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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.

I agree with the Jimmy G approach, short to medium routes with constant rushing. It worked in 2019 when the 49ers loss to the Ravens 17-20.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.

I agree with the Jimmy G approach, short to medium routes with constant rushing. It worked in 2019 when the 49ers loss to the Ravens 17-20.

The difference would be that once you get the defense selling out to stop the run, you can actually hit the defense over the top with Brock.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.

I agree with the Jimmy G approach, short to medium routes with constant rushing. It worked in 2019 when the 49ers loss to the Ravens 17-20.

The difference would be that once you get the defense selling out to stop the run, you can actually hit the defense over the top with Brock.



Conservative approach to an aggressive defense.

Rematch will be different oh yes it will!!!!!
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.

That's a good way of putting it. Perhaps we'd have 3 healthier OL too vs. asking them to play to their weakness too. Pound them and make them move/run. That's their strength.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.

That's a good way of putting it. Perhaps we'd have 3 healthier OL too vs. asking them to play to their weakness too. Pound them and make them move/run. That's their strength.

Perhaps but Brock has faced the same amount of pressure against top pass rushes this season and the results weren't this bad. In fact, the 49ers are 5-2 against the top 15 pass rushes this season. Brock's two worst games this season came against the league's #1 and #2 pass defenses.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Tell me about it. If anything, Brock will learn to eat it a few more times, play a little less hero ball, throw a few less contested passes, not throw into jumping defenders, etc. The kid is smart. He learns by doing. And if anything, this could end up being a blessing in disguise. Find that balance. The check downs were there.

my one critique of brock, and this has been for awhile now, is making a bad play worse, but that's definitely correctable

Yup and he mentioned it after this game, and after the Jags game. Seems extremely coachable.

No doubt. He was throwing up contested passes all night. He probably could have had 3 more INT's too if we're being honest. That's a credit to a sticky defense, a receiving group not getting separation at the top of their routes and Brock forcing the action and being too risky. Sometimes you just gotta take the easy and safe underneath stuff until a defense is softened up.

Scheme wise, Kyle was getting his usual guys wide open in the MOF so we got some yardage for sure.

Brock will learn. I'm not worried at all about that.

Or we can run the ball with the best RB in the league to soften them up. Even if you take away that 39 yard run, CMC was still averaging 4.9 yards per carry. Coming out with a pass heavy game plan against the #1 pass defense when they are most vulnerable against the run and we have the best RB in the league is just pure arrogance.

Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

Its games like that where I wish we came out with more of a Jimmy G or Jim Harbaugh type of game plan. Pound the ball, impose your will and pass only when the situation calls for it.

I agree with the Jimmy G approach, short to medium routes with constant rushing. It worked in 2019 when the 49ers loss to the Ravens 17-20.

The difference would be that once you get the defense selling out to stop the run, you can actually hit the defense over the top with Brock.



Conservative approach to an aggressive defense.

Rematch will be different oh yes it will!!!!!

Love the discussion! Agree 💯 % will all!
Brock just had a bad game.

The game plan was fine.

Brock just needs to play better.
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 29, 2023 at 10:10 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock just had a bad game.

The game plan was fine.

Brock just needs to play better.

I wouldn't say the game plan was fine.

Obviously I'm very happy with Kyle and Purdy, it's nice to finally see our offense be able to perform well all around, but this was the type of game where we should've ran more for sure, especially early on.
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock just had a bad game.

The game plan was fine.

Brock just needs to play better.

Sorry but no. Going into the game with a pass heavy game plan against a defense that gives up an average of 5.0 yards per attempt (best in the league), leads the league in sacks and are one of the best in taking the ball away through the air is not a good game plan. Ravens are 22nd in the league in stopping the run and CMC gashed them multiple times in the game. The only excuse I can up with for not running the ball more is because we want to preserve CMC for the playoffs and that game wasn't a must win.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock just had a bad game.

The game plan was fine.

Brock just needs to play better.

Sorry but no. Going into the game with a pass heavy game plan against a defense that gives up an average of 5.0 yards per attempt (best in the league), leads the league in sacks and are one of the best in taking the ball away through the air is not a good game plan. Ravens are 22nd in the league in stopping the run and CMC gashed them multiple times in the game. The only excuse I can up with for not running the ball more is because we want to preserve CMC for the playoffs and that game wasn't a must win.

That's correct and random is wrong. The overly simplistic HOT TAKE. It's the QB. It's the QB. He's sounding like Nick WRONG. It's more complex. Our gameplan was absolutely horrible. The offensive line was a joke on pass blocking. Including injuries too and even before the injuries.
Brock throwing a bunch of INTs is mainly on Brock.

We moved the ball. The scheme was fine.

You cant turn the ball over.

I think we just want to believe that we can't be beaten at full strength... But as we saw... Its just not true. We can be. The other team is allowed to gameplan as well.
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 29, 2023 at 10:40 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Brock throwing a bunch of INTs is mainly on Brock.

We moved the ball. The scheme was fine.

You cant turn the ball over.

I think we just want to believe that we can't be beaten at full strength... But as we saw... Its just not true. We can be. The other team is allowed to gameplan as well.

First INT? For sure. 2 tipped passes and his arm being hit on the other? Not so much.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Especially when it proved to be working. This just 'felt like a game plan trying to highlight his QB vs. the RB which was working. Pete Carroll would be proud.

It's almost like the people complaining about lack of pass attempts and the need to throw more with Brock weren't correct.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Dec 29, 2023 at 10:48 AM ]
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