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Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

[ Edited by lamontb on Jan 15, 2010 at 09:53:23 ]
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McNabb isn't an elite quarterback. He might not even be a top 10 quarterback. But he is a legitimate starting quarterback.

You can win football games with Donovan McNabb under center and the defense will actually respect Donovan McNabb.

Replace Alex Smith this year with Donovan, and we go 11-5 at worst instead of 8-8.
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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Alex Smith wouldn't lead us anywhere even with the 2000 Ravens defense.

At some point, you need a legitimate quarterback to compete in this league.


prove it
A perfect example of throwing an idea on the wall and hoping it sticks.

Mike & Mike must have caught the webzone n00b disease.
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by Legbreaker:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Legbreaker:
Normally, I enjoy listening to Mike & Mike.

After hearing that this is their opinion....well, I think that they are quite possibly the least intelligent football minds in mainstream sports media.

The guy does not make sense for the Niners at all. McNabb plays in a different style of offense, played Pop Warner with Moses, and is a massive injury risk.

Worth a trade? F*CK NO!



Raye is expandable. If McNabb is available we'd be morons not to get him.

Expandable? Is he reversible, too?

Bro, McNabb isn't the answer for this team. Switching the offense to fit an aging player that will maybe get you one winning season is an absolutely ridiculous idea.

Well at least someone thought about this before they posted. Alex's PCT was 60.5. Mcnabbs was 60.3. Why trade for a guy who's Pct is worse on a better team with better talent around and a oline who can block. if we traded for mcnabb he have to learn a new play book, it took him forever to learn the west coast what makes you think he's going to pick up the digit system. also he'll be playing with less talent and a weaker oline his pct would be 55.5 at best.

Great post if it was factually true.

McNabb was in the playoff his 2nd season. What are you talking about that it took him forever to pick up the offense?

His line is overrated. They can't run for sh*t in Philly, and they were banged up for a good part of the season.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.

it's funny people think Great QB grow no trees you might get one or two per decade most teams have to build around QBs who are just Goood
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.

it's funny people think Great QB grow no trees you might get one or two per decade most teams have to build around QBs who are just Goood

True but you're in a thread were people are saying no to a very good QB in Donovan McNabb. You guys want to break down stats. Here's one. Donovan has one the least INTs per pass attempt in the history of the NFL. What should that tell you? Yes, you can build a winning balanced offense around the guy.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.

it's funny people think Great QB grow no trees you might get one or two per decade most teams have to build around QBs who are just Goood

True but you're in a thread were people are saying no to a very good QB in Donovan McNabb. You guys want to break down stats. Here's one. Donovan has one the least INTs per pass attempt in the history of the NFL. What should that tell you? Yes, you can build a winning balanced offense around the guy.

I for one think hes a good QB but go back and look at my very first post on this matter

Not worth it

He's almost a decade older than Smith
Not worth what it would take to get him

Oh and did you know Tom Brady is a free agent next year

lol
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.

it's funny people think Great QB grow no trees you might get one or two per decade most teams have to build around QBs who are just Goood

True but you're in a thread were people are saying no to a very good QB in Donovan McNabb. You guys want to break down stats. Here's one. Donovan has one the least INTs per pass attempt in the history of the NFL. What should that tell you? Yes, you can build a winning balanced offense around the guy.

I for one think hes a good QB but go back and look at my very first post on this matter

Not worth it

He's almost a decade older than Smith
Not worth what it would take to get him

Oh and did you know Tom Brady is a free agent next year


lol


i just came
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.

it's funny people think Great QB grow no trees you might get one or two per decade most teams have to build around QBs who are just Goood

True but you're in a thread were people are saying no to a very good QB in Donovan McNabb. You guys want to break down stats. Here's one. Donovan has one the least INTs per pass attempt in the history of the NFL. What should that tell you? Yes, you can build a winning balanced offense around the guy.

I for one think hes a good QB but go back and look at my very first post on this matter

Not worth it

He's almost a decade older than Smith
Not worth what it would take to get him

Oh and did you know Tom Brady is a free agent next year

lol

Tom may be a free agent next year but the odds that he's anywhere but NE is lower than 0%.

I'd trade a 1st rounder for McNabb anyday. Here's the thing about Alex. Nobody wants to resign him. Basically everybody here knows he's going to flop and we'll be moving on anyways. Let's just do that right now.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
Take away Brady and Peyton then look at the super bowl winning QB’s

Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Rothlesbuger
Eli Manning

Ok QB’s with great D’s don't need to waist picks or money on McNabb

Big Ben is much better than ok especially in the 4th quarter in crunch time Brad Johnson played in a super bowl in which his defense knew every single play the Raiders were doing. Eli played like an elite Qb during his championship run. That just leaves Dilfer, who played with the greatest single season defense anybody has ever seen. You need an elite QB to win 9 times out of 10. The Niners defense isn't on that level to lead a average qb to the super bowl.

Everybody wants to be Ravens nevermind the fact that for having the one of the greatest defenses of all time they've really underachieved. 4 seasons this decade below .500.

Moral of the story is you wanna be a constant winner like the Colts get yourself a QB.

why is everyone so narrow minded you need

Great Offense and Good Defense

Or

Great Defense and Good Offense

You can't have a great offense without a franchise QB. People are terrified to move beyond Smith so instead they run for the Baltimore route to success.

I'd love to have both, but that's not going to happen until we ditch Alex.

it's funny people think Great QB grow no trees you might get one or two per decade most teams have to build around QBs who are just Goood

True but you're in a thread were people are saying no to a very good QB in Donovan McNabb. You guys want to break down stats. Here's one. Donovan has one the least INTs per pass attempt in the history of the NFL. What should that tell you? Yes, you can build a winning balanced offense around the guy.

I for one think hes a good QB but go back and look at my very first post on this matter

Not worth it

He's almost a decade older than Smith
Not worth what it would take to get him

Oh and did you know Tom Brady is a free agent next year

lol

Tom may be a free agent next year but the odds that he's anywhere but NE is lower than 0%.

I'd trade a 1st rounder for McNabb anyday. Here's the thing about Alex. Nobody wants to resign him. Basically everybody here knows he's going to flop and we'll be moving on anyways. Let's just do that right now.

That's not true. That's YOUR, and a handful of other people's, PERSPECTIVES. He has just as good of shot at doing well as he does at failing IMO. If he can give us 25 TDs and 14 INTs and 3000 yards over a season, which would be this season over a whole season with 2 or 3 less INTs, is a realistic stat line for him IMO. I don't see how that's failing.