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Feb 7, 2012 at 5:18 PM

strat1080
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Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:21 PM

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niner4life21
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Originally posted by strat1080:

Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:46 PM

#63

Nes49
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With what Stafford did thi season - stat wise...hard to argue. I did wise Alex Smith won the award however. They shouldn't have combined the "Most Improved Player" & "Comeback Player" awards together. The Most Improved Player Award would have fit (Alex's) unique situation perfectly.

Feb 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM

#64

susweel
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Originally posted by niner4life21:
Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

this

Feb 8, 2012 at 10:06 AM

#65

blizzuntz
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Stafford had to throw for 6000 yards to earn the award.

He has to double Smith for it to be fair

Feb 8, 2012 at 10:20 AM

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vaden
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Originally posted by strat1080:

Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Very few QBs have thrown 663+ passes in a single season. Only 2 others in NFL history. About as many have had a WR playing at Calvin Johnson's level.
The 41 TDs are excellent, but there's nothing special about 7.5 YPA, especially in that offense.

Feb 8, 2012 at 1:45 PM

#67

RonMexico
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Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by strat1080:

Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

exf**kinactly

Feb 8, 2012 at 5:39 PM

#68

ImaMod
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Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by strat1080:
Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

exf**kinactly

Meh shaun hill put up the same numbers as him last year 2500 yards and 16 TDS in 9 healthy games OVERRRAAATTEEDDD

[ Edited by ImaMod on Feb 8, 2012 at 5:42 PM ]

Feb 9, 2012 at 4:40 AM

#69

blizzuntz
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Originally posted by ImaMod:
Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by strat1080:
Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

exf**kinactly

Meh shaun hill put up the same numbers as him last year 2500 yards and 16 TDS in 9 healthy games OVERRRAAATTEEDDD

How Does this stat make smith look better? Smith got 3000 in 16 healthy games.

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:29 AM

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vaden
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by ImaMod:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by strat1080:

Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

exf**kinactly

Meh shaun hill put up the same numbers as him last year 2500 yards and 16 TDS in 9 healthy games OVERRRAAATTEEDDD

How Does this stat make smith look better? Smith got 3000 in 16 healthy games.

Shaun Hill averaged 6.46 ypa, 28th that season. Smith averaged 6.93 ypa, 18th in 2010, and for 2011, 7.07/17th. Stafford ranked 13th, but OMGZ 5000 YARDS!!!!!!!!!

Feb 9, 2012 at 5:56 AM

#71

49ersalldaway126
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Originally posted by vaden:
Shaun Hill averaged 6.46 ypa, 28th that season. Smith averaged 6.93 ypa, 18th in 2010, and for 2011, 7.07/17th. Stafford ranked 13th, but OMGZ 5000 YARDS!!!!!!!!!

imagine if we didnt lead the league in dropped passes

Feb 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM

#72

horsecore
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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

Originally posted by vaden:
Shaun Hill averaged 6.46 ypa, 28th that season. Smith averaged 6.93 ypa, 18th in 2010, and for 2011, 7.07/17th. Stafford ranked 13th, but OMGZ 5000 YARDS!!!!!!!!!

imagine if we didnt lead the league in dropped passes

Or had some sticky handed receivers. I'm not saying that Smith would suddenly be in the 5000 yard range but watching other teams and their receivers makes me sad.

[ Edited by horsecore on Feb 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM ]

Feb 9, 2012 at 1:10 PM

#73

ImaMod
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by ImaMod:

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by niner4life21:

Originally posted by strat1080:

Originally posted by ImaMod:
I wouldnt unless Megatron comes with him...

look at this dude any QB can do throw the ball up. Stafford is so overrated if Shaun Hill can put up 2500 yards and 16 TDs in 9 healthy games

There is no way I can call a QB that throws for 5,000 yards and 40+ TDs overrated. Very few QBs have thrown for 40 TDs.

Niner Talk Rule #1:

Excuse Alex Smith from every mishap possible; detract anything possible from other successful quarterbacks.

exf**kinactly

Meh shaun hill put up the same numbers as him last year 2500 yards and 16 TDS in 9 healthy games OVERRRAAATTEEDDD

How Does this stat make smith look better? Smith got 3000 in 16 healthy games.

It doesnt. It makes Matt Stafford look overrated which is my point. I wasnt trying to make Alex look better, I'm trying to show the Stafford is overrated if Shaun freakin Hill can be that productive in the same offense