Keeping Mac Jones as a Backup

I would tend to say if we could get a 3rd or better for Mac, we should do it to rebuild this roster. Kyle has shown the ability to get the best out of multiple project QB's. Moving Mac and signing another backup would be smart.

However, Mac is on a cheap $4M cap hit next year and we've seen that he's very good under Kyle's scheme. I'd actually keep Mac.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I hope they can keep Jones for another year. They already have enough issues to address.

Trading Mac helps address an issue. Let's be honest if Purdy gets injured they aren't winning a Super Bowl anyway. A 2nd round pick is more important than a backup QB you pray never has to play for this team. Definitely when he is gone in 27 anyway

Question is does this team trust that Purdy can stay healthy because he's been hurt a lot in his short career here and plays an incredibly aggressive style of football for a smaller guy. Otherwise they need a dependable and proven #2.

I don't think they can trust that he stays healthy. But the question is can Mac lead a depleted roster to a super bowl if Purdy goes down? Unlikely, also he is gone next year. You can find another backup QB

Would we rather have a Backup QB for 1 year or a potential starting player for 4+ years

Originally posted by Brucey72:
I don't think they can trust that he stays healthy. But the question is can Mac lead a depleted roster to a super bowl if Purdy goes down? Unlikely, also he is gone next year. You can find another backup QB

If we keep him next year and he leaves for FA after that, he's likely to get a pretty big deal somewhere else which would more than likely result in a high comp pick.

I'd keep him next year and get the draft capital via compensatory pick a year later.

Originally posted by ScoutingBall:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
I don't think they can trust that he stays healthy. But the question is can Mac lead a depleted roster to a super bowl if Purdy goes down? Unlikely, also he is gone next year. You can find another backup QB

If we keep him next year and he leaves for FA after that, he's likely to get a pretty big deal somewhere else which would more than likely result in a high comp pick.

I'd keep him next year and get the draft capital via compensatory pick a year later.

The comp pick wouldn't be awarded until 28. That's an awful long time away. I pick a 2nd in 26 over a comp 3rd in 28

Originally posted by Brucey72:
The comp pick wouldn't be awarded until 28. That's an awful long time away. I pick a 2nd in 26 over a comp 3rd in 28

If a team offers a 2nd, I'd do it. I'm hesitant to believe anyone would actually offer a 2nd though. More likely a 3rd which is why I say keep him as a known insurance policy and take the 3rd round compensatory pick down the road.

Jones @ $4M and a 3rd COMP in 28 > unknown at backup QB and a 3rd in 26

Originally posted by ScoutingBall:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
The comp pick wouldn't be awarded until 28. That's an awful long time away. I pick a 2nd in 26 over a comp 3rd in 28

If a team offers a 2nd, I'd do it. I'm hesitant to believe anyone would actually offer a 2nd though. More likely a 3rd which is why I say keep him as a known insurance policy and take the 3rd round compensatory pick down the road.

Jones @ $4M and a 3rd COMP in 28 > unknown at backup QB and a 3rd in 26

I agree. Unless someone offers up a really enticing package for him I wouldn't move on from him at all. There are still questions about Brock Purdy's performance, turnovers, and injury history.

Originally posted by ScoutingBall:

Originally posted by Brucey72:
The comp pick wouldn't be awarded until 28. That's an awful long time away. I pick a 2nd in 26 over a comp 3rd in 28

If a team offers a 2nd, I'd do it. I'm hesitant to believe anyone would actually offer a 2nd though. More likely a 3rd which is why I say keep him as a known insurance policy and take the 3rd round compensatory pick down the road.

Jones @ $4M and a 3rd COMP in 28 > unknown at backup QB and a 3rd in 26

Oh I agree if it's not a 2nd or 2 3rds then you say no

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Mac for Stroud and a 2nd. Let Shanny fix Stroud and trade him later for a 2nd or 3rd. . Win win for Houston and the 49ers.

Nope. Financials make no sense.

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Wilson doesn't have the tools.

Totally agree. ALL of the QBs have put up numbers, but only three actually won. I say we keep Mac unless he asks for a trade and someone offers better than a 3rd.

If he didn't have the tools he wouldn't have gone #2 overall. It's more that he chooses to try to be Josh Allen/Patrick Mahomes, where he should be trying to be Drew Brees/Brock Purdy. Kyle can fix that, and if he can't who cares? Back Rourke in that situation.

1. That was 5 years ago. Draft status means nothing at this point in his career.

2. If it were about draft status, why not bring in Trey Lance or Justin Fields?

3. When Tua was benched, they didn't go to Wilson.

They guy has has no success in a 5 year NFL career. He does not have the tools.

Originally posted by Brucey72:
He deserves a chance to start and they have way too many needs to turn down draft capital. I'm sure there will be be castoff QBs who will want to play with Kyle after Darnold and Mac both came here as backups and got another chance

If there's a truly highly regarded QB, sure. But who fits that profile? Maybe Kirk Cousins if Atlanta releases him lol. As for young guys, Bryce Young turned it around so he is out. No to Tua. Who else is there realistically?

There isn't really anyone that sticks out but nobody really thought Jones or Darnold could do it either. Both were on castaway by 2 teams already. A guy fits that mold is Pickett but I don't see him being successful. Interesting name to me is Sam Howell to compete with Rourke.

Obviously I would rather have Jones over them but there are so many holes are the team and if you can get a good draft pick you have to. Teams could be desperate bc the only good free agent option is Willis and only draft option is Mendoza. Unless someone is talked into overdrafting a QB.

Teams that have question marks at QB
Miami, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Raiders, Colts (Jones injury), Falcons (new coach/GM), Arizona, Vikings

Howell is an interesting name. I still want a 2nd at minimum however.

Mac deserves to be able to decide what he wants. Not in terms of rejecting trades but if he wants to stay, fine. If he wants to go to a team where he can start, we should let him. We will get a decently high pick for him if we trade him.

I wouldn't be apposed to trading him for an established player, not convinced they would make the right pick anyways.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
I wouldn't be apposed to trading him for an established player, not convinced they would make the right pick anyways.

I like this idea too, but I feel like Mac is more of a bridge QB candidate than he is someone you'd want to build around long term. To me, that makes a trading team more likely to be in a situation where they are a QB away, and less willing to move good players.

Plus I don't think ownership wants to take on big contracts or players due to get one.

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I hope they can keep Jones for another year. They already have enough issues to address.

Trading Mac helps address an issue. Let's be honest if Purdy gets injured they aren't winning a Super Bowl anyway. A 2nd round pick is more important than a backup QB you pray never has to play for this team. Definitely when he is gone in 27 anyway

Question is does this team trust that Purdy can stay healthy because he's been hurt a lot in his short career here and plays an incredibly aggressive style of football for a smaller guy. Otherwise they need a dependable and proven #2.

I don't think they can trust that he stays healthy. But the question is can Mac lead a depleted roster to a super bowl if Purdy goes down? Unlikely, also he is gone next year. You can find another backup QB

Would we rather have a Backup QB for 1 year or a potential starting player for 4+ years

Love the optimism in John and Kyle's drafting ability but it's way more likely a 2nd or 3rd rounder turns into Drake Jackson than another starter.

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I hope they can keep Jones for another year. They already have enough issues to address.

Trading Mac helps address an issue. Let's be honest if Purdy gets injured they aren't winning a Super Bowl anyway. A 2nd round pick is more important than a backup QB you pray never has to play for this team. Definitely when he is gone in 27 anyway

Question is does this team trust that Purdy can stay healthy because he's been hurt a lot in his short career here and plays an incredibly aggressive style of football for a smaller guy. Otherwise they need a dependable and proven #2.

I don't think they can trust that he stays healthy. But the question is can Mac lead a depleted roster to a super bowl if Purdy goes down? Unlikely, also he is gone next year. You can find another backup QB

Would we rather have a Backup QB for 1 year or a potential starting player for 4+ years

That is just an unrealistic expectation.

Even the Joe Montana and Tom Brady's of the world are effected by depleted rosters

Personally, trade him...it's going to take more then a single season to get the talent of this team to the point we are superbowl favorites ...I am on the use Mac to rebuilt band wagon

Originally posted by ScoutingBall:
If a team offers a 2nd, I'd do it. I'm hesitant to believe anyone would actually offer a 2nd though. More likely a 3rd which is why I say keep him as a known insurance policy and take the 3rd round compensatory pick down the road.

Jones @ $4M and a 3rd COMP in 28 > unknown at backup QB and a 3rd in 26

A team like the Dolphins has to trim cap so they cant afford give 18 mil to a FA Qb like Malik Willis. Vikings are similarly cap hamstrung.

A 2nd -- or 3rd and 4th/5th would do it for me. Could honestly be camp trade because other teams are gonna want to assess what they have.

Teams with KS offenses will be most likely takers - they can see what he is able to do in structure.

One key factor will be the 9ers assessment will be what Kurtis Rouke has shown inside the building terms of picking up the offense and work ethic. His college highlights look very similar to what KS likes to do - throws aggressively into the middle of the field; accurate; able to hit receivers in stride. Throws a very catchable ball. If he has the brain power / football IQ - the 9ers may be comfortable going with him as QB2.