Who's lived up to there big contract?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Bosa has been a top Defensive End in the league. And he has absolutely lived up to his contract. Kittle lived up to it. Kittle is the face of our franchise and has been underpaid cause the TE market is incredibly underpaid. Trent Williams has been well worth the money. McKivitz has been worthy of his small extension, Greenlaw completely outplayed his small extension years ago, Ward was a baller on his big contract.

Guy is all over the place with his takes.

Personally I hate when fans attack players for injuries like it's something they want to happen. If Patrick Mahomes gets a new deal and tears his ACL the next game was signing him a mistake? Ditto for Lamar and Allen?

IMO bad big contract examples are guys like Albert Haynesworth, Nnamdi Asomugha for the Eagles, Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson with Denver, Kenny Golladay. All guys who got big deals and then simply played like crap.

You can certainly say Deebo was a bad signing for us but he had a pretty good year in 2023 overall. He just never lived up to that 2021 performance.

Yeah and we all forgot the boss contract we have Demo Lenoir signed to. Dudes playing like top 15 CB and paid like a decent starter. The WR contracts were mistakes and we're paying for it this year. But most of the other contracts we've given out have been to absolute foundational players to this team.

Aiyuk deal was a bad one for several reasons, including allowing it to look like he was playing the team. They arguably overpaid but if he had not been injured, he might have proven he was worth it.

Deebo was a bad one. Period.

All the hold outs seem to under perform when they hit the field.

Originally posted by Since07:
I would say Jimmy G, Deebo, and Hargrave all underperformed their contract but that's about it.
Suppose you can say missing games due to injuries affects their impact/worth especially when they have a history of it but when they are winning OPOY and DPOY or multiple all pros you can't blame the front office.
One I'm keeping an eye on is Ayuik, his attitude has been questionable

Jimmy G....lol.....what ever happened to the cult.....disbanded?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by irief:
Great point on Bosa. He just hasn't been the game wrecker TJ is.

TJ hasn't been a game wrecker in the playoffs, Complete non factor.

Basically you can tell the sports radio fans vs the sport metric fans by how they talk in these threads. Statistics instead of film.

If you think Mac has been the equivalent of Brock you are lost in the wilderness.

This year, Mac has stepped in with a running game that is zero and thrown the ball 80 times in 2 games and been great. Think about that for sec? Brock do that?

The context of this thread is contract. Is Brock 50 mill better than Jones. Maybe he is but he has alot to prove in my opinion. Expectations change when you sign for that kind of money.

You can make a case that Aidan Hutchinson has surpassed Bosa.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
This year, Mac has stepped in with a running game that is zero and thrown the ball 80 times in 2 games and been great. Think about that for sec? Brock do that?

The context of this thread is contract. Is Brock 50 mill better than Jones. Maybe he is but he has alot to prove in my opinion. Expectations change when you sign for that kind of money.

Watch the film. He hasn't been great. He's been good but has let multiple opportunities pass right by that Brock routinely hits.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
This year, Mac has stepped in with a running game that is zero and thrown the ball 80 times in 2 games and been great. Think about that for sec? Brock do that?

The context of this thread is contract. Is Brock 50 mill better than Jones. Maybe he is but he has alot to prove in my opinion. Expectations change when you sign for that kind of money.

Watch the film. He hasn't been great. He's been good but has let multiple opportunities pass right by that Brock routinely hits.

Has Brock been great? Tough to argue he's 50M better than Mac.

Gotta come to terms with the fact that Brock's ceiling is good not great. Never be great due to lack of arm talent. Difference in arm talent with Mac is apparent, and he's not even known for arm talent.

Originally posted by irief:
Has Brock been great? Tough to argue he's 50M better than Mac.

Gotta come to terms with the fact that Brock's ceiling is good not great. Never be great due to lack of arm talent. Difference in arm talent with Mac is apparent, and he's not even known for arm talent.

Brock has a better arm that Mac.

If we wanted arm talent they should've kept Darnold. That way they could fold in every big game but hey the qb throws the ball far.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by irief:
Has Brock been great? Tough to argue he's 50M better than Mac.

Gotta come to terms with the fact that Brock's ceiling is good not great. Never be great due to lack of arm talent. Difference in arm talent with Mac is apparent, and he's not even known for arm talent.

Brock has a better arm that Mac.

lol. Mac would've never been drafted top 15 if he had a worse arm than Brock.

Originally posted by irief:
lol. Mac would've never been drafted top 15 if he had a worse arm than Brock.

He does. it's why he misses his spots so badly when he tries to rifle it (int this week, near int last week when MVS knocked it away.)

Tua got drafted top 10 with a weak arm. Bryce went #1 overall.

But hey, clearly the path to future success is getting rid of everyone but Warner. Don't pay anyone else. What could go wrong.

Tuned out at "should consider trading Bosa".

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
This year, Mac has stepped in with a running game that is zero and thrown the ball 80 times in 2 games and been great. Think about that for sec? Brock do that?

The context of this thread is contract. Is Brock 50 mill better than Jones. Maybe he is but he has alot to prove in my opinion. Expectations change when you sign for that kind of money.

Watch the film. He hasn't been great. He's been good but has let multiple opportunities pass right by that Brock routinely hits.

Has Brock been great? Tough to argue he's 50M better than Mac.

Gotta come to terms with the fact that Brock's ceiling is good not great. Never be great due to lack of arm talent. Difference in arm talent with Mac is apparent, and he's not even known for arm talent.

You have avoided literally every fact thrown your way in regards to this conversation so guess why start now…but maybe google Purdy's salary cap hit this year and then Mac's and then check on that 50 mil stuff you and TD are barking about.

Almost every metric available for QB play this season has Purdy along with the elite QBs despite facing one of the tougher matchups missing key skill players around him.

Now maybe as he plays more we see more bad than good but right now you have a 1 game sample size and it doesn't say anything of the sort that you claim.

Originally posted by irief:
You can make a case that Aidan Hutchinson has surpassed Bosa.

Go ahead and make this case…I'm sure it will be filled with lots of interesting points and not "he had 7.5 sacks in 5 games last year and Bosa had 9 in 14 games."

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by irief:
Fair point on bringing up Purdy's year before he signed, but it helps understand his trajectory. Mediocre. NFL top 100 is only the opinion of NFL players, coaches and executives, but I guess they have no credibility compared to WZ posters. 🙂

He also used the pro bowl in defense of Bosa.

I mean not sure either is a great measurement

PB bad barometer for good play in the NFL but NFL Top 100 list 👍

Let's ignore the constant attention the guy gets, one of the league leaders in pressure generated. PFF 91+ grades in each season since the deal was signed…oh and the amazing NFL Top 100 list that apparently means so much or is that only when we're trying to dog Purdy even tho the list is based on last season when he didn't sign the new contract?