Pete King Tweeted this earlier:
RT @triple3jrb: You would take revis over P.Willis? ... Every day. Twice on Sunday. CBs far more important than ILBs.
I completely disagree A CB can be taken out a game by avoiding to throwing to his side. A ILB is in on every play and calling plays.
I know we are all P52 Homers. But would you take Revis over Willis?
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Willis vs Revis
Aug 19, 2010 at 11:08 AM
- Hollywood49er
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Aug 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM
- mcbaes72
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Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Pete King Tweeted this earlier:
RT @triple3jrb: You would take revis over P.Willis? ... Every day. Twice on Sunday. CBs far more important than ILBs.
I completely disagree A CB can be taken out a game by avoiding to throwing to his side. A ILB is in on every play and calling plays.
I know we are all P52 Homers. But would you take Revis over Willis?
I'll take PWillis, too...every day, twice on Sunday. PK doesn't know $hit!
Aug 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM
- tjd808185
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Willis has the better attitude and corners tend to have a short stint of complete dominance.
Willis
Willis
Aug 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM
- 9erfanAUS
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lol I tried to have a legitimate discussion on this the other day in NT. It went nowhere.
I think that it's a tough decision, but I would take Revis over Willis. I say this because:
1. Passing attacks are much more predominant.
2. Not double teaming a WR will help in the run game - safeties can play close to box.
3. I feel that it's easier to find a good LB than it is to find a good CB.
Again, I think it's close. But I would take the CB.
-9fA
I think that it's a tough decision, but I would take Revis over Willis. I say this because:
1. Passing attacks are much more predominant.
2. Not double teaming a WR will help in the run game - safeties can play close to box.
3. I feel that it's easier to find a good LB than it is to find a good CB.
Again, I think it's close. But I would take the CB.
-9fA
Aug 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM
- WillistheWall
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Peter King's a hating douchebag. Give me Willis, he can shut down an opponents run game and a defense built around an ILB is usually more succesful than one built around a CB. Look at the Ravens building a dominant D around Ray Ray for 10+ years. Plus Willis wasn't unreasonable and wanted to get an extension.
Aug 19, 2010 at 12:06 PM
- DarthNiner
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I'm sure you guys remember Deion Sanders when he played for the Niners in '94. He pretty much allowed the defense to play 3/4 of the field.
Another example is Ray Lewis. When he didn't have Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams in front of him, he struggled. His position is dependent on the big ugglies in front of him.
Sorry to be a non-homer, but a shutdown cornerback is more important than a great ILB in the defensive scheme. That is also reflective on the amount of money that the best in each position makes.
Patrick Willis, ILB, 2010: $5,185,000
Ray Lewis, ILB, 2009: $10,000,000
Champ Bailey, CB, 2010: $13,000,000
Nnamdi Asamougha, CB, 2010: $15,000,000 (3 year average)
CB>ILB
Another example is Ray Lewis. When he didn't have Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams in front of him, he struggled. His position is dependent on the big ugglies in front of him.
Sorry to be a non-homer, but a shutdown cornerback is more important than a great ILB in the defensive scheme. That is also reflective on the amount of money that the best in each position makes.
Patrick Willis, ILB, 2010: $5,185,000
Ray Lewis, ILB, 2009: $10,000,000
Champ Bailey, CB, 2010: $13,000,000
Nnamdi Asamougha, CB, 2010: $15,000,000 (3 year average)
CB>ILB
Aug 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM
- NineFourNiner
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First, PK is a douche.
Second, as a rule, CB>ILB.
Third, Revis has a smaller body of work to consider, while PW has rocked it every year.
Thus, largely because of #3 above, I got PW.
Second, as a rule, CB>ILB.
Third, Revis has a smaller body of work to consider, while PW has rocked it every year.
Thus, largely because of #3 above, I got PW.
Aug 19, 2010 at 12:16 PM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Pete King Tweeted this earlier:
RT @triple3jrb: You would take revis over P.Willis? ... Every day. Twice on Sunday. CBs far more important than ILBs.
I completely disagree A CB can be taken out a game by avoiding to throwing to his side. A ILB is in on every play and calling plays.
I know we are all P52 Homers. But would you take Revis over Willis?
But if you don't throw to that Cb's side that's not taking him out of the game at all. That means he has shut down one side of the field giving the offense limited options.
If Willis wasn't in a 3-4 it would be different story, but i'd take a Cb over a 3-4 ILB any day too. Just like King said I just think that position is more important and harder to fill. I don't think Willis even calls the plays Goldson does, but i could be wrong on that. Either way i'm glad Willis isn't holding out for 17 million a year or pressed to be the highest paid linebacker.
Aug 19, 2010 at 12:18 PM
- tjd808185
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If I asked you guys to tell me the best corner in the league you'd have a different answer every single season. You can be an excellent corner for a long time, but they seem to come back to the pack pretty quickly.
Aug 19, 2010 at 12:39 PM
- saj4423
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For me it would come down to if I took Willis who would I have playing CB or if I took Revis who would my LB be? But being a homer I would take Willis everyday of the week.
Aug 19, 2010 at 10:15 PM
- sincalfaithful
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Originally posted by DarthNiner:
I'm sure you guys remember Deion Sanders when he played for the Niners in '94. He pretty much allowed the defense to play 3/4 of the field.
Another example is Ray Lewis. When he didn't have Tony Siragusa and Sam Adams in front of him, he struggled. His position is dependent on the big ugglies in front of him.
Sorry to be a non-homer, but a shutdown cornerback is more important than a great ILB in the defensive scheme. That is also reflective on the amount of money that the best in each position makes.
Patrick Willis, ILB, 2010: $5,185,000
Ray Lewis, ILB, 2009: $10,000,000
Champ Bailey, CB, 2010: $13,000,000
Nnamdi Asamougha, CB, 2010: $15,000,000 (3 year average)
CB>ILB
His salary is a joke. Al Davis is on his nutsack thats why he makes so much money
Aug 19, 2010 at 10:19 PM
- DaDivaRecieva15
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I'm really getting sick of Peter King
Aug 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM
- sincalfaithful
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Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
I'm really getting sick of Peter King
this.
Aug 19, 2010 at 10:53 PM
- nicedraw94080
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Forget strategy, x's & o's, money, endorsements, position...
If i'm starting a football team, I want a P-Willis/Ray Lewis caliber LB to be the leader of my team. In every aspect.
If i'm starting a football team, I want a P-Willis/Ray Lewis caliber LB to be the leader of my team. In every aspect.
Aug 19, 2010 at 10:57 PM
- nicedraw94080
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Originally posted by nicedraw94080:
Forget strategy, x's & o's, money, endorsements, position...
If i'm starting a football team, I want a P-Willis/Ray Lewis caliber LB to be the leader of my team. In every aspect.
Also, What team was led to winning a Super Bowl by a DB ??
[ Edited by nicedraw94080 on Aug 19, 2010 at 22:58:56 ]