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Taylor Mays traded to the Bengals

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There is no official word yet on the pick the 49ers acquired from the Cincinnati Bengals in the Taylor Mays trade. We do however, have our first unsubstantiated rumor courtesy of of Stripe Hype. The rumor is that the 49ers are getting a fourth round pick that could bump up to a third round pick if Mays plays in at least 80% of defensive snaps this season.

Until this rumor is substantiated, I find it questionable at best. The only reason I can believe such a rumor is if the Bengals felt they had no chance to get Mays on the free agency market, given that they are in fact the Cincinnati Bengals. If that's the case, then maybe I could see overpaying for a player they'd have under fairly inexpensive control through the 2013 season. He has base salaries that escalate to no higher than $575,000 and while I'm not certain, I don't think they would take the cap hit on his rookie signing bonus. I thought it was the trading team that took the hit, but I could be wrong.

If the 49ers do get this kind of pick, I'd say that's a fairly solid return when you hold little leverage. The team seemed intent on unloading Mays and likely would have cut him by the time rosters got down to 53 players. It's never fun to give up on a high pick, but getting something in return is better than nothing. More to come on this developing situation.
1) Stupid draft pick from prior regime
2) Trade for 4th round pick
3) Package some drafts picks and possible player and shove it down Raheem Morris' throat in exchange for Johnson
4) Profit
Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
1) Stupid draft pick from prior regime
2) Trade for 4th round pick
3) Package some drafts picks and possible player and shove it down Raheem Morris' throat in exchange for Johnson
4) Profit


I dont think its wise to trade picks for a 3rd string QB who is unlikely to play this year that we could easily get next year for cheap.
Well I guess it wouldnt mind if it was like when we traded a 7th round pick and Dorsey for Dilfer. Maybe give a 7th and McCown? Ha!
Originally posted by GoGetit:
First he wasn't given a chance early in camp. Trent made a huge blunder in sending out the email to the 31 teams because he was trying to get back at Sing. Our leadership in very unprofessional and green. We'll see how far Fangio and his defense last this season. I think Taylor handle himself with class and dignity. It shows that he comes from a high end family$. I for one wish him the best and I HOPE this comes back to haunt Trent and the rest of our administration. You don't treat people like this..even in business setting. You use the players strengths don't knock is weaknesses as an excuse.

That's quite a stereotype you have identified!
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by GoGetit:
First he wasn't given a chance early in camp. Trent made a huge blunder in sending out the email to the 31 teams because he was trying to get back at Sing. Our leadership in very unprofessional and green. We'll see how far Fangio and his defense last this season. I think Taylor handle himself with class and dignity. It shows that he comes from a high end family$. I for one wish him the best and I HOPE this comes back to haunt Trent and the rest of our administration. You don't treat people like this..even in business setting. You use the players strengths don't knock is weaknesses as an excuse.

That's quite a stereotype you have identified!

that dude's whole post is funny. Trent wouldn't have put him on the block unless Fangio decided he couldnt cover and make plays on the ball. Mays is lucky that Trent made an effort to deal him early so he could catch on with another team, rather than dumping him at the end of preseason.
It'd be awesome to get a 3rd, but sounds like it'll be a 4th. I'll still be happy with a 5th, or even a 7th since the writing was on the wall that he wasn't going to make the team. Whatever pick it is, it should be very early in the round.

I wish him he best and hope he can find a place and position to carve out a productive career.
I feel like Baalke should be taking more heat for this.

I don't care how much Singletary yelled. Baalke was still the GM that drafted Mays in the second round.

Either Baalke made the pick, or he wasn't in charge of his own draft. Either way he has to take blame for totally wasting a high pick.
Wasn't the Draft Board already official before Baalke became GM a week or two before the draft?
Originally posted by 5280High:
Originally posted by 49erRider:
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
4th rd pick pending physical

So we're getting a 4th round pick after trading away a 4th last year for no reason, so now we're just down a 2nd rounder.

Thanks Singletary.

A) tracked that source of the 4th round rumor down to a poster on 49ers.com who said he talked to his buddy inside the organization... so it could be complete BS. However, the fact there were 5 inquiries and 3 offers means we probably got a 5th or better IMO. But again so far the only facts reporters have published are who offered, not what they offered.

B) Any draft pick for a player who was about to be cut is a win in my book. These coaches had no ties to him, if he didnt fit then ship him out.

Understood. However, my complaint was Singletary wasting the 2nd round pick on him in the first place.
Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Wasn't the Draft Board already official before Baalke became GM a week or two before the draft?

Baalke had shared responsibilities with Singletary.

He wasn't officially hired as GM until this past offseason.
f**k for real, dammit who the f**k is going to teach this team how to dougie because reggie smith cant.
[ Edited by stunder49 on Aug 23, 2011 at 1:28 AM ]
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
I feel like Baalke should be taking more heat for this.

I don't care how much Singletary yelled. Baalke was still the GM that drafted Mays in the second round.

Either Baalke made the pick, or he wasn't in charge of his own draft. Either way he has to take blame for totally wasting a high pick.

A good GM picks the way his coach wants to. Usually the ciach knows the best what kind of players he needs, exeoct if you're the coach of the Raders then you have a bunch Track&Fileld guys in pads
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
I feel like Baalke should be taking more heat for this.

I don't care how much Singletary yelled. Baalke was still the GM that drafted Mays in the second round.

Either Baalke made the pick, or he wasn't in charge of his own draft. Either way he has to take blame for totally wasting a high pick.

I think he'd be the first person to tell you he made a mistake with the pick with the pick.
So what do we get?
Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
I feel like Baalke should be taking more heat for this.

I don't care how much Singletary yelled. Baalke was still the GM that drafted Mays in the second round.

Either Baalke made the pick, or he wasn't in charge of his own draft. Either way he has to take blame for totally wasting a high pick.

He wasn't the GM. I don't know where people get the idea that Baalke was a GM last year? McC dropped from the Niners about 2 months from the draft last year and Baalke was just filling in as a interim GM. He certainly did not have the final say on matters, as Singletary still held control over the roster, he was merely an caretaker of sorts that was to make sure the organization didn't fall apart till they could perform a real search for a GM.

Baalke wasn't hired to be the GM until this last off-season. Remember all the drama surrounding his hiring? Remember Jed talking about searching under every rock to find the best GM for the position? Remember Michael Lombardi slamming the Niners for their sham search?

In other words, IT WASN'T HIS OWN DRAFT... he assisted in it, but certainly did not have final say.