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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

Same here. As for overpaying, I think I've shown how overpaying ruins the cap, look at NO, 2 yrs they were more than $75m over the cap. They'll just be in the same problem a few years down the road, don't overpay for FAs that aren't worth that money.

Sounds like they are already under again.
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Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

That'd be a fun exercise. We've got a number of players who've reset markets or were close to it...but very few play makers based off last year's production (i.e. Juice, Kittle, Williams, Armstead & Warner).

Williams (certainly) and Armstead (probably at 3T) came the closest to earning their respective APY contracts per 2021.

But soon Bosa and Deebo will enter the top 5 and I'd love to see them stacked up. But our top 5 doesn't include a QB.

That said, football is a tad more than who your top 5 players are.
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 27, 2022 at 4:17 AM ]
This is what bothers me. Idiots like Cohn and his Sith Lord father say to trade kittle and other star players for draft picks.

and what do you hope to get for those draft picks… hopefully Somone as good as kittle. We've done this exact thing with Buckner. It's highly improbable you get Somone of equal talent with your picks.

why trade your star players and hope to get one back. It's simply idiotic to me.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
As for our top players, I'll take these guys over a lot of supposed top 3 rosters.

FB Juice
WR Deebo
WR Aiyuk
TE Kittle
LT Trent
DE Bosa
DT Armstead
MLB Warner
FS Ward

Isn't it criminal how little we use juice though. It's so little the other team is almost never prepared for it
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

That'd be a fun exercise. We've got a number of players who've reset markets or were close to it...but very few play makers based off last year's production (i.e. Juice, Kittle, Williams, Armstead & Warner).

Williams (certainly) and Armstead (probably at 3T) came the closest to earning their respective APY contracts per 2021.

But soon Bosa and Deebo will enter the top 5 and I'd love to see them stacked up. But our top 5 doesn't include a QB.

That said, football is a tad more than who your top 5 players are.

Kittle is so good that 910 yards + 6 TD's and 4th in receiving yards for a TE is a down year.
Having Trey on that rookie contract for 3 more year plus the option year is important and the reason that they can't afford Jimmy. His cap hit would be 13% of the $ 208 million. No team has won a SB with a QB eating up more than 12% with most down around 10%. You can't build good support around a QB that take sup too much of your money. Rodgers is the perfect example. He's got talent but not much around him so he only has one SB ring.

By the time Trey proves he's deserving of big pay day, Kittle may be gone because of injuries and Williams will probably be retired. Hopefully we keep Bosa but he could chose to go elsewhere. That could open up a lot of cap room if they can replace those guys thru the draft. They have 3 years to do it.
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
This is what bothers me. Idiots like Cohn and his Sith Lord father say to trade kittle and other star players for draft picks.

and what do you hope to get for those draft picks… hopefully Somone as good as kittle. We've done this exact thing with Buckner. It's highly improbable you get Somone of equal talent with your picks.

why trade your star players and hope to get one back. It's simply idiotic to me.

Dont even read their crap. Its clickbait BS. They make money riling people up. Best thing is to ignore them.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

Same here. As for overpaying, I think I've shown how overpaying ruins the cap, look at NO, 2 yrs they were more than $75m over the cap. They'll just be in the same problem a few years down the road, don't overpay for FAs that aren't worth that money.

I think some people are seriously undervaluing just how loaded this team is with top shelf talent at premium positions. This isn't just a deep team, it's a team with serious talent at the most important positions
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
As for our top players, I'll take these guys over a lot of supposed top 3 rosters.

FB Juice
WR Deebo
WR Aiyuk
TE Kittle
LT Trent
DE Bosa
DT Armstead
MLB Warner
FS Ward

Isn't it criminal how little we use juice though. It's so little the other team is almost never prepared for it

Juice is used in every play he's on the field he just doesn't always have the ball in his hands. His protection blocking is beyond valuable. Same reason kittle did t get the ball late in the year protection.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

Same here. As for overpaying, I think I've shown how overpaying ruins the cap, look at NO, 2 yrs they were more than $75m over the cap. They'll just be in the same problem a few years down the road, don't overpay for FAs that aren't worth that money.

Sounds like they are already under again.

They're pushing it down the road again, they'll be over again next year, and fact is they don't have a QB, and their Coach retired, cause of how bad they are IMO anyway.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Having Trey on that rookie contract for 3 more year plus the option year is important and the reason that they can't afford Jimmy. His cap hit would be 13% of the $ 208 million. No team has won a SB with a QB eating up more than 12% with most down around 10%. You can't build good support around a QB that take sup too much of your money. Rodgers is the perfect example. He's got talent but not much around him so he only has one SB ring.

By the time Trey proves he's deserving of big pay day, Kittle may be gone because of injuries and Williams will probably be retired. Hopefully we keep Bosa but he could chose to go elsewhere. That could open up a lot of cap room if they can replace those guys thru the draft. They have 3 years to do it.

Don't worry about Bosa, his deal will be a 5yr extension through 2027, he's not going anywhere, the 49ers won't allow it. Same with Trent, Kittle, Warner, Deebo, Aiyuk, Armstead, Ward, etc... I'm not even worried at all about this year or the future, their cap is in great shape, having Trey will really help get Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, and others re-signed/extended.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

Same here. As for overpaying, I think I've shown how overpaying ruins the cap, look at NO, 2 yrs they were more than $75m over the cap. They'll just be in the same problem a few years down the road, don't overpay for FAs that aren't worth that money.

I think some people are seriously undervaluing just how loaded this team is with top shelf talent at premium positions. This isn't just a deep team, it's a team with serious talent at the most important positions

Us? Yes, we are a deep team, we have a good amount of young core guys who are under team control for a while, Jennings, he's a ERFA this year, in 2023, then RFA in 2024, UFA in 2025, Givens, McKivitz are ERFAs this year, RFAs in 2023, and UFAs in 2024.

Originally posted by Scooper1:
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
As for our top players, I'll take these guys over a lot of supposed top 3 rosters.

FB Juice
WR Deebo
WR Aiyuk
TE Kittle
LT Trent
DE Bosa
DT Armstead
MLB Warner
FS Ward

Isn't it criminal how little we use juice though. It's so little the other team is almost never prepared for it

Juice is used in every play he's on the field he just doesn't always have the ball in his hands. His protection blocking is beyond valuable. Same reason kittle did t get the ball late in the year protection.

Yeah, Juice is in on about every play, with other options like Mitchell, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, Jennings, there isn't a lot of balls to go around, since we pass maybe 30 times a game, and yes his blocking is so damn valuable, it makes it worth it with the contract he got.
I am not a fan of picking up Patterson as Deebo II. He's going to be 31 next month and he would be pretty expensive.
Originally posted by kirkscrafford:
I am not a fan of picking up Patterson as Deebo II. He's going to be 31 next month and he would be pretty expensive.

Yeah I'll pass on that as well.
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

That'd be a fun exercise. We've got a number of players who've reset markets or were close to it...but very few play makers based off last year's production (i.e. Juice, Kittle, Williams, Armstead & Warner).

Williams (certainly) and Armstead (probably at 3T) came the closest to earning their respective APY contracts per 2021.

But soon Bosa and Deebo will enter the top 5 and I'd love to see them stacked up. But our top 5 doesn't include a QB.

That said, football is a tad more than who your top 5 players are.

Kittle is so good that 910 yards + 6 TD's and 4th in receiving yards for a TE is a down year.

Facts. Nearly half of those yards were from 2 games though. He's obviously one of the very best in the game...just speaking to APY for last year. He's always going to worth it to us in our system.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting thoughts. Yeah, at some point you'll need to pay Trey what, $45-50M+ IF he's good. Trent Williams isn't getting any younger, Kittle still won't get surgery and is constantly beat up, etc. After you pay Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk, Tomlinson, etc. you're kind of going all-in on your core players. You've got the young rookie QB on a rookie contract for 3 more years. You'll have 10+ draft picks.

Is the time to strike now IF the FA's are there? "Overpay" is a relative term for market value of free agents in 2022.

The key is getting the right hits in the draft and free agency.

At the end of this off season, I'm hoping ShanaLynch will comfortably be able to say, they truly have a top 2-3 roster now esp. at the key positions.

I'd put our top 5 players up against any other team.

Same here. As for overpaying, I think I've shown how overpaying ruins the cap, look at NO, 2 yrs they were more than $75m over the cap. They'll just be in the same problem a few years down the road, don't overpay for FAs that aren't worth that money.

Sounds like they are already under again.

They're pushing it down the road again, they'll be over again next year, and fact is they don't have a QB, and their Coach retired, cause of how bad they are IMO anyway.

I was more impressed how quickly they got under with that large figure. They aren't a threat until they get a QB...agreed. But that's another topic.
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