Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:I dont want anyone to get injured but this can be said about what if Goldson get hurt there is no one behind him or Goodwin who is going to play center? Maybe Goodwin gets hurt so they need to draft a center in the first round because he is the best center in the draft. NO i do not want them to draft a center in the first round but that is the logic your using here and it dosnt work. as for 2 te and how the rules are changing i get it. Graham and Gronkowski had great years but they played for NE and NO and they have really good passing offenses plus all pro QBs. Brees and Brady make it much easyer for them in the passing game. If it was as easy as you and other are making it sound then put one of those 2 TE on the Jet and lets see how they do. im 100% sure Fleener would help the 49ers on offense. im not 100% sure he would beat out Walker day 1. by the end of the year yes he probably would be ahead of walker. still he will not put up the same kind of number as Graham and Gronkowski do because the offense is different. the 49ers want to run more then NE and NO do.I think there are alot of player that can be drafted in the first round that can help the team right now TE is not the end all to there problems.
Because this team runs over 50% of its offense out of the 2 TE set...additionally...what happens if VD gets injured, offensively speaking this team is f**ked, having a 2nd threat at TE forces defense to adjust, with Walker in there, they really don't have to adjust because they're not scared of him as a receiver and know he's in there to block, now stop acting like such a tool.
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Apr 24, 2012 at 4:06 PM
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Apr 24, 2012 at 4:08 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Some guys can add weight and some cant. Every persons frame is different and if you add 15-20 lbs on him you run the chance of losing speed.
You do realize that one of the reasons that Fleener is ranked ahead of Allen is that Fleener can still add mass to his frame while Allen is basically maxxed out.
Yet to be proven, and more mass means a potential loss of speed and explosion. The kid is not Gronk nor will ever have the size of Gronk.
Fleener is a converted WR and still looks like one.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Damn. This tells me that neither are worthy of a first round pick.
Might as well get a guard or an OLB at # 30 theen a backup TE
I'd be cool with that. I'm starting to fall into the anyone but Hill camp.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:15 PM
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Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Mayock knows his s**t.
I'm a fan of Mayock's and yes, he knows his s**t. However, he tends to fall in love with hype and then he bashes others that have hype. For example, he's a HUGE Stephen Hill fan. Despite some of the flaws that Hill might have, like not having enough experience running routes or dropping some passes, he thinks Hill is a 1st rounder. I'm a Hill fan too, but let's face it, before the 40 time, he was a 2nd rounder.
Now with Fleener, we have a guy that's got good size as a tight end, an end zone threat, played in a pro style system, a willing blocker, runs good routes, good guy off the field, but Mayock doesn't think he's a "killer". What's that supposed to mean? The guy can be coached to becoming a better blocker.
I don't get this... Hill caught what, 49 passes and 9 TD's over 3 years. That's something like 16 catches and 3 TDs a year. Fleener caught 96 passes and 18 tds over 4 years for an average of 24 catches and 4.5 TDs a year. Hell, last year Fleener caught 2X TDs to Hills 1...
You have to look at the team stats...
GT 2011
Tevin Washington-74/150, 1652 yards, 11TD's-8INTs
GT 2010
Josh Nesbit-39/105, 674 yards, 7TD's-4INTs
Tevin Washington-25/61, 417 yards, 2TDs-3INTs
Stanford 2011
Andrew Luck-288-404, 3517 yards, 37TD's-10INTs
Stanford 2010
Andrew Luck-263/372, 3338 yards, 32-TDs-8INTs
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:19 PM
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Let's Draft This Guy!!!!
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Some guys can add weight and some cant. Every persons frame is different and if you add 15-20 lbs on him you run the chance of losing speed.
You do realize that one of the reasons that Fleener is ranked ahead of Allen is that Fleener can still add mass to his frame while Allen is basically maxxed out.
Yet to be proven, and more mass means a potential loss of speed and explosion. The kid is not Gronk nor will ever have the size of Gronk.
Fleener is a converted WR and still looks like one.
he's gotta woody
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:24 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
homo
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:24 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
Really? I hadn't noticed.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:25 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
homo
You're the one who posted it.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:26 PM
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
Really? I hadn't noticed.
He's obviously a premature ejaculater.
would not draft.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:26 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
homo
You're the one who posted it.
I posted it to show his thor like hard body and perfect physique.....thats not ghey
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:30 PM
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
Really? I hadn't noticed.
He's obviously a premature ejaculater.
would not draft.
Didn't he already get drafted?
He did kinda blow his load before the Super Bowl, didn't he?
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:30 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by susweel:
he's gotta woody
homo
You're the one who posted it.
I posted it to show his thor like hard body and perfect physique.....thats not ghey
Of course not. Actually not posting it would have been ghey.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
I posted it to show his thor like hard body and perfect physique.....thats not ghey
If only he had the long golden hair, too. Le sigh.
Apr 24, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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Originally posted by Wodwo:
Didn't he already get drafted?
He did kinda blow his load before the Super Bowl, didn't he?
my bad I thought that was Fleener. I guess all buffed white tight ends look the same to me.