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who would you choose?

Originally posted by ninertico:
Floyd fits, but out of our range.
S. Hill, but we may have to jump over Hou to get him.
Jeffery is the one that intrigues me and I feel could be a target at #30 especially after his pro day
Fleener also could be that choice at #30 based on his proday

Fleener and Jeffery is just about even for me. Fleener just brings so much to the table in terms of talent, work ethic and most importantly, Harbaugh's system. He'd instantly compete and win over Walker for the second TE.

Still, Jeffery or Hill would fine additions, too.

Going crazy! A nice crazy though.
This is probably a discussion for a different thread, but would you guys be willing to trade next years #1 to land 2 of these guys. If Fleener or Hill is there at #30, we could grab Fleener and then trade back up with NE or early second and grab the WR (Hill or Jeffery). I hate trading away the future as well, but if we think they are rated first round talent than it wouldn't matter. If we have another good year (fingers crossed for SB), then we would be picking at the back of the draft anyways. It would get Fleener and the WR of choice into Harbaugh's system faster instead of doing it a piece at a time. It's not likely but would you be opposed to it?
Alshon. It sucks that his stock has fallen so much but it could be good news for the niners.
None of those remaining 3 would be better than Fleener or the impact he would have on games. You are picking a 2nd tier WR vs. a tremendous TE. Why would you do that? Knowing that DW is 6'0" (tiny for TE's), a FA next year and likely to leave and has bad hands. From day 1 Fleener would be the 2nd TE. He has far better hands than DW. He knows the Harbaugh system inside and out and would be ready right away.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Mar 7, 2012 at 6:01 PM ]
I see Floyd as more of a posession reciever in the nfl that cannot get deep. Seems like he's got great hands and can run any route though. My pick is Wright Randell or Hill I want a guy that can get the big plays.


fleener, randle jeffery, sanu in that order, if Im choosing from the ones left.
[ Edited by OtisDriftwood on Mar 7, 2012 at 8:07 PM ]
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I'm hoping Jeffery runs a 4.5 at his pro day that way we can at least have him in discussion at 30. Assuming he does I'd probably go with a board like this.....

!. Fleener - Someone said above he'd instantly win the #2 gig over DW(walker should become a true h-back/utility guy at this point, he basically already is). We'd instantly have the best TEs in the league with VD, Fleener, Walker, and Byham(presumably will take Moran Norris' roster spot IMHO)

2. Wright - a flat out play maker who could instantly be our #2 if we stay out of the big name FAs or possible compete with a guy like Meachem for competitions sake.

3. Jeffery - Assuming he runs a 4.5 he would be one hell of partner for Crabtree, just a bit faster, better athleticism and amazing hands.

4. Hill - His 4.3 speed is enticing but I'm weary of drafting a project like hill who might not his his NFL stride for a full year or 2, all the while wasting all precious time of the rest of our star players prime. However pair the selection of Hill with a signing of VJAX or Colston and I would be all of this idea, the other options would probably indicate we signed Meachem or Robinson.

If we are truly looking for a player who could contribute in a big way immediately I would have to say that Hill is the least likely of those options, with Wright being the best option as true contrast to Crabtree they would form a very dynamic duo(cue the batman music lol), Jeffery's athleticism, size and hands would be an instant help for us in our biggest ares of need(3rd down, RZ), IMHO Fleener is a trump card for all 3 of them though, he could walk in on day 1 and probably know more than half the playbook and he has the skill set to give us the best TE corp in the NFL.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM ]
Originally posted by sfout:
I'm hoping Jeffery runs a 4.5 at his pro day that way we can at least have him in discussion at 30. Assuming he does I'd probably go with a board like this.....

!. Fleener - Someone said above he'd instantly win the #2 gig over DW(walker should become a true h-back/utility guy at this point, he basically already is). We'd instantly have the best TEs in the league with VD, Fleener, Walker, and Byham(presumably will take Moran Norris' roster spot IMHO)

2. Wright - a flat out play maker who could instantly be our #2 if we stay out of the big name FAs or possible compete with a guy like Meachem for competitions sake.

3. Jeffery - Assuming he runs a 4.5 he would be one hell of partner for Crabtree, just a bit faster, better athleticism and amazing hands.

4. Hill - His 4.3 speed is enticing but I'm weary of drafting a project like hill who might not his his NFL stride for a full year or 2, all the while wasting all precious time of the rest of our star players prime. However pair the selection of Hill with a signing of VJAX or Colston and I would be all of this idea, the other options would probably indicate we signed Meachem or Robinson.

If we are truly looking for a player who could contribute in a big way immediately I would have to say that Hill is the least likely of those options, with Wright being the best option as true contrat to Crabtree they would form a very dynamic duo(cue the batman music lol), Jeffery's athleticism, size and hands would be an instant help for us in our biggest ares of need(3rd down, RZ), IMHO Fleener is a trump card for all 3 of them though, he could walk in on day 1 and probably know more than half the playbook and he has the skill set to give us the best TE corp in the NFL.

Exactly!

I had the same thought process as you and I would even place Wright behind Hill...

Scary

PS...Hill could still contribute, IMO. He's a natural pass catcher and can fly on a go or post route. He can continue to develop while we utilize what he knows and is confident doing, that is block and fly like the wind. I'm OK with that especially when you would utilize him like we did with Aldon. Oh yea, we can still utilize him.
[ Edited by ninertico on Mar 7, 2012 at 9:50 PM ]
Originally posted by sfout:
I'm hoping Jeffery runs a 4.5 at his pro day that way we can at least have him in discussion at 30. Assuming he does I'd probably go with a board like this.....

!. Fleener - Someone said above he'd instantly win the #2 gig over DW(walker should become a true h-back/utility guy at this point, he basically already is). We'd instantly have the best TEs in the league with VD, Fleener, Walker, and Byham(presumably will take Moran Norris' roster spot IMHO)

2. Wright - a flat out play maker who could instantly be our #2 if we stay out of the big name FAs or possible compete with a guy like Meachem for competitions sake.

3. Jeffery - Assuming he runs a 4.5 he would be one hell of partner for Crabtree, just a bit faster, better athleticism and amazing hands.

4. Hill - His 4.3 speed is enticing but I'm weary of drafting a project like hill who might not his his NFL stride for a full year or 2, all the while wasting all precious time of the rest of our star players prime. However pair the selection of Hill with a signing of VJAX or Colston and I would be all of this idea, the other options would probably indicate we signed Meachem or Robinson.

If we are truly looking for a player who could contribute in a big way immediately I would have to say that Hill is the least likely of those options, with Wright being the best option as true contrat to Crabtree they would form a very dynamic duo(cue the batman music lol), Jeffery's athleticism, size and hands would be an instant help for us in our biggest ares of need(3rd down, RZ), IMHO Fleener is a trump card for all 3 of them though, he could walk in on day 1 and probably know more than half the playbook and he has the skill set to give us the best TE corp in the NFL.

What would you think if Jeffery ran a 4.6?
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Originally posted by Engleburger:
What would you think if Jeffery ran a 4.6?

Probably wouldn't change my mind too much but if he is nearly a full tenth faster then Crabtree(i believe he ran a 4.61) he is well worth it with that extra burst, his 10 yard split will be incredibly important to where he gets drafted. If he runs a 1.5 split I could care less about a tenth of a difference on his final time, if he has a slow 10 yard split like 1.7/1.8 then I would not want, if he can get good burst from the LOS without being a "buildup speed" guy then he would be one hell of a problem on intermediate routes.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 7, 2012 at 10:02 PM ]
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by sfout:
I'm hoping Jeffery runs a 4.5 at his pro day that way we can at least have him in discussion at 30. Assuming he does I'd probably go with a board like this.....

!. Fleener - Someone said above he'd instantly win the #2 gig over DW(walker should become a true h-back/utility guy at this point, he basically already is). We'd instantly have the best TEs in the league with VD, Fleener, Walker, and Byham(presumably will take Moran Norris' roster spot IMHO)

2. Wright - a flat out play maker who could instantly be our #2 if we stay out of the big name FAs or possible compete with a guy like Meachem for competitions sake.

3. Jeffery - Assuming he runs a 4.5 he would be one hell of partner for Crabtree, just a bit faster, better athleticism and amazing hands.

4. Hill - His 4.3 speed is enticing but I'm weary of drafting a project like hill who might not his his NFL stride for a full year or 2, all the while wasting all precious time of the rest of our star players prime. However pair the selection of Hill with a signing of VJAX or Colston and I would be all of this idea, the other options would probably indicate we signed Meachem or Robinson.

If we are truly looking for a player who could contribute in a big way immediately I would have to say that Hill is the least likely of those options, with Wright being the best option as true contrat to Crabtree they would form a very dynamic duo(cue the batman music lol), Jeffery's athleticism, size and hands would be an instant help for us in our biggest ares of need(3rd down, RZ), IMHO Fleener is a trump card for all 3 of them though, he could walk in on day 1 and probably know more than half the playbook and he has the skill set to give us the best TE corp in the NFL.

Exactly!

I had the same thought process as you and I would even place Wright behind Hill...

Scary

PS...Hill could still contribute, IMO. He's a natural pass catcher and can fly on a go or post route. He can continue to develop while we utilize what he knows and is confident doing, that is block and fly like the wind. I'm OK with that especially when you would utilize him like we did with Aldon. Oh yea, we can still utilize him.
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Originally posted by ninertico:
Exactly!

I had the same thought process as you and I would even place Wright behind Hill...

Scary

PS...Hill could still contribute, IMO. He's a natural pass catcher and can fly on a go or post route. He can continue to develop while we utilize what he knows and is confident doing, that is block and fly like the wind. I'm OK with that especially when you would utilize him like we did with Aldon. Oh yea, we can still utilize him.

True but for the very early stage of his career he would just be a tall desean jackson/mike wallace running nothing but go routes, that was my main point, I dont think he could be 3 down WR early on, just my opinion. Sure we could sprinkle in 2 or 3 deep shots with him a game but I am not convinced of his ability to start day 1, like I said in my first post, I'm all for the idea of drafting him and bringing him along slowly but I was approaching it from a perspective of who could contribute the most from the get go.

EDIT: Also thank you for agreeing with me on what Fleener would do for our offense Glad to see some others are being rational abut what it would mean to draft him.
[ Edited by sfout on Mar 7, 2012 at 10:01 PM ]