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Houston Astros stole signs throughout their 2017 championship season.
Jan 13, 2020 at 12:14 PM
- JustinMT
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Oh s**t, now the Astros have fired them both. lol
Jan 13, 2020 at 12:14 PM
- DeepNinerValue
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Good riddance
[ Edited by Garce on Jan 13, 2020 at 12:14 PM ]
Jan 13, 2020 at 1:17 PM
- Rubberneck36
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Originally posted by JustinMT:
Oh s**t, now the Astros have fired them both. lol
The whole thing was worth it to the Astros. They still have a very talented team and won a WS. The penalty doesn't fit the crime.
$5M is a drop in the bucket. 4 picks is big but not that big.
Jan 13, 2020 at 1:18 PM
- RishikeshA
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Wow, this is worse than a death penalty. Guys used steroids for years and little to no response from MLB. However, steal a sign and go straight to hell.
Jan 13, 2020 at 1:47 PM
- socal9er42
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Astro's Owner says that World Series victory "Not Tainted" by this. 
Jan 13, 2020 at 1:59 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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So players weren't punished. I guess the MLB doesnt want to have to deal with MLBPA or something.
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:10 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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As if things aren't bad enough, Astros players are guaranteed to hear Ace of Base at all 81 road games next year.
— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) January 13, 2020
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:12 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
As if things aren't bad enough, Astros players are guaranteed to hear Ace of Base at all 81 road games next year.
— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) January 13, 2020
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:14 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Wow, this is worse than a death penalty.
LOL. No it isnt. Not even close
Guys used steroids for years and little to no response from MLB.
There are rules in place for this now. What kind of response are you expecting from MLB. The system they have in place works.
However, steal a sign and go straight to hell.
No longer sure if you are being facetious with this post or not.
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:18 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
The whole thing was worth it to the Astros. They still have a very talented team and won a WS. The penalty doesn't fit the crime.
$5M is a drop in the bucket. 4 picks is big but not that big.
1000% agree.
Ask a fan of any team (or front office member for that matter). Would you pay $5M and lose 4 draft picks for a title? I think the Yankees may be the only team in baseball that would turn that idea down. Everyone else would sign up so quick.
Bottom line is, MLB explicitly stated that the punishment would be harsh enough that teams wouldnt do this again. I think they categorically failed if that was their true intent. This tweet put it best:
"We're going to suspend your manager and GM for a year."
— Dave (@gggiants) January 13, 2020
"Ok."
"And take away 2 years' worth of high draft picks."
"Uh huh."
"And fine you $5 million."
"Got it. We still get to keep our World Series championship?"
"Well yes but-"
"Cool, thanks!"
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:20 PM
- JustinMT
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Originally posted by RishikeshA:Wow, this is worse than a death penalty. Guys used steroids for years and little to no response from MLB. However, steal a sign and go straight to hell.
Lol no it isn't.
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM
- VaBeachNiner
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What I find stupid is that the players were in on this. In a sport where doing a bad thing gets a player in trouble (drugs, peds, steroids, domestic violence, etc), no Astros player will get punished. Incredible.
Jan 13, 2020 at 2:56 PM
- TonyStarks
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Wow. Players are going in on Altuve,Springer and Correa on twitter.
" I'd like my career numbers erased against them."
" I'd like my career numbers erased against them."
[ Edited by TonyStarks on Jan 13, 2020 at 2:56 PM ]
Jan 13, 2020 at 3:22 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Originally posted by Rubberneck36:The whole thing was worth it to the Astros. They still have a very talented team and won a WS. The penalty doesn't fit the crime.
$5M is a drop in the bucket. 4 picks is big but not that big.
1000% agree.
Ask a fan of any team (or front office member for that matter). Would you pay $5M and lose 4 draft picks for a title? I think the Yankees may be the only team in baseball that would turn that idea down. Everyone else would sign up so quick.
Bottom line is, MLB explicitly stated that the punishment would be harsh enough that teams wouldnt do this again. I think they categorically failed if that was their true intent. This tweet put it best:
"We're going to suspend your manager and GM for a year."
— Dave (@gggiants) January 13, 2020
"Ok."
"And take away 2 years' worth of high draft picks."
"Uh huh."
"And fine you $5 million."
"Got it. We still get to keep our World Series championship?"
"Well yes but-"
"Cool, thanks!"
And MLB doesn't understand why most fans just laugh at the league now. Drugs in the 80s, roids on the 90s and 2000s, juiced balls, and now this. South American soccer leagues have more integrity than the MLB.
Jan 13, 2020 at 3:44 PM
- MRNINESEVEN
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I thought the Astros got off very easily. No post season ban??? Man again sports dropping the ball. What a shame