A lot of casual fans (no one specific, just fans across all fan bases) don't realize how intertwined defense and special teams are, let's hope this becomes the start of something beautiful. Boyer has been a good coordinator in his own right, you have to be good and flexible to survive the jets for that long. lol
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- tankle104
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A lot of casual fans (no one specific, just fans across all fan bases) don't realize how intertwined defense and special teams are, let's hope this becomes the start of something beautiful. Boyer has been a good coordinator in his own right, you have to be good and flexible to survive the jets for that long. lol
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As for Boyer, 9 yrs as Jets ST coordinator, yeah, and he's had a top 5-10 ST unit, if we can get to 16th I'd be happy, our ST sucked so bad, I like Moody, but I'd bring in someone to challenge/push him, he didn't look right post ankle injury, like he never should have came back, way way way too soon, I'm hoping he can turn it around though.
Now we have to see who/if Kyle named Assistant HC since Staley ain't coming back most likely.
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Now are they gonna practice kick coverage more than 10 minutes per day?
Kyle really needs to change his mindset on how he sees ST. He just views it as "don't lose the game" but it can be a crazy important weapon too. He's NEVER done any sort of trick play or anything, not intentionally. Lombardi did a video about this and I agree with him. I don't agree with everything he says but I've felt like special teams has long been over due for an overhaul and approach.
You gotta let the boys play. Let them make a play. Give them some life.
I don't care to look it up but I remember something about the 49ers barely practicing special teams plays cause of the rule changes - right there I said we are going to lose games cause of STs, turns out we have a horrible unit. The worst In the league.
Special teams had a -64!!!! On EPA this year. Special teams essentially cost us 64 points, that's insane. Only one team since 2016 has had it worse but most are in the 10 to -10, that's how bad we were.
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Montana:
Can we get rid of Moody now or?
He's been a good kicker for us, just struggled coming back from injury this past season.
No he hasn't
Mayo!!!! Drop and give me 100 for that comment private!
s**t, I guess I'm wrong. I haven't watched the team much since his rookie season, so I guess I shouldn't be talking. So, he's sucked? I know he struggled this past season, coming off his injury. I thought he was solid for us before then.
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One of the premier kickers in the class, Miami's Andres Borregales met with a long list of teams during Shrine week, including the following:
— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) January 28, 2025
• Broncos
• Steelers
• Commanders
• Colts
• 49ers
• Saints
• Eagles
• Lions
• Seahawks
• Titans pic.twitter.com/6gqMULSewT
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Montana:
Can we get rid of Moody now or?
He's been a good kicker for us, just struggled coming back from injury this past season.
No he hasn't
Mayo!!!! Drop and give me 100 for that comment private!
s**t, I guess I'm wrong. I haven't watched the team much since his rookie season, so I guess I shouldn't be talking. So, he's sucked? I know he struggled this past season, coming off his injury. I thought he was solid for us before then.
You're right before he got injured, I think he was 12 out of 13 but we can't take a chance on him anymore, especially when we have such an easy path to get a bye week.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
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One of the premier kickers in the class, Miami's Andres Borregales met with a long list of teams during Shrine week, including the following:
— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) January 28, 2025
• Broncos
• Steelers
• Commanders
• Colts
• 49ers
• Saints
• Eagles
• Lions
• Seahawks
• Titans pic.twitter.com/6gqMULSewT
Id lose my s**t if we wasted another draft pick on a damn kicker. A 7th I could deal with
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Great hire by Kyle & John here, I doubt he was a "must" to get Saleh, I'm sure the whole Coen opting out, then back into the Jags job pissed him off, then the 49ers said they'd make him the highest paid DC, so Money speaks, plus a decent amount of the players he had back in 2020 are still here, Bosa, Warner, Dre(if re-signed), plus we have a lot of younger up & coming defensive players, Green, Brown, Mustapha, Winters, Okyuaninou, Beal, plus the familiarity with the team, and system, looking forward to seeing what Saleh does.
As for Boyer, 9 yrs as Jets ST coordinator, yeah, and he's had a top 5-10 ST unit, if we can get to 16th I'd be happy, our ST sucked so bad, I like Moody, but I'd bring in someone to challenge/push him, he didn't look right post ankle injury, like he never should have came back, way way way too soon, I'm hoping he can turn it around though.
Now we have to see who/if Kyle named Assistant HC since Staley ain't coming back most likely.
Honestly, I want better. Schneider had us middle of the pack his first year. Boyer is consistently a top 5/10 guy. That is the expectation. I want us in the upper echelon of special teams units. Hopefully Kyle has embraced this. His approach to special teams are like the coaches of old that thought passing was evil and when you throw, 2 of the outcomes are bad.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Especially this one.
His issues aren't coaching related
Drunk face.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Id lose my s**t if we wasted another draft pick on a damn kicker. A 7th I could deal with
Meh just sign the best kicker from the upcoming UFL.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Schneider was highly regarded when he was in Seattle. It still comes down to who the players are on special teams. They can't use the bottom of the roster and expect top end results.
Bottom of the roster + a conservative don't mess up approach.
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
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One of the premier kickers in the class, Miami's Andres Borregales met with a long list of teams during Shrine week, including the following:
— Ryan Fowler (@_RyanFowler_) January 28, 2025
• Broncos
• Steelers
• Commanders
• Colts
• 49ers
• Saints
• Eagles
• Lions
• Seahawks
• Titans pic.twitter.com/6gqMULSewT
Id lose my s**t if we wasted another draft pick on a damn kicker. A 7th I could deal with
I don't even want a 7th lol. Get a RB.