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Mar 2, 2010 at 5:13 PM
- PA9erFaithful
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No thank you Pat, I don't want Taylor Mays. GTFO.
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Mays is not anywhere near as bad as he is made out to be on this board. Every single year the WZ falls in love with a player and in hate with a player for the draft.
This year it's these.
Love: CJ Spiller.
Hate: Taylor Mays.
Everywhere in the U.S. other than the 49ersWZ Mays is a consensus 1st round pick and a super rare athlete. He wouldn't make a team worse. He would in fact make any team better.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Mar 2, 2010 at 17:17:52 ]
This year it's these.
Love: CJ Spiller.
Hate: Taylor Mays.
Everywhere in the U.S. other than the 49ersWZ Mays is a consensus 1st round pick and a super rare athlete. He wouldn't make a team worse. He would in fact make any team better.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Mar 2, 2010 at 17:17:52 ]
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:18 PM
- tohara3
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I hate the 2nd pick
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:19 PM
- ezekiel40
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If Berry makes it to Jacksonville's pick we should trade up to get him. If Williams is there at 13 he should make it to 17, and IMO it's worth the risk that he doesn't make it to 17.
And if Williams doesn't make it to 17, it's easy. Just draft Graham or Spiller and pick up a tackle later.
[ Edited by ezekiel40 on Mar 2, 2010 at 17:21:46 ]
And if Williams doesn't make it to 17, it's easy. Just draft Graham or Spiller and pick up a tackle later.
[ Edited by ezekiel40 on Mar 2, 2010 at 17:21:46 ]
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:19 PM
- toeknee
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I really hope we get Trent Williams
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM
- FredFlintstone
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burn this draft
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:28 PM
- znk916
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mays is not anywhere near as bad as he is made out to be on this board. Every single year the WZ falls in love with a player and in hate with a player for the draft.
This year it's these.
Love: CJ Spiller.
Hate: Taylor Mays.
Everywhere in the U.S. other than the 49ersWZ Mays is a consensus 1st round pick and a super rare athlete. He wouldn't make a team worse. He would in fact make any team better.
Exactly correct about how Spiller is worshipped around here and Mays is spit upon.
However, I don't really think we're in the market for a safety with so many questions marks about Mays' actual skill on the field, when we already have a couple years invested into Reggie Smith (keep in mind Goldson's first couple years were pretty much wiped out by injuries as well) and the draft is particularly deep at the safety position anyhow.
Mar 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM
- SonocoNinerFan
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mays is not anywhere near as bad as he is made out to be on this board. Every single year the WZ falls in love with a player and in hate with a player for the draft.
This year it's these.
Love: CJ Spiller.
Hate: Taylor Mays.
Everywhere in the U.S. other than the 49ersWZ Mays is a consensus 1st round pick and a super rare athlete. He wouldn't make a team worse. He would in fact make any team better.
Well that's a tad melodramatic . . . but ok. I've seen Mays skills questioned by draft experts many times during Senior Bowl week and since. Even today . . .
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Despite Taylor Mays' impressive showing in the forty-yard dash, SI.com's Tony Pauline points out that the USC safety sported poor form during position drills.
Mays was "terribly slow moving in reverse" and appeared to be "uncomfortable" backpedaling during drills. Mays also had major trouble changing direction, often coming to a complete stop as opposed to making a smooth transition. Pauline believes Mays will have trouble in man coverage and making plays sideline-to-sideline. The same concerns dogged him at the Senior Bowl.
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Mar 2, 2010 at 6:17 PM
- noobie
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Dez Bryant at 25? I would take him at 17 in a second.
Mar 2, 2010 at 6:19 PM
- LottOfDefense
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Can't see the Browns taking Haden with Berry available or the Bills taking McClain with Williams available.
Mar 2, 2010 at 6:20 PM
- evil
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Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
Can't see the Browns taking Haden with Berry available or the Bills taking McClain with Williams available.
Browns I agree, Bills is a possibility. Williams could be viewed as a RT only by them so McClain would be ranked higher at that point.
Mar 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM
- LottOfDefense
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Originally posted by KRS-1:Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
Can't see the Browns taking Haden with Berry available or the Bills taking McClain with Williams available.
Browns I agree, Bills is a possibility. Williams could be viewed as a RT only by them so McClain would be ranked higher at that point.
I hope you are right because Williams is a perfect fit at RT for the 9ers.
Mar 2, 2010 at 6:28 PM
- ninertico
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Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mays is not anywhere near as bad as he is made out to be on this board. Every single year the WZ falls in love with a player and in hate with a player for the draft.
This year it's these.
Love: CJ Spiller.
Hate: Taylor Mays.
Everywhere in the U.S. other than the 49ersWZ Mays is a consensus 1st round pick and a super rare athlete. He wouldn't make a team worse. He would in fact make any team better.
Well that's a tad melodramatic . . . but ok. I've seen Mays skills questioned by draft experts many times during Senior Bowl week and since. Even today . . .
Quote:
Despite Taylor Mays' impressive showing in the forty-yard dash, SI.com's Tony Pauline points out that the USC safety sported poor form during position drills.
Mays was "terribly slow moving in reverse" and appeared to be "uncomfortable" backpedaling during drills. Mays also had major trouble changing direction, often coming to a complete stop as opposed to making a smooth transition. Pauline believes Mays will have trouble in man coverage and making plays sideline-to-sideline. The same concerns dogged him at the Senior Bowl.
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Well, there you are. You are either fluid in your backpedal or not. Obviously, he's going to have to develop that skill much faster or maybe he can't at the NFL level. You would think that the college coaches would have found a way to correct that or at least improve on it.
However, I do realize that he was asked to be more toward the LOS than his Junior season, but c'mon now. How long do we have to wait to get that skill straight.
Nope, I would rather take Thomas who fits our FS position better than Goldson who seems a natural born killer for the SS!
Just my observation...
Mar 2, 2010 at 6:29 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mays is not anywhere near as bad as he is made out to be on this board. Every single year the WZ falls in love with a player and in hate with a player for the draft.
This year it's these.
Love: CJ Spiller.
Hate: Taylor Mays.
Everywhere in the U.S. other than the 49ersWZ Mays is a consensus 1st round pick and a super rare athlete. He wouldn't make a team worse. He would in fact make any team better.
That would be because Spiller not only showed his stuff and the combine but actually was a star on the field in college. Mays? Not so much when it counted.