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LenCat
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Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by bud49:
Rewatching the game now and there could have been at least one or two more picks.
He could've also thrown zero picks if the ball is about 6 more inches outside on 1st, if he throws the ball 2 more yards further on the 2nd, or if there was a route to occupy horn on the 3rd.
Im just gonna leave this here
Exactly, yes Brock played great in his first years starting no doubt I think he was at least top three. But to turn a blind eye to what he has been the last 20 or so games is crazy. Something is wrong with his game now or the defenses have caught up with what he likes to do. Let's not have "Eyes Wide Shut" on this.
Today on the NFL network Sirius radio show NFL medical analyst Dr. David Chow said that Purdy has to be having problems with his right toe that it's keeping him from stepping into throws and getting the velocity he needs on the ball
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jcs
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Originally posted by LenCat:
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by bud49:
Rewatching the game now and there could have been at least one or two more picks.
He could've also thrown zero picks if the ball is about 6 more inches outside on 1st, if he throws the ball 2 more yards further on the 2nd, or if there was a route to occupy horn on the 3rd.
Im just gonna leave this here
Exactly, yes Brock played great in his first years starting no doubt I think he was at least top three. But to turn a blind eye to what he has been the last 20 or so games is crazy. Something is wrong with his game now or the defenses have caught up with what he likes to do. Let's not have "Eyes Wide Shut" on this.
Today on the NFL network Sirius radio show NFL medical analyst Dr. David Chow said that Purdy has to be having problems with his right toe that it's keeping him from stepping into throws and getting the velocity he needs on the ball
Except he was having turnover issues last year too
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Niner4Life21_
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by LenCat:
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by bud49:
Rewatching the game now and there could have been at least one or two more picks.
He could've also thrown zero picks if the ball is about 6 more inches outside on 1st, if he throws the ball 2 more yards further on the 2nd, or if there was a route to occupy horn on the 3rd.
Im just gonna leave this here
Exactly, yes Brock played great in his first years starting no doubt I think he was at least top three. But to turn a blind eye to what he has been the last 20 or so games is crazy. Something is wrong with his game now or the defenses have caught up with what he likes to do. Let's not have "Eyes Wide Shut" on this.
Today on the NFL network Sirius radio show NFL medical analyst Dr. David Chow said that Purdy has to be having problems with his right toe that it's keeping him from stepping into throws and getting the velocity he needs on the ball
Except he was having turnover issues last year too
Bingo. The toe isn't somehow affecting his brain and decision making. He's been bad at protecting the ball for a while now.
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LenCat
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Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by LenCat:
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by bud49:
Rewatching the game now and there could have been at least one or two more picks.
He could've also thrown zero picks if the ball is about 6 more inches outside on 1st, if he throws the ball 2 more yards further on the 2nd, or if there was a route to occupy horn on the 3rd.
Im just gonna leave this here
Exactly, yes Brock played great in his first years starting no doubt I think he was at least top three. But to turn a blind eye to what he has been the last 20 or so games is crazy. Something is wrong with his game now or the defenses have caught up with what he likes to do. Let's not have "Eyes Wide Shut" on this.
Today on the NFL network Sirius radio show NFL medical analyst Dr. David Chow said that Purdy has to be having problems with his right toe that it's keeping him from stepping into throws and getting the velocity he needs on the ball
Except he was having turnover issues last year too
Bingo. The toe isn't somehow affecting his brain and decision making. He's been bad at protecting the ball for a while now.
He threw 11 turnovers in 2023,12 in 2024 and seven so far this year. So he's been about the same every year. The problem last year was the timing and the " Badness" of the interceptions. At least two times last year he cost us games with mindnumbing Jimmy G level horrible throws. This wasn't addressed by Shanahan in the off-season and now you add the tow injury so I don't see it getting any better.
When and how will Shanahan be able to make the switch back to Mac is the biggest question.
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Brock is a meme now
also nice throw here.
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49ers81
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From the conclusion of an article that asked the musical question, which QB gives the 49ers a better chance of winning.
Purdy's ability to elevate the offense, especially in high-leverage moments, sets him apart—even if it sometimes results in turnovers. In key scenarios this season, Purdy showed not just arm talent, but decision-making savvy by recognizing defensive looks and switching to higher-value plays, such as his audible for a touchdown pass to George Kittle.?
Mac Jones, on the other hand, is in his first season with the 49ers system. While he has executed the game plan well when called upon, questions remain about his ability and confidence to adapt or stretch a defense vertically in crucial moments. As observed by both media and fans, this gap in mastery gives Purdy a strategic advantage in a playoff-bound team aiming to maximize every possession.?
Ultimately, while Jones's steady hand means fewer turnovers and safe play, the 49ers' offense is at its most dangerous with Purdy at the helm. His ceiling is simply higher—he opens up the full playbook, creates explosive opportunities, and brings a level of creativity that puts unique stress on defenses. That said, Jones is perhaps the NFL's best insurance policy: a low-ego, high-floor backup able to win games in the starter's absence and maintain the team's competitiveness, as demonstrated during Purdy's injury stretch.?
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My issue with Jonny, for a long time now, is when he throws someone else under the bus to defend his favs (Jimmy G, Brock, Kyle). I always feel it's unnecessary.
And he just couldn't help himself once again. He blames Jauan more so than Brock for that first INT.
I mean he tried to use Kurt Warner's take on it, but even Kurt said multiple times he's not blaming the WR.. he just mentioned what a WR can do to help a QB (by shielding the db) in those scenarios.
Ball was late, placement was bad.... simple as that. We won.... Brock's lucky enough to have another week to get folks to forget this game.
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Originally posted by LenCat:
He threw 11 turnovers in 2023,12 in 2024 and seven so far this year. So he's been about the same every year. The problem last year was the timing and the " Badness" of the interceptions. At least two times last year he cost us games with mindnumbing Jimmy G level horrible throws. This wasn't addressed by Shanahan in the off-season and now you add the tow injury so I don't see it getting any better.
When and how will Shanahan be able to make the switch back to Mac is the biggest question.
Cause Mac never turns over the ball "badnessly" lol
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NYniner85
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
This is what I've been saying
Lol looking at ints in a vacuum "the anticipation is gone!" even though there are many other players where the anticipation is there.
But, talking heads get paid to talk so it is what it is
Brock's elite trade is quick processing and throwing with anticipation…from 2024 to now that has been inconsistent. He doesn't have the arm talent to be throwing "late" or adding in extra hitches. It's a fact and shouldn't be some massively debated thing,
Clearly it's an issue because he's throwing MORE INTs and inaccurate balls the more he plays, he's not getting better there. He has to get back on track.
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NYniner85
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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's sad that our fanbase would give jonnydel s**t, of all people, just for the sin of not jumping on the Brock sucks now and forever train.
This fan base kinda sucks sometimes....Idk maybe it's this entitlement vibe since we won five SBs but that was forever ago. But it's like...kinda reminds me of a*****e Raiders fan base in some ways.
Some fans are just keeping s**t real. You can root for your guys and want them to succeed AND understand that so and so hasn't been playing well.
Jonny can say a play was a good call and he had the right read….that player still had to execute the play or none of it matters. Even Brock himself said he hasn't been doing that very well.
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NYniner85
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Originally posted by LenCat:
Today on the NFL network Sirius radio show NFL medical analyst Dr. David Chow said that Purdy has to be having problems with his right toe that it's keeping him from stepping into throws and getting the velocity he needs on the ball
His toe was fine last yr and he was still late on reads and not as consistent as he was in 2023. No one said a peep about his toe last week.
2023 he was running the offense and being a point guard. He would take shots when it was there, but wasn't forcing it all the time. It wasn't hero ball. This isn't a new thing, this was how he played at Iowa state.
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NYniner85
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Originally posted by DRnSFw:
its clear while watching the games too, being at levis yesterday, seeing the entire field as the play unfolds he is not throwing with anticipation like in 2023
Yup I was saying this last yr, the anticipation isn't there (or at least as consistent as it was in 2023).
when people bring up Montana, Brees or manning in regards to great QBs with meh arms they ALL had elite processing and anticipation as a QB. They did it consistently.
its kinda the opposite of Kap, who had elite traits and could wait to see someone open and throw a rope…he didn't improve because he couldn't play with that processing and anticipation.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
its clear while watching the games too, being at levis yesterday, seeing the entire field as the play unfolds he is not throwing with anticipation like in 2023
Yup I was saying this last yr, the anticipation isn't there (or at least as consistent as it was in 2023).
when people bring up Montana, Brees or manning in regards to great QBs with meh arms they ALL had elite processing and anticipation as a QB. They did it consistently.
its kinda the opposite of Kap, who had elite traits and could wait to see someone open and throw a rope…he didn't improve because he couldn't play with that processing and anticipation.
Here's an observation I've had. Why does it seem like qb's under Kyle start off great then in time regresses?
I am thinking Jimmy g's first 5 games, then he has the acl tear early in his first full season. imo he was never the same after that.
Purdy came in to that Miami game and was lights out. He was fantastic the rest of the season until he got his elbow blown out. Then he was great the next season. But since.... not the same.
While he's still aggressive he's also more timid. It's like he doesn't see everything as fast as he used to and/or is thinking to much.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
His toe was fine last yr and he was still late on reads and not as consistent as he was in 2023. No one said a peep about his toe last week.
2023 he was running the offense and being a point guard. He would take shots when it was there, but wasn't forcing it all the time. It wasn't hero ball. This isn't a new thing, this was how he played at Iowa state.
The problem with going back to last year is that you implicitly assume a trend - downwards in this case of Purdy's processing and decision making. This is possible of course, but you have too few points and too arbitrary a starting point of origin to claim it's probable. E. g. why just 24? Why not all games going back to 22? Or indeed, why not just this year to make him look even worse? I can also implicitly assume a trend - periodic, say - to extrapolate a resurgence. It's possible. Is it probable?
The facts on the other hand are indisputable. Purdy has been playing from mediocre to terrible this year, or rather with swings that have some extremely low lows - like last Monday. He also has been injured, with an especially nasty injury for QBs, as it's debilitating and lingering. He has also the fewest outlets for his passing he's ever had : 2 basically, plus flashes from the WRs. Are these more probable explanations for his poor play than lack of motivation after a big contract, or the NFL having "figured him out", or that he had always been bad but had been saved by the talent around him in 22-23 (the "Steven Ruiz thesis")? Not necessarily. They're all possible, as is a combination of all of the above. What is certain however at this point is that the team will be thrown into unnecessary turmoil by dumping its starting QB after a bad performance (but still a victory) shortly after a major (and it IS major) injury. If he continues suckling and costs us games then it's a discussion worth having. But not now, and certainly not because we assume that he's on a downward trend.