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Alshon Jeffery or Michael Floyd, Who's the #2 WR in the draft?

Alshon Jeffery or Michael Floyd, Who's the #2 WR in the draft?

Floyd still seems to catch the ball with his body instead of his hands, a problem that doesn't ever seem to get fixed once a prospect makes it to the NFL (see: our own Ted Gin and Vernon Davis). That alone makes him a questionable 1st round pick.
[ Edited by Gavintech on Feb 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM ]
Pass on both. The big boys (Floyd and Jeffery) are going to be a real disappointment in the NFL. This is the year of the midget WR's, the guys who burn the field (K. Wright, Adams, J. Wright, Wylie). I think some of these 3rd and 4th round WRs (Criner, Jones) will have careers more productive than Floyd and Jeffery.
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Feb 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Pass on both. The big boys (Floyd and Jeffery) are going to be a real disappointment in the NFL. This is the year of the midget WR's, the guys who burn the field (K. Wright, Adams, J. Wright, Wylie). I think some of these 3rd and 4th round WRs (Criner, Jones) will have careers more productive than Floyd and Jeffery.

I agree, more and more I am feeling like Kendall Wright is the 2nd best receiver in this draft and will be a tremendous explosive receiver in the NFL. I think teams that are obsessing over size are going to miss on some damn good players because of it. Give me a fast, quick and agile midget receiver over a big tall, lumbering behemoth any day.
After Blackmon, I argue that Wright may be even better than Floyd. Very first mock I had Wright going to us in the 1st. Now it's a stretch for him to make it that far. Would be OK with us trading up for him. Really strikes me as a Steve Smith kind of playmaker.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
After Blackmon, I argue that Wright may be even better than Floyd. Very first mock I had Wright going to us in the 1st. Now it's a stretch for him to make it that far. Would be OK with us trading up for him. Really strikes me as a Steve Smith kind of playmaker.

Yes, I have a very good feeling about Wright, just a naturally explosive athlete, a true playmaker. He's been extensively compared to Desean Jackson and some mocks even have the Eagles picking him at 15. T.Y. Hilton is a later-round possibility, a very explosive guy with great speed that can create mismatches.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 6, 2012 at 2:24 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
After Blackmon, I argue that Wright may be even better than Floyd. Very first mock I had Wright going to us in the 1st. Now it's a stretch for him to make it that far. Would be OK with us trading up for him. Really strikes me as a Steve Smith kind of playmaker.

What would be your stance if Jeffery and Floyd both run a 4.4 40? How much would your board change for the top 4 WRs based on combine and entire body of work? Would it be harder for you to pass up a big WR for a fast smaller WR? Would you rate Floyd the highest for us for his WCO backround or Jeffery higher for his redzone presence and hands? I can see your argument for Wright as the #2 WR but imo the drop off from Wright,Jeffery n Floyd is so slim. Its really gotta be rough for GMs needing WRs to choose with this years class. I just wanna see your take on the players pre-combine.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
After Blackmon, I argue that Wright may be even better than Floyd. Very first mock I had Wright going to us in the 1st. Now it's a stretch for him to make it that far. Would be OK with us trading up for him. Really strikes me as a Steve Smith kind of playmaker.

What would be your stance if Jeffery and Floyd both run a 4.4 40? How much would your board change for the top 4 WRs based on combine and entire body of work? Would it be harder for you to pass up a big WR for a fast smaller WR? Would you rate Floyd the highest for us for his WCO backround or Jeffery higher for his redzone presence and hands? I can see your argument for Wright as the #2 WR but imo the drop off from Wright,Jeffery n Floyd is so slim. Its really gotta be rough for GMs needing WRs to choose with this years class. I just wanna see your take on the players pre-combine.
my eyes would pop out of my head if any run that time ESPECIALLY jeffrey, even if they did run those times no way in hell they drop to us. floyd wasnt gonna drop to us even if he ran a 4.5-4.6 and jeffrey depending on his combine numbers and weight should probably drop to us


Although off-season news is slow for the Cardinals right, the never-ending stream of questions is still going strong. This week, the ROTB Writing Staff tackled three of those questions, ranging from Cardinals news to non-Cardinals guesses.

Hit the jump for the questions, their answers, and of course, don't forget to answer the questions yourself in the comment section.



1) Many people have mentioned the need for a #2 WR. Do you agree, and if so, who do you think the Cardinals should target?

Tyler Nickel: Yes, I think a #2 WR would help the Cards, but I don't see them drafting one in the higher rounds. If they do, maybe they can try and trade down to grab Michael Floyd from Notre Dame and some extra picks.

Jesse Reynolds: I really do not think we need a second WR. Inconsistent QB play and poor protection has led to poor performances from the WR's behind Larry. I believe the WR options we have are more than adequate we just need our QB to play consistently and our line to give our QB time to make a throw. 52 sacks, a 21 TO's and under 60% completion % says more to me than poor numbers from everyone behind Larry.

Jess Root: Need? They need someone to emerge or get someone to step up. Andre Roberts can be that guy if he doesn't take the first half of the season off again. If the team were going to acquire someone, my three favorite FA targets would be Pierre Garcon, Mario Manningham or Jerome Simpson.

JoeCB1991: Yeah I would like to see them target someone to help take pressure off of Fitz. Colston from the Saints would be my favorite choice but there will be plenty of good WR's out there who could be signed.

Alex Mann: I'd grab someone off of FA such as Pierre Garcon, cheap and can still produce, just long enough for someone on our current roster to emerge.

Cdeveau: I do agree that they should look for a #2 WR in free agency, after they re-sign key contributors here (Calais Campbell, Richard Marshall, The Hypehen) and shore up the O Line. Do those things first and if the money is right, find us a reliable #2. With an off season which should lead to the coming around of the TE corps, a #2 WR is a nice, but not at every cost possible. I still like Robert Meachem from NO if the opportunity is mutually beneficial. Garcon has been mentioned by other writers, and he is also a very plausible choice.



2) As draft talk starts to pick up, who, or what position, do you have in mind for the Cardinals?

Tyler Nickel: I would think that offensive line has to be the biggest concern for the Cards. Both of the tackle positions are of some concern and could use some upgrading via the draft.



Jesse Reynolds: I am a big believer in BPA. Even though I said we don't need a WR, if somehow Justin Blackmon dropped to us we would be foolish to pass up his kind of talent. Hopefully Reilly or Martin drops to us so we can plug them into RT. If not I think Luke Kuechly would be a great pick up. I just do not want a repeat of Buster Davis and Levi Brown, reaching for players almost always turns around to bite you in the behind.

Jess Root: I don't have any particular one player targeted yet. However, I want the team to pick the best impact player available at safety, linebacker or offensive line. With the variety of positional needs, it allows the team to still use the "best player available" method while filling a need.

JoeCB1991: Offensive Line or Outside Linebacker are the biggest needs, so one of those.

Alex Mann: Best Player Available. After looking at a lot of Draft Boards, Kendall Wright, Jonathan Martin, Melvin Ingram, and Courtney Upshaw should be falling to us. Michael Floyd might be there too so if he's there I see him as a Larry Fitzgerald kind of Receiver, I'd grab him.



Cdeveau: In the first round, at number 13...BPA, but I really struggle with liking Jonathan Martin as anything more than a RT in the NFL. Who I really like is the other Stanford lineman. David DeCastro, the guard. Please front office. Please. Snatch him up if he is there.

3) A non-Cardinals related question, but what are your Superbowl picks?

Tyler Nickel: I think the 49ers (unfortunately) and the Patriots make it to the big game with the Pats taking home the Lombardi trophy.

Jesse Reynolds: I have the Giants and Ravens in a defensive brawl. While I have little faith in the Ravens offensive coordinator and even less faith in Joe Flacco, I think the Ravens have what it takes to win. The 49ers could barely score on the Saints and had the help of 5 TO's, so I have a feeling the Giants take this one. The Patriots beat an overrated Denver team and have a terrible defense; I think the Ravens defense holds stout and beats up the Patriots defense with physical play.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Jeffery because Floyd is a douche who cant stay out of trouble. Plus his lack of interest for the Senior Bowl just made drafting him that much riskier imo. Jeffery has better hands,body control and jumps. I wouldnt be shocked if Jeffery came away much faster than alot of posters think. Id give a slight edge in speed to Jeffery but im pretty biased. Floyd looks fast only because ND plays alot of s**t teams and he has always had a QB who can put the ball in the right places.

You say pick Jeffery because Floyd can't stay out of trouble. I say pick Floyd because Jeffery can't stay away from the buffets. The brotha is fat and chubby for WR
Not sure if Alshon Jeffery is the 12th best WR in the draft...lol
Originally posted by pete98146:
Not sure if Alshon Jeffery is the 12th best WR in the draft...lol

Try watching college ball then
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by pete98146:
Not sure if Alshon Jeffery is the 12th best WR in the draft...lol

Try watching college ball then
he could easily be the best and almost have CJ type impact

he has great hands great body control has great size

what he lacks is

he has horrible speed
and is a poor to pathethic route runner

the reason he has bad speed and bad route runner is he relied too much on his size-- that will not work in nfl

route running imo isnt a convern that is something coachable in nfl level

im more worried if he can drop some weight and improve his speed


as of now he is only a RZ threat he will be useless in between the 20s
Neither of these guys are #2 right now, Kendall Wright has taken that title with Floyd #3 and Jeffery behind Sanu in many cases.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Try watching college ball then

I saw a slow guy who used his overwhelming size to dominate much smaller college defensive backs who wound up draped all over him because they were step for step with all the way.


No thanks.


I also don't give a flying f**k if he runs a 4.4 or whatever, there's track speed and there's football speed, some guys can run a 4.7 and still be fast on the football field, Jeffery just looks slow and sluggish, period. Guy could end up being shifted to a Delanie Walker like H-back or tight-end position even.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 11, 2012 at 6:11 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Neither of these guys are #2 right now, Kendall Wright has taken that title with Floyd #3 and Jeffery behind Sanu in many cases.

i dont know if i would put wright in front of floyd yet

floyd played great in a pro style offense wright played great under spread offense in a not o great confrencr

dont get me wrong i think wright will be a great player but as of now floyd is the better pro prospect and is the safer pick