Is it safe to call Reggie Bush a bust?

Originally posted by miked1978:
Bust... NO!!!
Hasn't lived up to expectations... YES!!!

To me a bust is someone drafted real high and is out of the league in a few years bc they sucked. Reggie is the starting RB for the Saints this year and he's been in the league for a few years.

According ot the OP criteria of a bust, half the players drafted in the first round are busts.

thank you. Literally half of 1st rd draft picks are not even productive in the NFL. Busthood should be limited to that half, which Bush is not a member of.

disclaimer - QB's kind of have a different criteria

Originally posted by ads_2006:
I say safe, because when I discuss this with friends, they get defensive.

He was picked number 2 overall, hasnt produced, and couldnt beat out pierre thomas and duece mccallsiter (sp?).

I mean, he hasnt done anything for a number 2 overall pick.

Yes I consider alex smith and vernon busts (but I still hope they can produce somehow)

When you look at his stats healthy you cant call the guy a bust. His rookie year he had like 5 TDs and over 150 yds vs us. Plus his rookie season was NO only good season really imo. They were healthy and effective on D as well as on offense. 07 n 08 well the whole team has been pretty bad/gimpy and you really cant fault the guy for it either. They stay healthy as a team as well as Bush the guy has very good potential to be a pro bowler as a RB,WR or KR/PR but most likely as all 3. VD and Alex Couch are 1000000 times more bust worthy than Bush. If he was a 49er this thread about him wouldnt even come up. So no imo it isnt safe to call Bush a bust its more retarded than safe my friend.

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by krizay:
Food for thought.

The Frank Gore poll shows 90% of this board having Frank Gore atleast in the top 10.

Frank Gore averages 99 yards from scrimmage a game since joining the NFL with 26 total TD's in 59 games.

Reggie Bush averages 83 yards from scrimmage a game. with 24 td's in only 38 games.


Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games


So one is top 10 RB and the other is a bust?

yeah, and Bush has Bress at QB and Gore has had Dilfer, Smith, Hill, Dorsey, etc... at QB.

And a good amount of bush's td's are from returns.

But for the question, yes at this point he hasnt lived up to huis expectations.

While Gore has proven he wasnt a reach or a bust in the 3rd round.

only 1/6 (4) has come from returns. So even without his return TD's he's still averaging more TD's per game than Gore.

So you discredit Bush because of Brees? Do you discredit Jerry Rice because of Montana & Young?

what's up with all these reggie bush haters..???

No

Originally posted by miked1978:
Bust... NO!!!
Hasn't lived up to expectations... YES!!!

To me a bust is someone drafted real high and is out of the league in a few years bc they sucked. Reggie is the starting RB for the Saints this year and he's been in the league for a few years.

According ot the OP criteria of a bust, half the players drafted in the first round are busts.

I believe Pierre Thomas is starting

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by krizay:
Food for thought.

The Frank Gore poll shows 90% of this board having Frank Gore atleast in the top 10.

Frank Gore averages 99 yards from scrimmage a game since joining the NFL with 26 total TD's in 59 games.

Reggie Bush averages 83 yards from scrimmage a game. with 24 td's in only 38 games.


Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games


So one is top 10 RB and the other is a bust?

yeah, and Bush has Bress at QB and Gore has had Dilfer, Smith, Hill, Dorsey, etc... at QB.

And a good amount of bush's td's are from returns.

But for the question, yes at this point he hasnt lived up to huis expectations.

While Gore has proven he wasnt a reach or a bust in the 3rd round.

only 1/6 (4) has come from returns. So even without his return TD's he's still averaging more TD's per game than Gore.

So you discredit Bush because of Brees? Do you discredit Jerry Rice because of Montana & Young?

Lendale white has 22 TD's in less games than bush, does that mean he is better than gore also. You have to look at the situation. Gore has accounted for a good chunk of the 49ers offense, from yards to TD's.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by krizay:
Food for thought.

The Frank Gore poll shows 90% of this board having Frank Gore atleast in the top 10.

Frank Gore averages 99 yards from scrimmage a game since joining the NFL with 26 total TD's in 59 games.

Reggie Bush averages 83 yards from scrimmage a game. with 24 td's in only 38 games.


Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games


So one is top 10 RB and the other is a bust?

yeah, and Bush has Bress at QB and Gore has had Dilfer, Smith, Hill, Dorsey, etc... at QB.

And a good amount of bush's td's are from returns.

But for the question, yes at this point he hasnt lived up to huis expectations.

While Gore has proven he wasnt a reach or a bust in the 3rd round.

only 1/6 (4) has come from returns. So even without his return TD's he's still averaging more TD's per game than Gore.

So you discredit Bush because of Brees? Do you discredit Jerry Rice because of Montana & Young?

all im saying is Gore hasnt had the QB play that Bush has had in his career, but al im saying is he(bush) hasnt lived up ton his bil, as being so hyped, and being portrayed as a Every Down Back, and a great RB who will be one of the great of all time, im sorry, but a situational, non all around back is not a great one IMO.

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by krizay:
Food for thought.

The Frank Gore poll shows 90% of this board having Frank Gore atleast in the top 10.

Frank Gore averages 99 yards from scrimmage a game since joining the NFL with 26 total TD's in 59 games.

Reggie Bush averages 83 yards from scrimmage a game. with 24 td's in only 38 games.


Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games


So one is top 10 RB and the other is a bust?

yeah, and Bush has Bress at QB and Gore has had Dilfer, Smith, Hill, Dorsey, etc... at QB.

And a good amount of bush's td's are from returns.

But for the question, yes at this point he hasnt lived up to huis expectations.

While Gore has proven he wasnt a reach or a bust in the 3rd round.

it shouldn't matter who has who. if bush gets the job done thats all that matters..

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by krizay:
Food for thought.

The Frank Gore poll shows 90% of this board having Frank Gore atleast in the top 10.

Frank Gore averages 99 yards from scrimmage a game since joining the NFL with 26 total TD's in 59 games.

Reggie Bush averages 83 yards from scrimmage a game. with 24 td's in only 38 games.


Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games


So one is top 10 RB and the other is a bust?

yeah, and Bush has Bress at QB and Gore has had Dilfer, Smith, Hill, Dorsey, etc... at QB.

And a good amount of bush's td's are from returns.

But for the question, yes at this point he hasnt lived up to huis expectations.

While Gore has proven he wasnt a reach or a bust in the 3rd round.

good greif...so now That he has a Good amount of his TD on special teams...you think that TAKES AWAY FROM HIS VALUE?


Dude.... HALF THE TEAMS IN THE NFL WOULD GLADLY SINK A 10 PICK in a Player that is a game changer on offense and Can SCORE TDs on special teams...

Originally posted by Thizz415:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by AB83Rules:

Originally posted by krizay:
Food for thought.

The Frank Gore poll shows 90% of this board having Frank Gore atleast in the top 10.

Frank Gore averages 99 yards from scrimmage a game since joining the NFL with 26 total TD's in 59 games.

Reggie Bush averages 83 yards from scrimmage a game. with 24 td's in only 38 games.


Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games


So one is top 10 RB and the other is a bust?

yeah, and Bush has Bress at QB and Gore has had Dilfer, Smith, Hill, Dorsey, etc... at QB.

And a good amount of bush's td's are from returns.

But for the question, yes at this point he hasnt lived up to huis expectations.

While Gore has proven he wasnt a reach or a bust in the 3rd round.

only 1/6 (4) has come from returns. So even without his return TD's he's still averaging more TD's per game than Gore.

So you discredit Bush because of Brees? Do you discredit Jerry Rice because of Montana & Young?

Lendale white has 22 TD's in less games than bush, does that mean he is better than gore also. You have to look at the situation. Gore has accounted for a good chunk of the 49ers offense, from yards to TD's.

I thought I took into account yards from scrimmage and TD's. not sure what you're arguing

Gore 99 yards pg, 26 td's in 59 games
Bush 83 yards pg, 24 td's in 38 games

Lendale averages 51 totals yards pg 22 td's in 45 games.


How does this help your point at all?

The guy has production and is extremely versatile, IDK how you can call that a bust!

Originally posted by Chief:
Kim Kardashian = win

He can do better then that ho. Why do these celebs play "pass the whore" with each other? They can get any respectable woman they want. Or can't they?

And yes, he is a bust. An RB taken that high should produce high numbers. RB is the easiest position to play. All the pre draft hype about bush plus the fact that MArio Williams is a stud means that Bush was a bust. They should have picked Mario. They would have a dominant pass rusher for years instead of a broken change of pace RB playing behind bigger backs.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jun 27, 2009 at 02:48:57 ]

No. Kid is a monster. Did you watch that game he owned us a couple years back?

bust? NO

failed to live up to his hype? YES

[ Edited by 49ersalldaway126 on Jun 27, 2009 at 08:52:18 ]