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Would you trade #1 pick and Willis and Davis for rights to Luck
Would you trade #1 pick and Willis and Davis for rights to Luck
Sep 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM
- tjd808185
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It's not how the league works anyways. Everything about this question is wrong.
Sep 30, 2011 at 4:14 PM
- cwilson830
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
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Sep 30, 2011 at 5:01 PM
- FlayvaMeister
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As simple as it seemingly is to conjure such thoughts,
your thread makes me wonder ... your Screen Name -
reads RollinWith 21 n 52. Yet you offer up such a suggestion?
Just wondering to what end. I voted no ... IMO, too much
sacrifice-wise (to give up), at this juncture in the teams development.
your thread makes me wonder ... your Screen Name -
reads RollinWith 21 n 52. Yet you offer up such a suggestion?
Just wondering to what end. I voted no ... IMO, too much
sacrifice-wise (to give up), at this juncture in the teams development.
Sep 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM
- MadDog49er
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I think some of you dismissed the idea too abruptly.
It is a crazy amount of talent to give up...but I'd do it because I believe Luck will be a Hall of Fame QB before his NFL career is finished. I think he is the best NFL QB prospect coming out of college since John Elway, which will be 29 years ago on draft day. And, as we all know, superstar QB's win multiple Super Bowls, not great middle linebackers and tight ends.
The only other player I would have been willing to make a comparable deal was Calvin Johnson, who I said in pre-draft notes would break every major WR record before he is retired. These were my two highest graded players since the Stanford horse nixed the Colts.
It is a crazy amount of talent to give up...but I'd do it because I believe Luck will be a Hall of Fame QB before his NFL career is finished. I think he is the best NFL QB prospect coming out of college since John Elway, which will be 29 years ago on draft day. And, as we all know, superstar QB's win multiple Super Bowls, not great middle linebackers and tight ends.
The only other player I would have been willing to make a comparable deal was Calvin Johnson, who I said in pre-draft notes would break every major WR record before he is retired. These were my two highest graded players since the Stanford horse nixed the Colts.
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Sep 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM ]
Oct 2, 2011 at 5:33 PM
- RollinWith21n52
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I think some of you dismissed the idea too abruptly.
It is a crazy amount of talent to give up...but I'd do it because I believe Luck will be a Hall of Fame QB before his NFL career is finished. I think he is the best NFL QB prospect coming out of college since John Elway, which will be 29 years ago on draft day. And, as we all know, superstar QB's win multiple Super Bowls, not great middle linebackers and tight ends.
The only other player I would have been willing to make a comparable deal was Calvin Johnson, who I said in pre-draft notes would break every major WR record before he is retired. These were my two highest graded players since the Stanford horse nixed the Colts.
Thank you MD. This is exactly what I was eluding to. It's not much of a tough question when you ask "would you trade Terrel Brown and a 4th round pick for Andrew Luck," but it seems like that's what the board members want to discuss. The truth is, to get Luck, you have to do 1 of 2 things:
1. End up with the worst record in the NFL (we're not doing that)
2. Give up ALOT. Davis, Willis, 1st round pick; Fitzgerald, Peterson, 1st round pick; AP, Jared Allen, 1st Round pick; etc, etc, etc.
He won't come cheap, but he will be worth it if he's as good as advertised. Clearly SF makes all the sense in the world for him, and maybe, just maybe, Harbaugh and Luck can give us a taste of what Walsh and Montana once were. And as much as I love Willis and VD, they simply won't bring that type of success to our team.
Oct 2, 2011 at 8:00 PM
- Eastcoast49er
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H*ll NO....
Oct 2, 2011 at 8:03 PM
- Eastcoast49er
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H*ll NO....
Oct 2, 2011 at 9:28 PM
- 228niner
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heck nah
Oct 3, 2011 at 12:14 AM
- daWest
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crazy talk
Oct 3, 2011 at 2:10 AM
- English
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Right now an even bigger NO than before.
Oct 3, 2011 at 5:33 AM
- RollinWith21n52
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Originally posted by English:
Right now an even bigger NO than before.
Because Alex is the answer? ahahahahaha
Oct 3, 2011 at 7:22 AM
- English
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Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:Originally posted by English:Right now an even bigger NO than before.
Because Alex is the answer? ahahahahaha
Alex may be the answer. We are just a couple of guys arguing on the Internet, but if we actually some input into decisions then I think we wait and see before we give away half of the franchise to get an untried kid from college.
Next draft we will still have serious needs, depending on how the resigning of our own people goes, we may need a lot of help in the defensive backfield and a stud receiver, and maybe a guard and a center.
Have you noticed how rarely teams give away their best players to get a draft position? Ever wondered why?
Oct 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM
- RollinWith21n52
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Originally posted by English:Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:Originally posted by English:Right now an even bigger NO than before.
Because Alex is the answer? ahahahahaha
Alex may be the answer. We are just a couple of guys arguing on the Internet, but if we actually some input into decisions then I think we wait and see before we give away half of the franchise to get an untried kid from college.
Next draft we will still have serious needs, depending on how the resigning of our own people goes, we may need a lot of help in the defensive backfield and a stud receiver, and maybe a guard and a center.
Have you noticed how rarely teams give away their best players to get a draft position? Ever wondered why?
I see that teams without legit QBs don't go anywhere. Also, when was tge last time a Luck quality QB was available?
Oct 3, 2011 at 8:29 AM
- English
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Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:Originally posted by English:Right now an even bigger NO than before.
Because Alex is the answer? ahahahahaha
Alex may be the answer. We are just a couple of guys arguing on the Internet, but if we actually some input into decisions then I think we wait and see before we give away half of the franchise to get an untried kid from college.
Next draft we will still have serious needs, depending on how the resigning of our own people goes, we may need a lot of help in the defensive backfield and a stud receiver, and maybe a guard and a center.
Have you noticed how rarely teams give away their best players to get a draft position? Ever wondered why?
I see that teams without legit QBs don't go anywhere. Also, when was tge last time a Luck quality QB was available?
Well, we will see if we have a legit NFL qb. Whilst I agree your point about a Luck calibre QB, you don't actually need one. Like, Marino and his Superbowl record. And, of course, good as he looks now, no draftee carries a guarantee.
Oct 3, 2011 at 8:32 AM
- bzborow1
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I initially thought, "hell no". However, after looking at this further, I would say why not? We've had Patrick Willis and V-Davis for years now, and what has our record been? Simply put, you are not going to win multiple championships with a stud linebacker and an very good TE, but you will with a franchise-caliber quarterback. We'd also shed massive salary in the process.
The question is, if you were the Colts, would you? I wouldn't.
The question is, if you were the Colts, would you? I wouldn't.