Originally posted by valrod33:
I meant to spike but even if you kneel The clock would stop when the refs called the penalty and wouldnt start until the ball was ready for play again. Either way this is all dumb and the NFL will have a rule next year to prevent this type of crap from happening
Like I said though, if there's a small enough amount of time left, even spikes + 5 yard penalties work to the defense's advantage. And besides, if you did decide to "only" have 1 or 2 extra defenders in instead of a bunch, then you're forcing the QB to have to count the defensive players in a hurried pre-snap panic to determine if he should spike it or not....lol, the last thing a QB wants to do while in desperation mode is have to count each individual defender.
And you're right, the NFL may make a rule change, but the bottom line is, as the rule stands now with only being a 5 yard penalty no matter how many guys you have on the field, this loophole could have been a real nice strategy with the rules as they currently are. And even if they do make 2 extra guys a 10 yard penalty, 3 extra a 15 yard penalty, etc., I still think it would make sense for coaches to accept the 5 yard variety with just the 12th man on the field.
BTW, isn't intentionally fouling at the end of basketball games to stop the clock technically gamesmanship? If you're up 1 with 10 seconds left with the ball, the other team can just purposely do something against the rules (commit a foul) to their advantage, since even if both free throws are made, now you get the ball back with a chance to tie. Kinda a similar concept if you think about it...or intentionally committing a foul to prevent an easy lay up and instead sending the guy to the line...or hackashaq...technically all are gamesmanship because you are intentionally and strategically doing something against the rules. Committing a foul is against the rules, that's why there's a penalty for it, it just so happens that the penalty may be less detrimental than the potential alternative, just like in this football example.