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Brock Purdy is too early to tell. 1 game and 2 games missed due to injury is too early.

However it's absurd to claim what op did that Purdy is doubtful and then claim he's choking at end of games when the 1 game is literally a game winning TD drive to the 3rd string TE without WR1, WR2/3(depending if you have JJ or Pearsall higher), WR4, WR5, WR6 and Purdy playing half that game on a bad toe.

Here is a week 1-4 QB chart for QB efficiency for which Purdy doesn't fit.



Here is the QB efficiency chart after the 1 game Purdy played in...vs a top 5 defense missing all those weapons



That would place him above Goff in the more recent chart.

It wasn't his cleanest game but he was still excellent especially when you account for the injuries and the opponent.
Originally posted by irief:
Surprised this is such a triggering topic for some of you.

Good call on adding CMC.

Focusing on upper echelon contracts for the position, so I didn't include Demo. Demo's been a stud though.

Surprised at the love for Bosa. Neither his performance or his availability compares to the elites like Garrett, TJ, Hendrickson, Crosby, etc, since he signed. 8/9 sacks per year is under performing such a massive contract.

I was for trading both Deebo and Aiyuk after their hold outs.

Injuries are always a factor. Can't contribute to a Super Bowl from the sidelines.

Saying Bosa hasn't been as good as Hendrickson is pretty telling. There's more to being an edge rusher than what sack numbers says. Not a single team will take Hendrickson over Bosa.
Originally posted by irief:
Surprised this is such a triggering topic for some of you.

Good call on adding CMC.

Focusing on upper echelon contracts for the position, so I didn't include Demo. Demo's been a stud though.

Surprised at the love for Bosa. Neither his performance or his availability compares to the elites like Garrett, TJ, Hendrickson, Crosby, etc, since he signed. 8/9 sacks per year is under performing such a massive contract.

I was for trading both Deebo and Aiyuk after their hold outs.

Injuries are always a factor. Can't contribute to a Super Bowl from the sidelines.

Injuries cannot be controlled. If a guy rolls up on your knee while it's stuck in the turf it doesn't matter whether you're highly paid or on a rookie deal...that knee is likely going to be torn up.

And you should stop focusing solely on sack numbers. Bosa has been one of the top pressure creating DLmen since signing his new deal just because the sack totals are down doesn't change how impactful he is...unfortunately we may see that soon.
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Originally posted by irief:
Surprised this is such a triggering topic for some of you.

Good call on adding CMC.

Focusing on upper echelon contracts for the position, so I didn't include Demo. Demo's been a stud though.

Surprised at the love for Bosa. Neither his performance or his availability compares to the elites like Garrett, TJ, Hendrickson, Crosby, etc, since he signed. 8/9 sacks per year is under performing such a massive contract.

I was for trading both Deebo and Aiyuk after their hold outs.

Injuries are always a factor. Can't contribute to a Super Bowl from the sidelines.

Surprised by the triggering? must be new to these parts.

As for Bosa, I think he earned his current contract. I do not however think he's earned to be anything close to the top guys going forward. The contract he is on most likely would be the last one I'd give him personally.

There were a few of us wanting to trade Deebo at the time. But you know, we weren't real fans
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Originally posted by genus49:
Injuries cannot be controlled. If a guy rolls up on your knee while it's stuck in the turf it doesn't matter whether you're highly paid or on a rookie deal...that knee is likely going to be torn up.

And you should stop focusing solely on sack numbers. Bosa has been one of the top pressure creating DLmen since signing his new deal just because the sack totals are down doesn't change how impactful he is...unfortunately we may see that soon.

Funny how Arik Armstead wasn't giving the same grace for his contract.
Bosa & Kittle have for sure

Brock and Yuk to early to tell
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I can dig it krizay, but see Bosa as good not great. Never pay great money for good.
Tearing an ACL during a standard pass rush while you're upright shows he's injury prone, and no doubt he has significant injury history.

Brock's recent stats:

2024 Season Stats:

  • Touchdowns: 20
  • Interceptions: 12
  • Passer Rating: 96.1


2025 Season Stats:
  • Touchdowns: 2
  • Interceptions: 2
  • Passer Rating: 92

Not exactly elite and heading in the wrong direction. Doubt other teams would line up to trade for him on his current deal.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
Injuries cannot be controlled. If a guy rolls up on your knee while it's stuck in the turf it doesn't matter whether you're highly paid or on a rookie deal...that knee is likely going to be torn up.

And you should stop focusing solely on sack numbers. Bosa has been one of the top pressure creating DLmen since signing his new deal just because the sack totals are down doesn't change how impactful he is...unfortunately we may see that soon.

Funny how Arik Armstead wasn't giving the same grace for his contract.

He wasn't? I certainly had the same energy for him. Tho Armstead never performed at the same level as Bosa after his deal was done but he played much better than his sack totals showed.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Bosa has been a top Defensive End in the league. And he has absolutely lived up to his contract. Kittle lived up to it. Kittle is the face of our franchise and has been underpaid cause the TE market is incredibly underpaid. Trent Williams has been well worth the money. McKivitz has been worthy of his small extension, Greenlaw completely outplayed his small extension years ago, Ward was a baller on his big contract.


All of this.

Aiyuk is the only one I wish they would have just traded, taken a 2nd rounder and a player in return for.

Hargrave was also an overpay.
Originally posted by krizay:
Surprised by the triggering? must be new to these parts.

As for Bosa, I think he earned his current contract. I do not however think he's earned to be anything close to the top guys going forward. The contract he is on most likely would be the last one I'd give him personally.

There were a few of us wanting to trade Deebo at the time. But you know, we weren't real fans

I hate to be the bearer of bad news krizay but you don't have a say in what the team does. And you most certainly don't pay any of the players.

Each signing they had including Deebo made sense at the time. You don't let a guy who pretty much put the team on his back during those playoffs go out the door for pennies on the dollar.

We can argue about Aiyuk should've been traded but the reality is the injury is a curve ball that will prevent us from really evaluating that move. Obviously looks like a mistake now but it's also been much tougher for the offense ever since Aiyuk was injured. No real presence to concern the defense down the field.
Originally posted by irief:
I can dig it krizay, but see Bosa as good not great. Never pay great money for good.
Tearing an ACL during a standard pass rush while you're upright shows he's injury prone, and no doubt he has significant injury history.

Brock's recent stats:

2024 Season Stats:

  • Touchdowns: 20
  • Interceptions: 12
  • Passer Rating: 96.1


2025 Season Stats:
  • Touchdowns: 2
  • Interceptions: 2
  • Passer Rating: 92

Not exactly elite and heading in the wrong direction. Doubt other teams would line up to trade for him on his current deal.

That's the problem...you're just looking at simple stats like those for QBs and sacks for Bosa.

Look at all the metrics in regards to Purdy's play against a very tough opponent.

Here is another one...does this scream wrong direction?


Seattle defense has faced 4 QBs so far Purdy, Aaron Rodgers, Rattler and Murray.

PFF isn't the ultimate say on how players did but Purdy is easily the highest grade out of the 4 of them and arguably played with the worst situation out of all 4 guys.

Simply put there is no rational reason to claim he's trending in the wrong direction.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
All of this.

Aiyuk is the only one I wish they would have just traded, taken a 2nd rounder and a player in return for.

Hargrave was also an overpay.

Totally agree. Didn't include players who are gone, but no doubt Hargrave and Armstead were fails.
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by irief:
I can dig it krizay, but see Bosa as good not great. Never pay great money for good.
Tearing an ACL during a standard pass rush while you're upright shows he's injury prone, and no doubt he has significant injury history.

Brock's recent stats:

2024 Season Stats:

  • Touchdowns: 20
  • Interceptions: 12
  • Passer Rating: 96.1


2025 Season Stats:
  • Touchdowns: 2
  • Interceptions: 2
  • Passer Rating: 92

Not exactly elite and heading in the wrong direction. Doubt other teams would line up to trade for him on his current deal.

That's the problem...you're just looking at simple stats like those for QBs and sacks for Bosa.

Look at all the metrics in regards to Purdy's play against a very tough opponent.

Here is another one...does this scream wrong direction?


Seattle defense has faced 4 QBs so far Purdy, Aaron Rodgers, Rattler and Murray.

PFF isn't the ultimate say on how players did but Purdy is easily the highest grade out of the 4 of them and arguably played with the worst situation out of all 4 guys.

Simply put there is no rational reason to claim he's trending in the wrong direction.

I think you're over analyzing to fit your narrative, rather than seeing the obvious. Recent Brock Purdy performance has not been anywhere near elite. Seems to be consensus around the league. Hope he turns it around, but seems mediocre at best these days.

Tough to ignore the simple stats. Hence his ranking in this year's NFL top 100.
[ Edited by irief on Sep 26, 2025 at 11:44 AM ]
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Originally posted by genus49:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news krizay but you don't have a say in what the team does. And you most certainly don't pay any of the players.

Each signing they had including Deebo made sense at the time. You don't let a guy who pretty much put the team on his back during those playoffs go out the door for pennies on the dollar.

We can argue about Aiyuk should've been traded but the reality is the injury is a curve ball that will prevent us from really evaluating that move. Obviously looks like a mistake now but it's also been much tougher for the offense ever since Aiyuk was injured. No real presence to concern the defense down the field.

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Originally posted by irief:

Surprised at the love for Bosa. Neither his performance or his availability compares to the elites like Garrett, TJ, Hendrickson, Crosby, etc, since he signed. 8/9 sacks per year is under performing such a massive contract.


So you only look at sacks and not the # of pressures or pressure rate? If a player forces the QB to get rid of the ball early and its incomplete that means nothing to you?
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