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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.

Hey MD, is there going to be a shakeup in the Safety position with Barrett's and Demp's 40 (4.38) and Kenny Phillips looking slow?
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Oh so DRC ran an official time of 4.33. That makes me feel a little better since it is closer to the other CBs. I thought he ran an official 4.28, which would make him go even higher. Hey guys, lets start a negative rumor about him and leak it to the press, and if we all get our stories straight (he does crack from time to time when he is not smoking weed down in Tennessee), he could fall to us. We'll let Nolan know it was made up. Problem solved. We have our man.
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.

Well put me in the list of people that didn't think DRC could run THAT fast. He proved himself today. I think without question he is in the top two taken. However, i think it will be between him and Mike Jenkins (who ran a 4.38) same as McKelvin. But Mike Jenkins did it against better competition. And Mike can actually catch the balls that come near him.

So in the end, it will go:

Jenkins
DRC
McKelvin
Cason
Talib
Originally posted by Canuck9er:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
As good as Staley is, DRC has more potential would be a more correct thing to say.

Although Staley plays a position of more importance and need for us and has already proven his value. It's not DRC that makes me wish we had our 7th round pick back.

Would you really want to be looking for 2 good OT's as opposed to just 1? DRC has more flash (and I want him badly) but Staley was the correct investment. I would feel more confident with Nolan and the O if we get a starter worthy RT, the line would be set for years and Alex and Frank would have the protection the desperately need. I know how high of a commodity DRC looks but I'm sure next year there will be some kid thats just as amazing. Plus depending on draft day he may be there. Teams have greater needs then just a good CB.

Next year's crop of OTs may suck, while this year's is loaded with talent. Our OL is depleted with L. Allen and K. Harris gone and JJ on his way, so it makes good sense to get a stud RT like Nicks while he's available and at a good position in the draft. Our D-line is depleted, too, so I see two D-linemen and two OL coming to us via the draft.

Exactly, I would rather grab a good OT now and worry about other stuff later. Next year if both OT's look and perform well the only spot we would need to fill would be either a G or C which would be pretty easy and could be done later. I trust Nolan and he's no dummy when it comes to drafting. Plus drafting a kid later saves a ton of money compared to grabbing a good FA RT. But the chips haven't fallen yet and I'm sure were gonna see at least 1 big surprise in the draft!
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.

I agree with pretty much everything you said here. I will even say that had it not been for some off the field issues, Mike Jenkins would probably be no.2 CB after Leodis. If some team chooses to ignore that, he will be a top 10-12 pick on their board. As for DRC, he put on a show today, and 40 time helps, but I don't know if you jump from bottom of 1st or early 2nd to top 7. I think he will probably go between 14-19 but yea, we don't have any shot at him unless something crazy happens.
I am really hoping for Porter to fall to Niners, as I think he will be ideal player opposite Nate. I wonder how Justin King did in his interviews, I think more than anything, his interviews were most important to improve his stock. Everyone expected him to run 4.35, so atleast he didn't dissapoint there.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.

Hey MD, is there going to be a shakeup in the Safety position with Barrett's and Demp's 40 (4.38) and Kenny Phillips looking slow?

Sure. I've been changing up the board this week, and Barrett and Demps will move up. Although Phillips will move down the board, I still believe that he is a first round prospect. I want to see his official time.
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Well, the final day of the combine is never a letdown with the CB's. Here are some notes on the players who seemed to solidify, raise, or lose stock. It is a festival of little-known or small school guys.

First, the winner for today was Rodgers-Cromartie, who appears to be the complete package. He's tall, ran well in drills, and blistered a fast 40 at an official 4.33. Tom Shaw's camp really does a great job of preparing players for the combine. I think that Rodgers-Cromartie jumps into the top 20 picks, but behind.....

Troy's Leodis McKelvin, who ran fast at an official 4.38, and looked dynamite in drills. Although shorter than Rodgers-Cromartie, McKelvin has the best chance to be the first CB off the board.

After both McKelvin and DRC (as known on this board), the third slot should fall to Mike Jenkins, who ran a solid 4.38, and looked sharp in drills. Some character issues have popped up that might cause Jenkins to slide toward the bottom end of round 1, but he is a true talent.

The last possible CB to make the first round is Indiana's Tracy Porter. A couple of weeks ago, I relayed some information I had from a friend in the NFL who said that Porter was trying to run a 4.30. He thought the number would be under 4.35. When Porter's unofficial number was posted at 4.45, I was shocked. However, the official number moved the right direction to 4.37. Not the fastest, but in the top five.

Tyvon Branch and Orlando Scandrick have been moving up board this offseason, and with the best times this session (along with Justin King), will both possibly crack the top 100 picks. Scandrick has been watched very closely by the Browns, and they could pick him as early as the third round.

Justin King is a head scratcher. All the talent in the world, but he did not perform well in 2007. His 4.31 will have coaches and scouts reviewing tape day and night. He's a very immature young man, but has a world of talent.

Josh Barrett's time at 4.35 might be the most impressive at the entire combine. The guy weighs nearly 225 pounds. Good for him.

Hey MD, is there going to be a shakeup in the Safety position with Barrett's and Demp's 40 (4.38) and Kenny Phillips looking slow?

Sure. I've been changing up the board this week, and Barrett and Demps will move up. Although Phillips will move down the board, I still believe that he is a first round prospect. I want to see his official time.

When does the new Big Board come out? It's not done already? Come on, hurry up.
how much does it hurt DRC that he didn't play at a big time school? (note: i'm just looking for any hope that he will be there at 29) Or is it possible we trade up, I kinda hope we don't
im 1 of the biggest cromartie fans and am dyin for him to sport the red and gold come april but lets let it go fellas hes gone time to move on
Originally posted by maximill15:
how much does it hurt DRC that he didn't play at a big time school? (note: i'm just looking for any hope that he will be there at 29) Or is it possible we trade up, I kinda hope we don't

IMO...that's what's going to keep him from being the first CB off the board. He'll still be gone well before we come up to the podium.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Josh Barrett at 6'1 223 lbs ran a 4.35 40 .

DRC ran a 4.33!!! definitely gone before we draft now.

OMG. what round is barrett projected to go in??
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Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Josh Barrett at 6'1 223 lbs ran a 4.35 40 .

DRC ran a 4.33!!! definitely gone before we draft now.

OMG. what round is barrett projected to go in??

Barrett has been projected anywhere from the 3rd to the 6th. He was falling before the combine for good reason. He had a really bad senior season and never played up to his athletic ability. Even as an ASU homer, I wouldn't take him until the 5th, he just doesn't play up to his potential and gets hurt too much.

I could have told you he was going to blaze. Our speedy RB Keegan Herring, a former track star and supposed fastest player on the team lost a 40 yard foot race like a year or two ago to Josh Barrett, and had to shave a mohawk as a result.
Originally posted by NYSunDevil49er:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Josh Barrett at 6'1 223 lbs ran a 4.35 40 .

DRC ran a 4.33!!! definitely gone before we draft now.

OMG. what round is barrett projected to go in??

Barrett has been projected anywhere from the 3rd to the 6th. He was falling before the combine for good reason. He had a really bad senior season and never played up to his athletic ability. Even as an ASU homer, I wouldn't take him until the 5th, he just doesn't play up to his potential and gets hurt too much.

I could have told you he was going to blaze. Our speedy RB Keegan Herring, a former track star and supposed fastest player on the team lost a 40 yard foot race like a year or two ago to Josh Barrett, and had to shave a mohawk as a result.

i dont know much about barrett. did he play at CB or safety. cus he might do well at safety especially with his size.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by NYSunDevil49er:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Josh Barrett at 6'1 223 lbs ran a 4.35 40 .

DRC ran a 4.33!!! definitely gone before we draft now.

OMG. what round is barrett projected to go in??

Barrett has been projected anywhere from the 3rd to the 6th. He was falling before the combine for good reason. He had a really bad senior season and never played up to his athletic ability. Even as an ASU homer, I wouldn't take him until the 5th, he just doesn't play up to his potential and gets hurt too much.

I could have told you he was going to blaze. Our speedy RB Keegan Herring, a former track star and supposed fastest player on the team lost a 40 yard foot race like a year or two ago to Josh Barrett, and had to shave a mohawk as a result.

i dont know much about barrett. did he play at CB or safety. cus he might do well at safety especially with his size.

He played Safety. And the "he didn't play up to his potential" is BS. He was injured the whole senior season, first the groin then i believe it was the knee. And he still finished second on the team in pass break ups. So the knock is can he stay healthy, not about his potential.

He did extremely well in his junior year when he was healthy. Won team defensive MVP, All-Pac 10 honorable mention.

I recall MD saying Barrett has stiff hips earlier in the year and he does get beat on the deep pass occasionally, especially in play action.

Barrett is a workout warrior, gym rat kind of guy. He wasn't so physically impressive coming into ASU, real big pleasant surprise . High motor guy coaches love, student of the game. Excels in press coverage, excellent in run support. With his combine numbers he will be taken in the 3rd IMO.
[ Edited by SunDevilNiner79 on Feb 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM ]
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by NYSunDevil49er:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Josh Barrett at 6'1 223 lbs ran a 4.35 40 .

DRC ran a 4.33!!! definitely gone before we draft now.

OMG. what round is barrett projected to go in??

Barrett has been projected anywhere from the 3rd to the 6th. He was falling before the combine for good reason. He had a really bad senior season and never played up to his athletic ability. Even as an ASU homer, I wouldn't take him until the 5th, he just doesn't play up to his potential and gets hurt too much.

I could have told you he was going to blaze. Our speedy RB Keegan Herring, a former track star and supposed fastest player on the team lost a 40 yard foot race like a year or two ago to Josh Barrett, and had to shave a mohawk as a result.

i dont know much about barrett. did he play at CB or safety. cus he might do well at safety especially with his size.

He played Safety. And the "he didn't play up to his potential" is BS. He was injured the whole senior season, first the groin then i believe it was the knee. And he still finished second on the team in pass break ups. So the knock is can he stay healthy, not about his potential.

He did extremely well in his junior year when he was healthy. Won team defensive MVP, All-Pac 10 honorable mention.

I recall MD saying Barrett has stiff hips earlier in the year and he does get beat on the deep pass occasionally, especially in play action.

Barrett is a workout warrior, gym rat kind of guy. He wasn't so physically impressive. High motor guy coaches love, student of the game. Excels in press coverage, excellent in run support. With his combine numbers he will be taken in the 3rd IMO.

sounds like he would flourish in a more physical 3-4 defense where he would step in more to make tackles in the backfield.