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Saints ran a 'Bounty' Program - Now with 100% More Suspensions!

Originally posted by sfout:
The NFL says it has fined Bill Belichick the NFL maximum of $500,000, the Patriots $250,000 and ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice (if it reaches the playoffs) because New England spied on the Jets defensive signals. If the Patriots don't make the playoffs they have to give up second- and third-round picks in April. Read more: http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/staff/posts/2310-the-patriots-penalty-for-spy-gate#ixzz1o0FEvTMG

There is talk that Williams and Payton could be suspended for a large chunk of the season, if not barred for an entire year, both of them will be fined the maximum allowable amount, a similar punishment will be handed to GM Mickey Loomis and their was even more talking head chatter that they could lose the ability to franchise tag a player so X amount of years, plus multiple draft picks(I'd argue every 1st, 2nd, 3rd round choice for the next 3 years. Same duration as the violation). This will be the NFL equivalent of the Death Penalty, especially with the overemphasis on head injuries and overall player safety. Don Banks on SI said that if this was the NCAA the saints would lose their super bowl title as well.

dont we play the saints next year?

lets hope its early in the season
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by sfout:
The NFL says it has fined Bill Belichick the NFL maximum of $500,000, the Patriots $250,000 and ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice (if it reaches the playoffs) because New England spied on the Jets defensive signals. If the Patriots don't make the playoffs they have to give up second- and third-round picks in April. Read more: http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/staff/posts/2310-the-patriots-penalty-for-spy-gate#ixzz1o0FEvTMG

There is talk that Williams and Payton could be suspended for a large chunk of the season, if not barred for an entire year, both of them will be fined the maximum allowable amount, a similar punishment will be handed to GM Mickey Loomis and their was even more talking head chatter that they could lose the ability to franchise tag a player so X amount of years, plus multiple draft picks(I'd argue every 1st, 2nd, 3rd round choice for the next 3 years. Same duration as the violation). This will be the NFL equivalent of the Death Penalty, especially with the overemphasis on head injuries and overall player safety. Don Banks on SI said that if this was the NCAA the saints would lose their super bowl title as well.

dont we play the saints next year?

lets hope its early in the season

screw the saints, serves them right. they win 1 superbowl and they think they are the hottest sh*t ever.
And i wonder how aubrayo franklin feels right about now on that sinking ship.
Originally posted by fister30:
They were investigated for a whole year? Slowest investigation everrrrr.

if they investigated the niners for this and came down on them in two months you'd be pissed. nothing wrong with giving them due process. plus, how fast you you read thousands of pages of documents?
Sweet we've probably just jumped up a pick or two in the draft. BOOM it's all coming up Niners
just heard about this, thats pretty low to go after players to hurt them like that. what a piece of s**t that greg williams is hope he gets fined and suspended a year atleast.
Originally posted by smithc28:
Sweet we've probably just jumped up a pick or two in the draft. BOOM it's all coming up Niners

not in 1st round

saints dont have a pick in first round this year

they are expected to lose a first next year though (along with some other picks this year)
Originally posted by ads_2006:
we wouldnt need a bounty program

our defenders bring the hammer regardless of who we playing

what a beauty of a post in all this havoc
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by smithc28:
Sweet we've probably just jumped up a pick or two in the draft. BOOM it's all coming up Niners

not in 1st round

saints dont have a pick in first round this year

they are expected to lose a first next year though (along with some other picks this year)

Hopefully their 2nd this year and their 1st next year
Originally posted by smithc28:
Sweet we've probably just jumped up a pick or two in the draft. BOOM it's all coming up Niners

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[ Edited by fister30 on Mar 2, 2012 at 3:07 PM ]
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Originally posted by SundayTicket:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
Originally posted by sfout:
The NFL says it has fined Bill Belichick the NFL maximum of $500,000, the Patriots $250,000 and ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice (if it reaches the playoffs) because New England spied on the Jets defensive signals. If the Patriots don't make the playoffs they have to give up second- and third-round picks in April. Read more: http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/staff/posts/2310-the-patriots-penalty-for-spy-gate#ixzz1o0FEvTMG

There is talk that Williams and Payton could be suspended for a large chunk of the season, if not barred for an entire year, both of them will be fined the maximum allowable amount, a similar punishment will be handed to GM Mickey Loomis and their was even more talking head chatter that they could lose the ability to franchise tag a player so X amount of years, plus multiple draft picks(I'd argue every 1st, 2nd, 3rd round choice for the next 3 years. Same duration as the violation). This will be the NFL equivalent of the Death Penalty, especially with the overemphasis on head injuries and overall player safety. Don Banks on SI said that if this was the NCAA the saints would lose their super bowl title as well.

dont we play the saints next year?

lets hope its early in the season

screw the saints, serves them right. they win 1 superbowl and they think they are the hottest sh*t ever.

Oh this entire punishment will crush their 2012 season and probably have far reaching effects into the next 2 or 3. This will be front page news, lawsuits and legal issues galore.


Originally posted by smithc28:
Sweet we've probably just jumped up a pick or two in the draft. BOOM it's all coming up Niners

In all seriousness it makes you wonder what will happen to that pick they traded to the Patriots, will the Patriots be compensated for it? Maybe receive an other future 1st or 2nd rounder since they traded one away so the saints could get Mark Ingram. This is going to get really complex but whatever happens the Saints will be obliterated by the punishment. The NFL will have to make an example of them, purely from a PR standpoint(over emphasis on player safety) let alone the fact that they were violating massive amounts of league rules with this program.



EDIT:
Not surprisingly the Twitterverse is showing us that many players are saying it is just a violent sport and people need to remember that (They are ignoring the CBA violations and legal ramifications of a violation in this nature OR possibly deflecting attention because their own team runs a bounty program and dont necessarily feel bad about the issue).

On the opposite end of the spectrum other players are condemning the "malicious nature" of the program while acknowledging the physicality of the sport.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM ]
They could lose all sorts maybe even all of them if someone wants to set an example. Now that would be tough punishment
Originally posted by djfullshred:
Originally posted by baltien:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by baltien:
Well, Tom Brady or nobody named 'Manning' got hurt so I'm sure Goodell will impose some meaningless fine just to make it look like he did something.

You are crazy if you thinks thats true

You are crazy if you think it's not true. I can't think of any QB's in the past 20 years that were coddled the way they are.

Edit: Or in the history of the league, now that I'm thinking about it.


If this blows up to front page news, the NFL will have no option but to be harsh in response. It is a PR nightmare for NFL to have the image of a bunch of thug hitmen getting paid to put people in the hospital.

It's already front page news on the Webz, the new news outlet. And now this:

Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora

Memo sent to NFL clubs notes an incident with Saints LB Jon Vilma putting up $10K cash for a pre-playoff bounty and also notes that, according to the memo, Sean Payton's agent, Mike Ornstein, put up money for a bounty on two occasions. Memo says the actions of Payton and GM Mickey Loomis serves as "conduct detrimental" to the game. Hard not to think steep punishment is coming

This is so huge, man. It's going to be awhile before this dies down. It's got some serious teeth and it's bitting hard!
I love how some think Brees will come to the Niners now if the Saints lose their ability to franchise. Haha. He would take up the rest of our cap space easily.
Take their 2nd and 3rd this year. And their 1st next year.