Who got the better end of the JAY CUTLER trade?

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by crzy:
Denver didn't win this trade.

They traded a franchise quarterback for two players who theoretically could be good players.

Bears won easily.

Great. Cutler instead of throwing 18 INTs in Denver... He can throw 30 INTs in Chicago. Great Pick up!!!

He's not going to be airing it out 50 times per game in Chicago, so he won't throw that many interceptions.

He'll actually have an elite running game with Forte.

elite....

over 1200 yards and 8TDs as a rookie.

Yes, elite.

and 500 yards receiving with 4 TDs.

socalfan, do you actually follow the NFL?

Originally posted by WillistheWall:
The Broncos and it's not close. They get a starting QB in Orton, and 2 first round picks, and a 3rd round pick. Everyone knows Cutler>Orton. But Orton actually had a better record last year with a worse supporting cast offensively, so is Cutler so much better than Orton that the difference is 3 total picks, 2 in the 1st round? I don't think so. The Broncos are going to have 2 first round picks in each of the next 2 years, so they can rebuild their defense and pick their own guys. They're going to be able to get whoever they want on draft day.


I know Cutler's numbers were sick, but he was playing QB for a genius coach in Shanahan, with Brandon Marshall and Edde Royal. He's now going to a team whose best WR is Devin Hester, who might not even be the 3rd best WR on the broncos, his offensive line is still being built, and he's playing for a defensive coach. There's NO WAY he puts up 4500 yards and 25 TDs next year. No chance. Now lets see how Orton does now that he has some real receivers, a decent OL, and he plays in McDaniel's QB friendly offense.

you make some really great points. I still think Cutler is a pretty special player, but your reasoning in this is pretty sound. However, the draft is a gamble, so it'll be a few years to judge this regardless of how we feel about it now.

So far, it's a push IMO.

Once Lovie Dovie learns how to utilize a quality QB, it will become clear that Cutler is one of the top QBs in the league.

Denver got some draft choices that may turn out well, but they also had to take Kyle Orton.

Chicago got the better deal. Denver mismanaged this situation almost as poorly as Mike Nolan mismanaged Smith, but it will cost them much more.

Once the Bears get Cutler some weapons this wouldn't even be a debate.

Three years down the line everyone will agree the Bears won this trade.

Cutler is looking sharp out there with no running game..

Bears.

Broncos. You can't have it both ways. The broncos gained two 1st rd choices but they are draft choices that might not pan out. Teams find potential starters at any position in the first three rounds. The bears can't be hopeful of a draft choice panning out. The bears have to hope that they lure a top FA when all other teams have an equal chance to sign the same FA. Of course the bears can hope that the 5th rounder they picked up can turn out to be special.

You can't give your 1st rounders away and hope to improve over time. The bears window of opportunity from this trade is this year and next year. Any success the broncos have this year is a bonus.

what are you laughing at?

Whoever got the best player is the team that got the better of the trade.