Son of Packers Offensive Coordinator found dead

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Originally posted by blizzuntz:

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Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:
Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:
Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:
Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

you could have been raped. you have no idea.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:
Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

you could have been raped. you have no idea.

haha hell nooo i remember being carried, riding in the bed of a truck... then the getting out of the truck.. then black... seen the front door i think i was thinking ok im safe. flop.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:
Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

you could have been raped. you have no idea.

haha hell nooo i remember being carried, riding in the bed of a truck... then the getting out of the truck.. then black... seen the front door i think i was thinking ok im safe. flop.

those girls must have remembered a little bit too, since he spent 6 months in jail for it.

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:

Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

you could have been raped. you have no idea.

haha hell nooo i remember being carried, riding in the bed of a truck... then the getting out of the truck.. then black... seen the front door i think i was thinking ok im safe. flop.

Was your ass sore and boxers missing? You's was raped

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:

Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

you could have been raped. you have no idea.

Exactly. That is the main reason punks rape passed out girls. They don't remember and don't know. Who knows how many times he has gotten away with it.

Was your ass sore and boxers missing? You's was raped

lmao

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by tjd808185:

Originally posted by SealTeam6:
Remember Mark Chumura, maybe it is something about Greenbay that makes Packers go after little girls. Hopefully he killed himself which is what Mark should have done too

Dude. He was 17. I really try not judge either way in cases like this. I'm certainly not going to look down on his tragic death because he might have taken advantage of a chick at a party.

With Chmura you're talking about a 30+ year old man at a high school party.

yah its tough to judge when you have 15 year old girls wanting to date 18-21 year olds... not to mention they end up at the same partys and get drunk as hell and then they are litterally taking there clothes off in a room asking for it..

sounds more like he was drugging girls and having sex with them.

Im sure everyone would be ok with that if it was their sister or mom

Not saying people are ok with it.. but when its the girls decisions well why is she acting that way?? Gotta raise your kids right and make sure your 15 year old daughter knows whats right and wrong and what could happen... sometimes as a parent things are outta your control and the kid is gonna be dumb either way which is why im saying theres just dumb girls out there.. i remember in highschool when i was a senior my junior girlfriends friend was dating a 20 year old and she was 16? and they were literally dating parents knew and all... its dumb, i grew up in the wrong generation lmao

he was 17, they were 16.

they were drunk and passed out.

ill tell yah tho i dont really believe in drunk and being so passed out you get rapped... I remember only 1 time i was like that i drank heavily but was just drunk.. when i was done for was when a friend brought a box of brownies and i was so hungry from hitting a bong earlier in the night that i ate id say 5-6 brownies and 10minutes later occured to me they were weed brownies... Needless to say i woke up at 6am on my front lawn.

you could have been raped. you have no idea.

haha hell nooo i remember being carried, riding in the bed of a truck... then the getting out of the truck.. then black... seen the front door i think i was thinking ok im safe. flop.

Was your ass sore and boxers missing? You's was raped

now that you think of it.... hold on im calling the doctor's office.

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

of course its rape

imagine if someone had sex with your wife or daughter or some crap like that of therye asleep or something

that is definitally rape no other way of putting it

I have raped my my wife several times according to your definition

marital rape is the most common form of rape

Except she would disagree and rather enjoys waking up in that scenario....

Really this passed out drunk raped business is BS imo. I have been very seriously alcohol poisoned skipping school and drinking takillya in Mexico all day. Hospitalized and endured an emergency stomach pumping, and was only 16 and I remember every waking moment. Its girls who get drunk, get nasty cause their inhibitions have dropped and then are ashamed come morning when they remember what little sluts they were the night before.

And save the "what if out were your daughter". I have 2 and out won't be cause im not raising little sluts.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
of course its rape

imagine if someone had sex with your wife or daughter or some crap like that of therye asleep or something

that is definitally rape no other way of putting it

I have raped my my wife several times according to your definition

marital rape is the most common form of rape

Except she would disagree and rather enjoys waking up in that scenario....

Really this passed out drunk raped business is BS imo. I have been very seriously alcohol poisoned skipping school and drinking takillya in Mexico all day. Hospitalized and endured an emergency stomach pumping, and was only 16 and I remember every waking moment. Its girls who get drunk, get nasty cause their inhibitions have dropped and then are ashamed come morning when they remember what little sluts they were the night before.

And save the "what if out were your daughter". I have 2 and out won't be cause im not raising little sluts.

see exactly this... when girls say i was just too drunk i dont remember.. if your girlfriend ever says that to you just walk away... Even when ive been passed out heavily drunk if im woken up im P***offed that someone woke me up because now that ive been woken up i know im gonna get the dizzys and throw up..

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by HessianDud:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:

of course its rape

imagine if someone had sex with your wife or daughter or some crap like that of therye asleep or something

that is definitally rape no other way of putting it

I have raped my my wife several times according to your definition

marital rape is the most common form of rape

Except she would disagree and rather enjoys waking up in that scenario....

Really this passed out drunk raped business is BS imo. I have been very seriously alcohol poisoned skipping school and drinking takillya in Mexico all day. Hospitalized and endured an emergency stomach pumping, and was only 16 and I remember every waking moment. Its girls who get drunk, get nasty cause their inhibitions have dropped and then are ashamed come morning when they remember what little sluts they were the night before.

And save the "what if out were your daughter". I have 2 and out won't be cause im not raising little sluts.

Bc you don't black out , must mean the whole world doesnt black out.

And bc you are not drugged, must mean the whole world has never been drugged.

Having sex with chicks that are drunk is cool, have sex with chicks that are so drunk theyre unconscious is wrong any way you look at it.

I feel really bad for anyone who has to bury their child, regardless if that child had made some stupid decisions. I'd lose my marbles if anything ever happened to my boy.

Originally posted by WINiner:
Except she would disagree and rather enjoys waking up in that scenario....

Really this passed out drunk raped business is BS imo. I have been very seriously alcohol poisoned skipping school and drinking takillya in Mexico all day. Hospitalized and endured an emergency stomach pumping, and was only 16 and I remember every waking moment. Its girls who get drunk, get nasty cause their inhibitions have dropped and then are ashamed come morning when they remember what little sluts they were the night before.

And save the "what if out were your daughter". I have 2 and out won't be cause im not raising little sluts.

You should just consider yourself lucky that you're not a cute girl because otherwise you'd be remembering being sexually assaulted as well. Just because you're aware of something doesn't mean you have the capacity to stop it. I agree with you to an extent, but there's a fine line here. It's ridiculous to think that just because a girl passed out due to alcohol poisoning that she's fair game.