Montana and Young stayed pretty classy about their remarks to the press. You see a quote being critical of T.O. and you respond by finger pointing at two of the best players to ever play their possitions and the two greatest 9ers of all time. How very T.O. like of you.

Steve Young handled it with class. Montana didn't. There's no secret there. You are only interested in revisionist history, though.

Jordan? Izzat you??

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
He owned the houses in his name but he didn't own them financially speaking. He took loans out and couldn't pay them back. He is selling the houses and the money is going to the loan. This is the process when you are broke. You owe more than you have and houses go into foreclosure.

Foreclosure happens to people who are broke. Owing money In child support and not having the money to pay it is broke. Having a balance with American Express and not paying and getting sued for payment = broke.

No. The amounts he has to pay are outrageous, that's why he can't afford them anymore.

He still has 7 figures in assets. I'll give you that much. But do the math. 45K in child support, plus tens of thousands for several mortgages each month...he's putting an end to the bleeding now, so he doesn't actually go broke.

Also, suing people costs money. Owens is suing the Wranglers. Having money =/= broke.

All the above is "broke" IMO and is the complete opposite of financial success Bc he had it and blew it instead of investing.

He is hitting bottom if he already didn't. In time all properties will have a foreclosure notice since he has no other means to make $$$ now that his NFL career is over.

He did invest. His investments were bad ones, like a number of former athletes.

But how many former athletes are living on the street or off welfare? Try, just about zero. That ought to tell you something about what "broke" really means to them.

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

He owned the houses in his name but he didn't own them financially speaking. He took loans out and couldn't pay them back. He is selling the houses and the money is going to the loan. This is the process when you are broke. You owe more than you have and houses go into foreclosure.

Foreclosure happens to people who are broke. Owing money In child support and not having the money to pay it is broke. Having a balance with American Express and not paying and getting sued for payment = broke.

No. The amounts he has to pay are outrageous, that's why he can't afford them anymore.

He still has 7 figures in assets. I'll give you that much. But do the math. 45K in child support, plus tens of thousands for several mortgages each month...he's putting an end to the bleeding now, so he doesn't actually go broke.

Also, suing people costs money. Owens is suing the Wranglers. Having money =/= broke.

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All the above is "broke" IMO and is the complete opposite of financial success Bc he had it and blew it instead of investing.

He is hitting bottom if he already didn't. In time all properties will have a foreclosure notice since he has no other means to make $$$ now that his NFL career is over.

He did invest. His investments were bad ones, like a number of former athletes.

But how many former athletes are living on the street or off welfare? Try, just about zero. That ought to tell you something about what "broke" really means to them.
You can sue people without money, the lawyer takes a higher percentage if he wins. Owens may also have a retainer fee with a firm that he paid when he wasn't broke.

Just Bc you have assets does not mean your net worth cannot = 0. Net worth is assets - liabilities. If Owens owes money on all the houses, child support, and AMEX ... He can easily owe more than he has which makes his net worth 0 and that means financially embarassed (broke).

Broke is a loose term and does not necessarily mean on welfare. To call someone broke who is loosing houses to foreclosure is not out of this world to apply the term.

And do you think any banks would loan TO any $$$ right now?

TO should just file a medical suit to the league and claim he has brain damage too.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
He did invest. His investments were bad ones, like a number of former athletes.

But how many former athletes are living on the street or off welfare? Try, just about zero. That ought to tell you something about what "broke" really means to them.

You can sue people without money, the lawyer takes a higher percentage if he wins. Owens may also have a retainer fee with a firm that he paid when he wasn't broke.

Just Bc you have assets does not mean your net worth cannot = 0. Net worth is assets - liabilities. If Owens owes money on all the houses, child support, and AMEX ... He can easily owe more than he has which makes his net worth 0 and that means financially embarassed (broke).

Broke is a loose term and does not necessarily mean on welfare. To call someone broke who is loosing houses to foreclosure is not out of this world to apply the term.

And do you think any banks would loan TO any $$$ right now?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
He did invest. His investments were bad ones, like a number of former athletes.

But how many former athletes are living on the street or off welfare? Try, just about zero. That ought to tell you something about what "broke" really means to them.

You can sue people without money, the lawyer takes a higher percentage if he wins. Owens may also have a retainer fee with a firm that he paid when he wasn't broke.

Just Bc you have assets does not mean your net worth cannot = 0. Net worth is assets - liabilities. If Owens owes money on all the houses, child support, and AMEX ... He can easily owe more than he has which makes his net worth 0 and that means financially embarassed (broke).

Broke is a loose term and does not necessarily mean on welfare. To call someone broke who is loosing houses to foreclosure is not out of this world to apply the term.

And do you think any banks would loan TO any $$$ right now?

But he doesn't, at least not in terms of total assets vs. monthly expenditures. He's just not paying what he's supposed to. His credit will be f-ed, but knowing that the housing market is making it nearly impossible for him to sell, he's opting for what he believes is the less damaging route. One of his homes was sold via short sale.

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

He did invest. His investments were bad ones, like a number of former athletes.

But how many former athletes are living on the street or off welfare? Try, just about zero. That ought to tell you something about what "broke" really means to them.

Quote:

You can sue people without money, the lawyer takes a higher percentage if he wins. Owens may also have a retainer fee with a firm that he paid when he wasn't broke.

Just Bc you have assets does not mean your net worth cannot = 0. Net worth is assets - liabilities. If Owens owes money on all the houses, child support, and AMEX ... He can easily owe more than he has which makes his net worth 0 and that means financially embarassed (broke).

Broke is a loose term and does not necessarily mean on welfare. To call someone broke who is loosing houses to foreclosure is not out of this world to apply the term.

And do you think any banks would loan TO any $$$ right now?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

He did invest. His investments were bad ones, like a number of former athletes.

But how many former athletes are living on the street or off welfare? Try, just about zero. That ought to tell you something about what "broke" really means to them.

Quote:

You can sue people without money, the lawyer takes a higher percentage if he wins. Owens may also have a retainer fee with a firm that he paid when he wasn't broke.

Just Bc you have assets does not mean your net worth cannot = 0. Net worth is assets - liabilities. If Owens owes money on all the houses, child support, and AMEX ... He can easily owe more than he has which makes his net worth 0 and that means financially embarassed (broke).

Broke is a loose term and does not necessarily mean on welfare. To call someone broke who is loosing houses to foreclosure is not out of this world to apply the term.

And do you think any banks would loan TO any $$$ right now?

But he doesn't, at least not in terms of total assets vs. monthly expenditures. He's just not paying what he's supposed to. His credit will be f-ed, but knowing that the housing market is making it nearly impossible for him to sell, he's opting for what he believes is the less damaging route. One of his homes was sold via short sale.

Owning the houses could be the reason he is broke. If the houses he own add up to say $10 million , but he owes $12 million on them Bc of interest or the houses went down in value from the crash...... This would be an example of why he is broke.

Another reason he could be broke is Bc he has no access to liquid assets (no cash, stocks, bonds etc.) he may have a bunch of nice stuff like cars, jewelry, clothes but it may not be enough to sell and pay off what he owes.

There are many ways he could be "broke" just Bc a lot of stuff is still in his name, does not mean he is not financially embarassed in regards to the bottom line in my opinion.

I will be very surprised if all his houses are not foreclosed and he finds financial success in the future

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:

Really?
Rice never whined about getting the football while he played with Montana,

Yeah. Right. He just all of a sudden started whining when Steve Young took over.

<blockquote class="quote">and he rarely dropped the football when it was thrown to him.

Rice was the most drops-prone receiver in the history of the league. You would not believe the number of balls he dropped. This is a statement from fans who either never saw him play, or don't remember anything from when he did play. Pop in any game Rice played, you are more likely to see him drop 2 balls in that game than you are to see him drop 0.

<blockquote class="quote">And for being involved in what was probably the biggest QB controversy in NFL history both Montana and Young stayed pretty classy about their remarks to the press. You see a quote being critical of T.O. and you respond by finger pointing at two of the best players to ever play their possitions and the two greatest 9ers of all time. How very T.O. like of you.
Steve Young handled it with class. Montana didn't. There's no secret there. You are only interested in revisionist history, though.
wow! Don't have much time to post but, you either weren't around for that era or you were high.

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:
Really?
Rice never whined about getting the football while he played with Montana, and he rarely dropped the football when it was thrown to him. And for being involved in what was probably the biggest QB controversy in NFL history both Montana and Young stayed pretty classy about their remarks to the press. You see a quote being critical of T.O. and you respond by finger pointing at two of the best players to ever play their possitions and the two greatest 9ers of all time. How very T.O. like of you.

rice did drop it alot during his first 6 games as a rookie,, he did whine and was a diva after our third super bowl win as he complained he was not getting enough respect. and he also held out one year which was major news. He came back and was called for offside twice in one game, John madden ripped him saying a wide out should never be off side. rice had a couple bouts where we was a problem child but in the end no biggie,, owens on the other hand has to generate, create or prolong drama, otherwise he would have to live a normal life

Originally posted by DerekJeterForGG:

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:
Really?
Rice never whined about getting the football while he played with Montana,

Yeah. Right. He just all of a sudden started whining when Steve Young took over.

and he rarely dropped the football when it was thrown to him.

Rice was the most drops-prone receiver in the history of the league. You would not believe the number of balls he dropped. This is a statement from fans who either never saw him play, or don't remember anything from when he did play. Pop in any game Rice played, you are more likely to see him drop 2 balls in that game than you are to see him drop 0.

And for being involved in what was probably the biggest QB controversy in NFL history both Montana and Young stayed pretty classy about their remarks to the press. You see a quote being critical of T.O. and you respond by finger pointing at two of the best players to ever play their possitions and the two greatest 9ers of all time. How very T.O. like of you.

Steve Young handled it with class. Montana didn't. There's no secret there. You are only interested in revisionist history, though.

This is the dumbest post I have ever seen on this site. Rice dropped balls to begin his career, but for the majority of his career he was money and rarely dropped the ball. You don't become the best WR to ever play by dropping balls on a regular. You don't set every record known to WR's by dropping the ball on a regular.


Move along

Originally posted by WINiner:
This is the dumbest post I have ever seen on this site. Rice dropped balls to begin his career, but for the majority of his career he was money and rarely dropped the ball. You don't become the best WR to ever play by dropping balls on a regular. You don't set every record known to WR's by dropping the ball on a regular.


Move along

Wrong. Rice only dropping balls his rookie year is a laughable urban legend. He had horrible hands throughout his career. You lived with it because he was the king of big plays.

Steve Young handled it with class. Montana didn't. There's no secret there. You are only interested in revisionist history, though.
wow! Don't have much time to post but, you either weren't around for that era or you were high.

I own hundreds of 49ers games from the Rice years on DVD. I have never witnessed a more drops-prone receiver than Jerry Rice. It's not even close. Pull out your 94-95 NFC Championship game vs. Dallas. 3 drops, right there.