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Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 228niner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
not too worried about returns KW looks good ( hunter not great returner) and we still have ginn

dont see Ginn back next year....we need a new toy

lamicheal james?


i dont trust him returning punts

really? thats one of the reasons we drafted him so i'm pretty sure he will be inserted in that spot, and he's prob fielding punts everyday at practice, so he'll be ready when the time comes
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Originally posted by 228niner:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 228niner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
not too worried about returns KW looks good ( hunter not great returner) and we still have ginn

dont see Ginn back next year....we need a new toy

lamicheal james?


i dont trust him returning punts

really? thats one of the reasons we drafted him so i'm pretty sure he will be inserted in that spot, and he's prob fielding punts everyday at practice, so he'll be ready when the time comes

just needs to stop going full retard on Sundays - but yea he has been fielding punts every day with Ginn, Williams and Cox. Right now James has to show that much improvement though in order to justify us giving him a shot.
Marcus Latimore is a player through and through

If he can stay injury free this year he will be all of that. His team mate, last year, Jeffrey had pro written all over him too. Though aging Smith is still all that at IDL. So looking at first rate Nose Guards instead of a runner is well it is a bit unnecessary
[ Edited by KidNapster on Sep 18, 2012 at 2:43 PM ]
Matt Millers new draft rankings (dude is a big 9er homer)

RB
1. Marcus Lattimore - South Carolina - Junior - 6'0", 220 lbs (No. 9)

2. Knile Davis - Arkansas - Redshirt Junior - 6'0", 226 lbs (No. 29)

3. Le'Veon Bell - Michigan State - Junior - 6'2", 244 lbs (No. 55)

4. Eddie Lacy - Alabama - Redshirt Junior - 5'10", 220 lbs (No. 65)

5. Andre Ellington - Clemson - Redshirt Senior - 5'9", 192 lbs (No. 71)

6. Montee Ball - Wisconsin - Senior - 5'11", 215 lbs (No. 82)

FB
1. Trey Millard - Oklahoma - Junior - 6'1", 256 lbs (No. 106)

2. Trey Burton - Florida - Junior - 6'2", 228 lbs (No. 139)

3. Zach Line - Southern Methodist - Redshirt Senior - 6'1", 230 lbs (No. 183)

4. Zach Boren - Ohio State - Senior - 6'0", 245 lbs (No. 249)

5. Devon Ramsay - North Carolina - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 250 lbs (No. 274)

WR
1. Keenan Allen - California - Junior - 6'3", 210 lbs (No. 5 overall)

2. Robert Woods - Southern California - Junior - 6'1", 190 lbs (No. 12)

3. Justin Hunter - Tennessee - Junior - 6'4", 200 lbs (No. 16)

4. Marquess Wilson - Washington State - Junior - 6'3", 188 lbs (No. 43)

5. Terrance Williams - Baylor - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 205 lbs (No. 45)

6. Aaron Mellette - Elon - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 218 lbs (No. 61)

7. Da'Rick Rogers - Tennessee Tech - Junior - 6'3", 206 lbs (No. 77)

8. Aaron Dobson - Marshall - Senior - 6'2", 204 lbs (No. 86)

9. Tavon Austin - West Virginia - Senior - 5'9", 172 lbs (No. 93)

10. Quinton Patton - Louisiana Tech - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 195 lbs (No. 97)

11. Ryan Swope - Texas A&M - Redshirt Senior - 6'0", 206 lbs (No. 99)

12. Denard Robinson - Michigan - Senior - 5'11", 197 lbs (No. 100)

TE
1. Tyler Eifert - Notre Dame - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 252 lbs (No. 31 overall)

2. Dion Sims - Michigan State - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 285 lbs (No. 75)

3. C.J. Fiedorowicz - Iowa - Junior - 6'6", 265 lbs (No. 116)

4. Michael Williams - Alabama - Redshirt Senior - 6'5", 272 lbs (No. 125)

5. Jordan Reed - Florida - Redshirt Junior - 6'3", 243 lbs (No. 130)

6. Chris Gragg - Arkansas - Senior - 6'3", 236 lbs (No. 152)

OT
1. Luke Joeckel - Texas A&M - Junior - 6'6", 310 lbs (No. 18 overall)

2. Chris Faulk - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 323 lbs (No. 28)

3. Taylor Lewan - Michigan - Redshirt Junior - 6'7", 310 lbs (No. 30)

4. Jake Matthews - Texas A&M - Junior - 6'5", 305 lbs (No. 33)

5. Rick Wagner - Wisconsin - Redshirt Senior - 6'6", 318 lbs (No. 39)

6. D.J. Fluker - Alabama - Redshirt Junior - 6'6", 335 lbs (No. 42)

7. Brennan Williams - North Carolina - Senior - 6'7", 315 lbs (No. 44)

8. Dallas Thomas - Tennessee - Redshirt Senior - 6'5", 310 lbs (No. 59)

9. Cyril Richardson - Baylor - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 335 lbs (No. 68)

10. Oday Aboushi - Virginia - Senior - 6'6", 310 lbs (No. 107)

11. Alex Hurst - LSU - Redshirt Senior - 6'6", 332 lbs (No. 114)

12. Justin Pugh - Syracuse - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 298 lbs (No. 131)

13. Seantrel Henderson - Miami (Fla.) - Junior - 6'8", 340 lbs (No. 153)

14. James Hurst - North Carolina - Junior - 6'6", 310 lbs (No. 158)

OG
1. Chance Warmack - Alabama - Senior - 6'2", 322 lbs (No. 23 overall)

2. Barrett Jones - Alabama - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 305 lbs (No. 26)

3. Travis Frederick - Wisconsin - Redshirt Junior - 6'4", 338 lbs (No. 62)

4. Jonathan Cooper - North Carolina - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 310 lbs (No. 64)

5. Larry Warford - Kentucky - Senior - 6'3", 343 lbs (No. 78)

6. Alvin Bailey - Arkansas - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 315 lbs (No. 117)

7. Omoregie Uzzi - Georgia Tech - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 302 lbs (No. 129)

8. Gabe Jackson - Mississippi State - Redshirt Junior - 6'4", 320 lbs (No. 154)

9. Blaize Foltz - TCU - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 310 lbs (No. 184)

10. Earl Watford - James Madison - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 290 lbs (No. 206)

C
1. Khaled Holmes - Southern California - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 305 lbs (No. 53 overall)

2. Graham Pocic - Illinois - Redshirt Senior - 6'5", 310 lbs (No. 120)

3. Braxston Cave - Notre Dame - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 305 lbs (No. 141)

4. T.J. Johnson - South Carolina - Redshirt Senior - 6'5", 318 lbs (No. 175)

5. Dalton Freeman - Clemson - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 286 lbs (No. 192)
[ Edited by jreff22 on Sep 20, 2012 at 8:49 PM ]
Rankings cont...

DE
1. Sam Montgomery - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'5", 260 lbs (No. 2 overall)

2. Jackson Jeffcoat - Texas - Junior - 6'5", 245 lbs (No. 11)

3. Bjoern Werner - Florida State - Junior - 6'4", 256 lbs (No. 15)

4. Alex Okafor - Texas - Senior - 6'5", 265 lbs (No. 21)

5. William Gholston - Michigan State - Junior - 6'6", 278 lbs (No. 37)

6. Margus Hunt - Southern Methodist - Redshirt Senior - 6'7", 280 lbs (No. 49)

7. Devin Taylor - South Carolina - Redshirt Senior - 6'7", 267 lbs (No. 51)

8. Michael Buchanan - Illinois - Senior - 6'5", 240 lbs (No. 54)

9. John Simon - Ohio State - Senior - 6'2", 260 lbs (No. 66)

10. James Gayle - Virginia Tech - Redshirt Junior - 6'4", 268 lbs (No. 69)

11. Dion Jordan - Oregon - Redshirt Senior - 6'6", 243 lbs (No. 79)

12. Malliciah Goodman - Clemson - Senior - 6'4", 280 lbs (No. 83)

13. Corey Lemonier - Auburn - Junior - 6'3", 242 lbs (No. 91)

14. Datone Jones - UCLA - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 275 lbs (No. 112)

15. Craig Roh - Michigan - Senior - 6'4", 280 lbs (No. 123)

16. Kapron Lewis-Moore - Notre Dame - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 306 lbs (No. 144)

DT
1. Johnathan Hankins - Ohio State - Junior - 6'3", 320 lbs (No. 3 overall)

2. Star Lotulelei - Utah - Senior - 6'3", 320 lbs (No. 6)

3. Jesse Williams - Alabama - Senior - 6'3", 320 lbs (No. 38)

4. Bennie Logan - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'3", 295 lbs (No. 46)

5. Kawann Short - Purdue - Redshirt Senior - 6'3", 315 lbs (No. 47)

6. John Jenkins - Georgia - Senior - 6'3", 358 lbs (No. 48)

7. Sharrif Floyd - Florida - Junior - 6'3", 303 lbs (No. 76)

8. Akeem Spence - Illinois - Redshirt Junior - 6'1", 305 lbs (No. 84)

9. Sylvester Williams - North Carolina - Senior - 6'3", 320 lbs (No. 89)

10. Jordan Hill - Penn State - Senior - 6'1", 294 lbs (No. 98)

11. Everett Dawkins - Florida State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 304 lbs (No. 109)

12. Aaron Tipoti - California - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 280 lbs (No. 121)

OLB
1. Jarvis Jones - Georgia - Redshirt Junior - 6'2", 242 lbs (No. 1 overall)

2. Barkevious Mingo - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 6'4", 240 lbs (No. 4)

3. Sean Porter - Texas A&M - Senior - 6'2", 230 lbs (No. 40)

4. Brandon Jenkins - Florida State - Senior - 6'3", 260 lbs (No. 41)

5. C.J. Mosley - Alabama - Junior - 6'2", 232 lbs (No. 60)

6. Gerald Hodges - Penn State - Senior - 6'2", 238 lbs (No. 73)

7. Chase Thomas - Stanford - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 248 lbs (No. 80)

8. Jelani Jenkins - Florida - Redshirt Junior - 6'0", 237 lbs (No. 94)

9. Jonathan Brown - Illinois - Junior - 6'1", 235 lbs (No. 96)

10. Khaseem Greene - Rutgers - Redshirt Senior - 6'1", 230 lbs (No. 108)

11. Jamie Collins - Southern Mississippi - Senior - 6'3", 240 lbs (No. 110)

12. Zaviar Gooden - Missouri - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 230 lbs (No. 126)

13. Cornelius Washington - Georgia - Redshirt Senior - 6'4", 268 lbs (No. 134)

14. DeVonte Holloman - South Carolina - Senior - 6'2", 241 lbs (No. 143)

15. Sio Moore - Connecticut - Redshirt Senior - 6'1", 230 lbs (No. 148)

ILB
1. Manti Te'o - Notre Dame - Senior - 6'2", 255 lbs (No. 19 overall)

2. Nico Johnson - Alabama - Senior - 6'2", 245 lbs (No. 25)

3. Arthur Brown - Kansas State - Redshirt Senior - 6'1", 228 lbs (No. 56)

4. Kevin Reddick - North Carolina - Senior - 6'2", 240 lbs (No. 57)

5. Shayne Skov - Stanford - Senior - 6'3", 242 lbs (No. 58)

6. Michael Mauti - Penn State - Redshirt Senior - 6'2", 235 lbs (No. 127)

7. A.J. Klein - Iowa State - Senior - 6'1", 244 lbs (No. 170)

8. Jon Bostic - Florida - Senior - 6'1", 246 lbs (No. 183)

CB
1. David Amerson - North Carolina State - Junior - 6'2", 194 lbs (No. 7 overall)

2. Dee Milliner - Alabama - Junior - 6'1", 198 lbs (No. 14)

3. Carrington Byndom - Texas - Junior - 6'0", 180 lbs (No. 34)

4. Johnthan Banks - Mississippi State - Senior - 6'1", 185 lbs (No. 35)

5. Xavier Rhodes - Florida State - Redshirt Junior - 6'1", 217 lbs (No. 36)

6. Tyrann Mathieu - LSU - Redshirt Junior - 5'9", 178 lbs (No. 70)

7. Justin Gilbert - Oklahoma State - Junior - 6'0", 195 lbs (No. 72)

8. Terry Hawthorne - Illinois - Senior - 6'0", 190 lbs (No. 85)

9. Micah Hyde - Iowa - Senior - 6'1", 190 lbs (No. 88)

10. Jordan Poyer - Oregon State - Senior - 5'11", 190 lbs (No. 103)

FS
1. Eric Reid - LSU - Junior - 6'2", 212 lbs (No. 20 overall)

2. T.J. McDonald - Southern California - Senior - 6'2", 205 lbs (No. 24)

3. Tony Jefferson - Oklahoma - Junior - 5'11", 212 lbs (No. 74)

4. John Boyett - Oregon - Redshirt Senior - 5'10", 205 lbs (No. 87)

5. Bacarri Rambo - Georgia - Redshirt Senior - 6'0", 210 lbs (No. 95)

SS
1. Kenny Vaccaro - Texas - Senior - 6'1", 218 lbs (No. 17 overall)

2. Robert Lester - Alabama - Senior - 6'2", 212 lbs (No. 67)

3. Shawn Williams - Georgia - Senior - 6'1", 218 lbs (No. 104)

4. Matt Elam - Florida - Junior - 5'10", 202 lbs (No. 136)

5. Jordan Kovacs - Michigan - Redshirt Senior - 5'11", 202 lbs (No. 195)
Originally posted by 228niner:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 228niner:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
not too worried about returns KW looks good ( hunter not great returner) and we still have ginn

dont see Ginn back next year....we need a new toy

lamicheal james?


i dont trust him returning punts

really? thats one of the reasons we drafted him so i'm pretty sure he will be inserted in that spot, and he's prob fielding punts everyday at practice, so he'll be ready when the time comes


He didnt look that great returning punts during the pre-season, hopefully he improves if we dont resign ginn.
Interesting lists Justin.

I wonder what the mock would look like, would Jarvis Jones go 1st overall? I can't remember the last time an OLB went #1.

I expect us to pick again in the 30 range, hoping of course 32nd, but in that area, I would look at these guys.

FS TJ McDonald
C Barrett Jones (I would draft him at Center)

I would NOT draft a 1st round NT, it seems clear we aren't using a NT a whole lot, look at Sopoaga's snap counts, 7 in week 1 and 8 in week 2, total of 15 snaps out of 137 total snaps in 2 games. I think those wanting a Lotolele(sp.) or Hankins, Jenkins, Williams might be a long shot.

Being my usual cap guy, I think we look toward the above 2 spots, we look away from OLB, we already have to eventually pay Aldon Top 10 money/Big Money Extension, and decide on AJ Jenkins in 2014 on top 20 money at WR.

I think baring a bad season, QB is a no go, too much tied up in Alex and Kaep.

RB would be a no-no, Gore, Hunter and James all signed for next season, plus who knows on Jacobs. Same goes for FB, Miller is the future here, plus we use DL on jumbo plays.

TE, not likely. Vernon is paid Top 5 TE money, so adding another potential Top 20 TE money wouldn't make sense.

Maybe OT, but honestly, we have 2 1st round Tackles, and a 1st round Guard, I can't see the team adding another tackle or guard when we need to extend Davis and Iupati at some point. So Center is the one spot I would look.

DL I think DE would be the only spot, unless we extend Justin Smith, we also have McDonald being paid good money.

ILB not likely if we feel Bowman is signable.

CB seems unlikely, paying Rogers good money, Brown is due an extension.

FS likely, and SS not likely.
^^^

right now for a 1st rounder I would go DE,NT, OLB, FS/SS

The drop off for Ice was the constant nickel package...remember we are great at stopping the run and that starts up front. I don't think OLB has a great chance but I will say it has a chance. Having a strong rotation of guys that have the ability to be 3 down players that can get to the QB when need be would be big. A lot depends on Goldosn...if he goes we have to go after a guy in either rounds 1 or 2. I really doubt Spillman has the ability and Robinson seems more like the go to backup.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
^^^

right now for a 1st rounder I would go DE,NT, OLB, FS/SS

The drop off for Ice was the constant nickel package...remember we are great at stopping the run and that starts up front. I don't think OLB has a great chance but I will say it has a chance. Having a strong rotation of guys that have the ability to be 3 down players that can get to the QB when need be would be big. A lot depends on Goldosn...if he goes we have to go after a guy in either rounds 1 or 2. I really doubt Spillman has the ability and Robinson seems more like the go to backup.

yep look for a normal snap count for ICE since we'll be facing AP. We'll also see Aldon finally play extensively at a true OLB position.

Honestly I am kind of saying Free Safety or bust in round 1 this year. I'd really love to see Goldson keep this stellar form going and have another monster year but if he doesnt then id go FS for sure in round 1.
[ Edited by sfout on Sep 20, 2012 at 10:40 PM ]
I know its Boring but I think we should go D-line or O-line.
O line will not be first round pick everything is settled but c and I think killgore is being groomed for that
We do need some T deepth however

It all depends on FA it could be NT S TE or OLB
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Interesting lists Justin.

I wonder what the mock would look like, would Jarvis Jones go 1st overall? I can't remember the last time an OLB went #1.

I expect us to pick again in the 30 range, hoping of course 32nd, but in that area, I would look at these guys.

FS TJ McDonald
C Barrett Jones (I would draft him at Center)

I would NOT draft a 1st round NT, it seems clear we aren't using a NT a whole lot, look at Sopoaga's snap counts, 7 in week 1 and 8 in week 2, total of 15 snaps out of 137 total snaps in 2 games. I think those wanting a Lotolele(sp.) or Hankins, Jenkins, Williams might be a long shot.

Being my usual cap guy, I think we look toward the above 2 spots, we look away from OLB, we already have to eventually pay Aldon Top 10 money/Big Money Extension, and decide on AJ Jenkins in 2014 on top 20 money at WR.

I think baring a bad season, QB is a no go, too much tied up in Alex and Kaep.

RB would be a no-no, Gore, Hunter and James all signed for next season, plus who knows on Jacobs. Same goes for FB, Miller is the future here, plus we use DL on jumbo plays.

TE, not likely. Vernon is paid Top 5 TE money, so adding another potential Top 20 TE money wouldn't make sense.

Maybe OT, but honestly, we have 2 1st round Tackles, and a 1st round Guard, I can't see the team adding another tackle or guard when we need to extend Davis and Iupati at some point. So Center is the one spot I would look.

DL I think DE would be the only spot, unless we extend Justin Smith, we also have McDonald being paid good money.

ILB not likely if we feel Bowman is signable.

CB seems unlikely, paying Rogers good money, Brown is due an extension.

FS likely, and SS not likely.


Not many needs so we could always New England this draft.
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Not many needs so we could always New England this draft.

really depends on FA

TE S OLB NT can all be needs i first round
too early for rankings IMO, we are just starting to get into the meat of the schedule in CFB.
Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
too early for rankings IMO, we are just starting to get into the meat of the schedule in CFB.

just fun to track