49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Why the hell are you guys arguing about TE in this thread?

This wouldn't be the Webzone if we didn't

Originally posted by krizay:
I for one only wanted Warren if we didn't bring back Juice. I think Warren and Kittle could have played together. No way to get the 2 of them and Juice on the field in a way that it makes sense. So I personally was out on Warren soon as Juice resigned. So at the time of the pick I do agree it wouldnt have made sense.

That said, taking an average DE at #11 wasn't exactly some great move either. He is good at what he does but what he does isn't worth the #11 pick.

Williams needs to improve as a pass rusher in order to become an elite player. There are plenty of excellent run defenders in this class, which brings into question Williams' draft stock if he can't improve upon his career 11.1% pass-rush win rate and 74.3 PFF pass rush grade

Williams' career pass rush pressure rate is barely above 10%. The average college football defensive end reaches 9 or 10% pressure rate every single year. Typical first-round prospects at the defensive end almost always post pressure rates above 12%, and usually, their peak pressure years come in above 16%

Williams turns 21 this summer and was arguably the best DE if not DLman on that Georgia team as a true freshman.

There is a lot of projection there but also a lot more consistent play throughout his whole SEC career. The scheme change with how he plays and what we run also projects into a much more productive NFL career as a pass rusher.

I'll trust his traits and flashes at the SEC over what Warren showed being fed like crazy.

Originally posted by genus49:
Williams turns 21 this summer and was arguably the best DE if not DLman on that Georgia team as a true freshman.

There is a lot of projection there but also a lot more consistent play throughout his whole SEC career. The scheme change with how he plays and what we run also projects into a much more productive NFL career as a pass rusher.

I'll trust his traits and flashes at the SEC over what Warren showed being fed like crazy.

Well as it turns out, this scheme is supposed to help Huff tremendously too. Which kind of means in the situations that you are projecting he'll be no better than Warren sitting behind Kittle.

I know i know, "But we can kick him inside on passing downs" yes like Warren and Kittle could have played together but I digress.

Is Williams kicking inside the scheme change you were talking about? Isn't that even more projecting?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Williams turns 21 this summer and was arguably the best DE if not DLman on that Georgia team as a true freshman.

There is a lot of projection there but also a lot more consistent play throughout his whole SEC career. The scheme change with how he plays and what we run also projects into a much more productive NFL career as a pass rusher.

I'll trust his traits and flashes at the SEC over what Warren showed being fed like crazy.

Well as it turns out, this scheme is supposed to help Huff tremendously too. Which kind of means in the situations that you are projecting he'll be no better than Warren sitting behind Kittle.

I know i know, "But we can kick him inside on passing downs" yes like Warren and Kittle could have played together but I digress.

Is Williams kicking inside the scheme change you were talking about? Isn't that even more projecting?

Do you really need an explanation of why depth at DL is a lot more impactful than depth at TE?

Huff wasn't added before the draft and as you said yourself Williams can still play on the field with Huff out there but no it's not the same as Kittle and Warren playing together. Only one guy gets the football on offense. When you're running 2 TE sets you're unlikely to have both guys running routes where they're the top reads on that play.

On defense every DLman can impact the play. The more top level pass rushers you have on the field means better results on pass downs.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Williams turns 21 this summer and was arguably the best DE if not DLman on that Georgia team as a true freshman.

There is a lot of projection there but also a lot more consistent play throughout his whole SEC career. The scheme change with how he plays and what we run also projects into a much more productive NFL career as a pass rusher.

I'll trust his traits and flashes at the SEC over what Warren showed being fed like crazy.

Well as it turns out, this scheme is supposed to help Huff tremendously too. Which kind of means in the situations that you are projecting he'll be no better than Warren sitting behind Kittle.

I know i know, "But we can kick him inside on passing downs" yes like Warren and Kittle could have played together but I digress.

Is Williams kicking inside the scheme change you were talking about? Isn't that even more projecting?

Do you really need an explanation of why depth at DL is a lot more impactful than depth at TE?

Huff wasn't added before the draft and as you said yourself Williams can still play on the field with Huff out there but no it's not the same as Kittle and Warren playing together. Only one guy gets the football on offense. When you're running 2 TE sets you're unlikely to have both guys running routes where they're the top reads on that play.

On defense every DLman can impact the play. The more top level pass rushers you have on the field means better results on pass downs.

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you ever just let a post go or do you need to make everything into an argument

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Williams turns 21 this summer and was arguably the best DE if not DLman on that Georgia team as a true freshman.

There is a lot of projection there but also a lot more consistent play throughout his whole SEC career. The scheme change with how he plays and what we run also projects into a much more productive NFL career as a pass rusher.

I'll trust his traits and flashes at the SEC over what Warren showed being fed like crazy.

Well as it turns out, this scheme is supposed to help Huff tremendously too. Which kind of means in the situations that you are projecting he'll be no better than Warren sitting behind Kittle.

I know i know, "But we can kick him inside on passing downs" yes like Warren and Kittle could have played together but I digress.

Is Williams kicking inside the scheme change you were talking about? Isn't that even more projecting?

Do you really need an explanation of why depth at DL is a lot more impactful than depth at TE?

Huff wasn't added before the draft and as you said yourself Williams can still play on the field with Huff out there but no it's not the same as Kittle and Warren playing together. Only one guy gets the football on offense. When you're running 2 TE sets you're unlikely to have both guys running routes where they're the top reads on that play.

On defense every DLman can impact the play. The more top level pass rushers you have on the field means better results on pass downs.

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you ever just let a post go or do you need to make everything into an argument

You literally quoted me and asked me a question. You doing ok?

Krizay not letting go his boy not being drafted again i see.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Williams turns 21 this summer and was arguably the best DE if not DLman on that Georgia team as a true freshman.

There is a lot of projection there but also a lot more consistent play throughout his whole SEC career. The scheme change with how he plays and what we run also projects into a much more productive NFL career as a pass rusher.

I'll trust his traits and flashes at the SEC over what Warren showed being fed like crazy.

Well as it turns out, this scheme is supposed to help Huff tremendously too. Which kind of means in the situations that you are projecting he'll be no better than Warren sitting behind Kittle.

I know i know, "But we can kick him inside on passing downs" yes like Warren and Kittle could have played together but I digress.

Is Williams kicking inside the scheme change you were talking about? Isn't that even more projecting?

Do you really need an explanation of why depth at DL is a lot more impactful than depth at TE?

Huff wasn't added before the draft and as you said yourself Williams can still play on the field with Huff out there but no it's not the same as Kittle and Warren playing together. Only one guy gets the football on offense. When you're running 2 TE sets you're unlikely to have both guys running routes where they're the top reads on that play.

On defense every DLman can impact the play. The more top level pass rushers you have on the field means better results on pass downs.

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you ever just let a post go or do you need to make everything into an argument

You literally quoted me and asked me a question. You doing ok?

Saying we took an average DL at 11 is weird cause he hasn't played a single down? We don't know what he is at the pro level.

what we do know is that he was widely considered a top 10 pick this year and before his injury riddled year this year, there was a lot of talk about him potentially going #1.

so we def wasn't average in college. The noisy stats (sacks etc) weren't necessarily great but he was really good and wreaked havoc.

Why don't we wait to see how the guy actually plays before determining how good he is?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Krizay not letting go his boy not being drafted again i see.

Like clockwork

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Krizay not letting go his boy not being drafted again i see.

Like clockwork

Since the 2000's

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Krizay not letting go his boy not being drafted again i see.

Like clockwork

Since the 2000's

Probably hasn't even watched the kid's highlight reel. I'm not saying he will be another Aldon Smith, but they were very similar players. I would be willing to bet this kid is not mediocre. Gonna have to search up Aldon's thread from when we drafted him and see how many folks were calling him mediocre.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Krizay not letting go his boy not being drafted again i see.

I'll be curious to see if Mykel is out there for these 2 practices this week. Hopefully whatever he was working through that kept him out for the last practice was nothing serious(didn't sound like it)

I'll be very curious what he's working on during the break. Would be great if he would sync up with Bosa or Trent. I would think working out with either of them would give him valuable info to grow his game.