49ers 2026 Salary Cap=$44,753,782 of 9/18/26 on a $340.1M adjusted salary cap

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
when do the cap numbers come out?

Aaron Wilson who covers the Texans has been tweeting out numbers for every FA signee, so sometime today or tomorrow.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Still, truth is the truth.

Its not even the same team. There are a lot of spots still TBD.

Williams and Mack gets us back to basics. AZ just got better.

We're going to need more than what we have at EDGE. Project. Bosa to be 80% of what he was. Ebukham or whatever isn't enough as I read what Ram fans are saying (just as I see our Spoon analysis on his way to the Hawks).

Ward is still injury-prone and so is Verrett.
Moseley is our most durable/reliable player who will see AJ Green and Hopkins x2 a year. No question Edge is a priority.

The WR room still has River Craft in it. Deebo has never played a full season. Aiyuk is coming on strong but Bournes reliability will be missed. Still need a burner to give Kittle some room.

Mack is prob a 2-year deal so save a mid round pick for C or G.

IMHO, keeping Verrett and Juice was tablestakes as neither had a huge market outside of the Niners. No one was going to pay Juice what we were going to.

We're in decent hands, I just don't think we should be done in FA and we've done well at maintenance, possibly getting us a little closer to what we had in 2019, but I'd say don't fall into the psychology of cap scarcity. I don't even read when Lynch says "if we can afford it." Lol. Never forget we were told the team couldn't afford Buck and Armstead yet we're afford Armstead and Trent who's way way way way more expensive than Buck.

An elite LT even if he's getting older is way way way more valuable than an elite DT.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
An elite LT even if he's getting older is way way way more valuable than an elite DT.

It's not about value, it's about message. Just come right out and say "we didn't want to pay Buck so we had to OVERPAY Armstead."

It wasn't all about AA over Buck, we chose to keep AA, Ward & Kittle with the cap room it would have taken to sign Buckner. Plus we didn't even have Trent at the time. Plus people realize or need to, that guys like Deebo, Warner, Bosa, now Aiyuk, Kinlaw and Greenlaw will get new deals(Warner and Bosa will be HUGE deals).

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
An elite LT even if he's getting older is way way way more valuable than an elite DT.

And an elite DT is way, way, way more valuable than average, mediocre players like Arik Armstead, Jimmie Ward, etc.

Football team-building is simple: Pay your elite players; let your fringe players walk. They f**ked up with Defo--period. Our DL would look so much better right now with Defo and Bosa as the centerpieces. Instead, it's Bosa and a bunch of questions.

Really want to see the cap now. My guess is we still have enough foe Kwuan and Hyder. Idk if can get anything else though, at least not starter material guys.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
An elite LT even if he's getting older is way way way more valuable than an elite DT.

And an elite DT is way, way, way more valuable than average, mediocre players like Arik Armstead, Jimmie Ward, etc.

Football team-building is simple: Pay your elite players; let your fringe players walk. They f**ked up with Defo--period. Our DL would look so much better right now with Defo and Bosa as the centerpieces. Instead, it's Bosa and a bunch of questions.

the year we paid ward, he was playing well above average, almost pro bowl level.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
An elite LT even if he's getting older is way way way more valuable than an elite DT.

And an elite DT is way, way, way more valuable than average, mediocre players like Arik Armstead, Jimmie Ward, etc.

Football team-building is simple: Pay your elite players; let your fringe players walk. They f**ked up with Defo--period. Our DL would look so much better right now with Defo and Bosa as the centerpieces. Instead, it's Bosa and a bunch of questions.

If you think AA and Ward are mediocre I'm not going to waste my time here, lmao

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
the year we paid ward, he was playing well above average, almost pro bowl level.

He's never played at a Pro Bowl level unless it's against the Rams. Jimmie does his job--nothing more, nothing less.

Defo has been at that level since day 1. Again, they f**ked up. Let's just hope they learned from it.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
If you think AA and Ward are mediocre I'm not going to waste my time here, lmao

Yes, I use my eyes and not PFF ratings. They are the definition of mediocre, especially Arik Armstead, who--despite being in the league 6 years--hasn't developed a counter move to his bullrush and still struggles to get off the ball. Imagine struggling to consistently get off the ball in a wide 9 Kocurek front.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Still, truth is the truth.

Its not even the same team. There are a lot of spots still TBD.

Williams and Mack gets us back to basics. AZ just got better.

We're going to need more than what we have at EDGE. Project. Bosa to be 80% of what he was. Ebukham or whatever isn't enough as I read what Ram fans are saying (just as I see our Spoon analysis on his way to the Hawks).

Ward is still injury-prone and so is Verrett.
Moseley is our most durable/reliable player who will see AJ Green and Hopkins x2 a year. No question Edge is a priority.

The WR room still has River Craft in it. Deebo has never played a full season. Aiyuk is coming on strong but Bournes reliability will be missed. Still need a burner to give Kittle some room.

Mack is prob a 2-year deal so save a mid round pick for C or G.

IMHO, keeping Verrett and Juice was tablestakes as neither had a huge market outside of the Niners. No one was going to pay Juice what we were going to.

We're in decent hands, I just don't think we should be done in FA and we've done well at maintenance, possibly getting us a little closer to what we had in 2019, but I'd say don't fall into the psychology of cap scarcity. I don't even read when Lynch says "if we can afford it." Lol. Never forget we were told the team couldn't afford Buck and Armstead yet we're afford Armstead and Trent who's way way way way more expensive than Buck.

In the cap era, every team has holes to fill in the off season. For the 9ers (and most other potential top teams) it will all come down to health

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Still, truth is the truth.

Its not even the same team. There are a lot of spots still TBD.

Williams and Mack gets us back to basics. AZ just got better.

We're going to need more than what we have at EDGE. Project. Bosa to be 80% of what he was. Ebukham or whatever isn't enough as I read what Ram fans are saying (just as I see our Spoon analysis on his way to the Hawks).

Ward is still injury-prone and so is Verrett.
Moseley is our most durable/reliable player who will see AJ Green and Hopkins x2 a year. No question Edge is a priority.

The WR room still has River Craft in it. Deebo has never played a full season. Aiyuk is coming on strong but Bournes reliability will be missed. Still need a burner to give Kittle some room.

Mack is prob a 2-year deal so save a mid round pick for C or G.

IMHO, keeping Verrett and Juice was tablestakes as neither had a huge market outside of the Niners. No one was going to pay Juice what we were going to.

We're in decent hands, I just don't think we should be done in FA and we've done well at maintenance, possibly getting us a little closer to what we had in 2019, but I'd say don't fall into the psychology of cap scarcity. I don't even read when Lynch says "if we can afford it." Lol. Never forget we were told the team couldn't afford Buck and Armstead yet we're afford Armstead and Trent who's way way way way more expensive than Buck.

AZ is a 9-7 team when healthy. AJ green ain't s**t. If niners stay healthy we will be fine

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
the year we paid ward, he was playing well above average, almost pro bowl level.

He's never played at a Pro Bowl level unless it's against the Rams. Jimmie does his job--nothing more, nothing less.

Defo has been at that level since day 1. Again, they f**ked up. Let's just hope they learned from it.

I disagree with DeFo, he wasn't great since day 1, he had his ups and downs, plus he's too slim, he was getting pushed around, Kinlaw is a much bigger 3T, I truly have faith he'll end up being as good as DeFo. I have no issue with the trade, cause without, we don't get that 4th from TB to get Aiyuk in a trade up. Like I said, it wasn't Defo or AA, it was AA, Ward, & Kittle or DeFo, we couldn't afford Kittle & DeFo. It sucks, I wish we could have kept him, but I'm good with it a yr later.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
the year we paid ward, he was playing well above average, almost pro bowl level.

YYeah that one season and 1/2 a Chargers game

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
the year we paid ward, he was playing well above average, almost pro bowl level.

YYeah that one season and 1/2 a Chargers game

all I'm saying is he wasn't the reason last year went the way it did.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
the year we paid ward, he was playing well above average, almost pro bowl level.

He's never played at a Pro Bowl level unless it's against the Rams. Jimmie does his job--nothing more, nothing less.

Defo has been at that level since day 1. Again, they f**ked up. Let's just hope they learned from it.

I disagree with DeFo, he wasn't great since day 1, he had his ups and downs, plus he's too slim, he was getting pushed around, Kinlaw is a much bigger 3T, I truly have faith he'll end up being as good as DeFo. I have no issue with the trade, cause without, we don't get that 4th from TB to get Aiyuk in a trade up. Like I said, it wasn't Defo or AA, it was AA, Ward, & Kittle or DeFo, we couldn't afford Kittle & DeFo. It sucks, I wish we could have kept him, but I'm good with it a yr later.

Yeah, I think sometimes as fans it can feel like a team like the Chiefs can just sign whomever and the cap doesn't really exist. It does. The Chiefs still have key players as free agents. If they had signed Trent, they would still have had to figure who how to replace both starting CB's, starting FS, starting C, RG and RT, starting RB, RB2, RB3, and WR2.