QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes now we saw what the ravens did and I'd expect other teams to try it as well so Kyle and brock have the lesson learned and experience gained.

Ultimately it'll depend on how healthy we remain and how the o line performs.

Try to tip passes into defenders hands? Hit Purdy's right arm so he throws it to a defender? That would be a blueprint for some high school team going up against SF.

There was no blueprint....the Ravens were extremely opertunistic and took advantage. Kudos to them....they have some serious talent on defense but this game was by no meaning an indicator of talent level between the two teams. In fact....you'd think for as 'great' as the Ravens are being praised for.....a +5 turnover ratio and they only won by 2 scores? Take away a couple of those flukey TO's and the game is a toss-up. If the TO differential was equal, SF rolls the Ravens into the dirt.

Accept it as it is and move on.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

@gregcosell on @brockpurdy13:

"...Purdy looked like Purdy...Niners and their offense had no problem moving the ball...they had 230 yards of offense in the first half...if the batted balls had fallen to the ground, we'd be having a different conversation..." pic.twitter.com/tJSSotpTbF

— Chris Browning (@BayAreaChris2) December 28, 2023

Exactly why I have zero panic about the team moving forward over the game, but I'm not surprised by our fanbase's reaction. We don't have the brightest fans.

100% when two balls get tipped right into the defenders hands (and off one of our own players shoulder pads), not to mention Brock's arm gets hit as he's throwing and the ball lands right into the linebackers hands inside our 10 yard line……to say those are his fault well IMO is very shortsighted. Then again, people have their narratives. Most any other day those balls would've just fallen incomplete and the ravens would've had what at least 13 to 17 less points? I mean what are we talking about here?

Originally posted by elguapo:
100% when two balls get tipped right into the defenders hands (and off one of our own players shoulder pads), not to mention Brock's arm gets hit as he's throwing and the ball lands right into the linebackers hands inside our 10 yard line……to say those are his fault well IMO is very shortsighted. Then again, people have their narratives. Most any other day those balls would've just fallen incomplete and the ravens would've had what at least 13 to 17 less points? I mean what are we talking about here?

The 3rd pick was outrageously unlikely. It was like some Madden s**t against the AI where the CPU is magically in the right spot.

Now, Brock still played rough BEYOND the picks. He was inaccurate more often than I'm used to. Balls behind guys, balls in the dirt, etc.

When people talk about physical limitations, these are the games it shows. Lamar wasn't very accurate most of the game but guess what? His elite/supreme physical ability bailed him out. Isn't always that way but it was Monday.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by elguapo:
100% when two balls get tipped right into the defenders hands (and off one of our own players shoulder pads), not to mention Brock's arm gets hit as he's throwing and the ball lands right into the linebackers hands inside our 10 yard line……to say those are his fault well IMO is very shortsighted. Then again, people have their narratives. Most any other day those balls would've just fallen incomplete and the ravens would've had what at least 13 to 17 less points? I mean what are we talking about here?

The 3rd pick was outrageously unlikely. It was like some Madden s**t against the AI where the CPU is magically in the right spot.

Now, Brock still played rough BEYOND the picks. He was inaccurate more often than I'm used to. Balls behind guys, balls in the dirt, etc.

When people talk about physical limitations, these are the games it shows. Lamar wasn't very accurate most of the game but guess what? His elite/supreme physical ability bailed him out. Isn't always that way but it was Monday.

Not sure it's Brock's physical limitations that prevented a comeback. We just haven't seen him demonstrate the ability to overcome a rough patch in a game. Montana threw a lot of picks in his first few years, but he always found a way to win.

Originally posted by father49er:
Not sure it's Brock's physical limitations that prevented a comeback. We just haven't seen him demonstrate the ability to overcome a rough patch in a game. Montana threw a lot of picks in his first few years, but he always found a way to win.

I have no doubt it's possible but what I mean is when Brock has an off day at the things he excels at (timing, anticipation, accuracy, reading defenses) he doesn't have the physical abilities to fall back on and manufacture yards (either by buying time with his legs to then find easy/open guys or getting yards on the ground, both things Lamar did on Monday)

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by elguapo:
100% when two balls get tipped right into the defenders hands (and off one of our own players shoulder pads), not to mention Brock's arm gets hit as he's throwing and the ball lands right into the linebackers hands inside our 10 yard line……to say those are his fault well IMO is very shortsighted. Then again, people have their narratives. Most any other day those balls would've just fallen incomplete and the ravens would've had what at least 13 to 17 less points? I mean what are we talking about here?

The 3rd pick was outrageously unlikely. It was like some Madden s**t against the AI where the CPU is magically in the right spot.

Now, Brock still played rough BEYOND the picks. He was inaccurate more often than I'm used to. Balls behind guys, balls in the dirt, etc.

When people talk about physical limitations, these are the games it shows. Lamar wasn't very accurate most of the game but guess what? His elite/supreme physical ability bailed him out. Isn't always that way but it was Monday.

Not sure it's Brock's physical limitations that prevented a comeback. We just haven't seen him demonstrate the ability to overcome a rough patch in a game. Montana threw a lot of picks in his first few years, but he always found a way to win.

Still talking about physical limitations.

Which Purdy's shoulder suffered a stinger, the surgery one or the non surgery one?

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Which Purdy's shoulder suffered a stinger, the surgery one or the non surgery one?

non

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49erF90:
Which Purdy's shoulder suffered a stinger, the surgery one or the non surgery one?

non

Thanks, brother.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes now we saw what the ravens did and I'd expect other teams to try it as well so Kyle and brock have the lesson learned and experience gained.

Ultimately it'll depend on how healthy we remain and how the o line performs.

Try to tip passes into defenders hands? Hit Purdy's right arm so he throws it to a defender? That would be a blueprint for some high school team going up against SF.

There was no blueprint....the Ravens were extremely opertunistic and took advantage. Kudos to them....they have some serious talent on defense but this game was by no meaning an indicator of talent level between the two teams. In fact....you'd think for as 'great' as the Ravens are being praised for.....a +5 turnover ratio and they only won by 2 scores? Take away a couple of those flukey TO's and the game is a toss-up. If the TO differential was equal, SF rolls the Ravens into the dirt.

Accept it as it is and move on.

I wish it were that simple but their coverages forced Purdy to hold the ball longer than usual on many plays. Then other times the pass rush got to him before he could really even let the routes develop. Cluster F.

obviously the ravens have the talent on defense to do what they did and we don't expect the commanders to have the same success, but I can certainly see the next two games being for more of those zone coverages the ravens employed.

That being said better now than the playoffs. Good experience for Brock.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I wish it were that simple but their coverages forced Purdy to hold the ball longer than usual on many plays. Then other times the pass rush got to him before he could really even let the routes develop. Cluster F.

obviously the ravens have the talent on defense to do what they did and we don't expect the commanders to have the same success, but I can certainly see the next two games being for more of those zone coverages the ravens employed.

That being said better now than the playoffs. Good experience for Brock.

Everything I've seen from Purdy is that he is a quick study, so I'm pretty sure he can keep any new coverage in his memory bank. Teams can try and copy what the Ravens did, but not everybody is built like the Ravens. Their linebackers are very similar to ours and they have a really good S in Hamilton. Their pass rush is strong as well.

The only thing about that loss that is concerning are injuries.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

It wasn't arrogance. Kyle doesn't run plays just to run them. He runs them based on the looks the D gives him.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

It wasn't arrogance. Kyle doesn't run plays just to run them. He runs them based on the looks the D gives him.

Well he must have run the wrong plays against those looks than because they resulted in only 10 points in the first half and only 7 points in the 2nd half. Now if what you are saying is that Kyle is afraid to run the ball with a single high look than he simply played right into the hands of the ravens defense.