QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Not that I really give a f**k about MVP, for the last 15-20 years it has gone to the best qb on one of the best teams. Lamar has a lot of catching up to do to match what the voters seem to value most, stats on a good team.

Lamar will get it if they beat us, he plays well, and they get the 1 seed.

With you on not really caring either way. Only thing I'd say is of course it's going to a QB. It should.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
OK it's official Michael Robinson is a purified douche bag. Called Lamar Jackson the MVP and Tarek Hill second. He's a pure Seacock lover and we should have cut the loser. Sucked as a player and even worse as a commentator.

He hates the Niners and I hate him.

Because Lamar carries the team on offense. There are not the weapons as on 9ers yet they have the same record. MVP is most valuable to a team. Not most valuable to a fan. I hope CMC (first) or Brock get the nod but we must first understand what MVP means. It is not always stats. Lamar, has had to keep those first downs coming with his legs many many times.

I love Brock but I cannot believe how many comments Montana, Young, Brees, God. Let's give him a few years to form a true picture.

This is the best offensive roster we have had since I was a kid. It's insane. When the piper comes calling due to age or cap issues let's see how we are looking.

I bet fine in the future but we are way too early in with Brock with a unique generational SQUAD. I bet Trent last year this year. What happens when he needs replacement. What happens if no Brandon? I fear he lands in KC if we can't pay him. They are desperate need.

Brock has been outstanding with an outstanding generational offense. The real test will come. How about just enjoying the ride over Brock is this. Brock is that. He said this. He said that. It's insane.

Brock carries the niners as we have seen this year. Most of the people comparing him to Montana are talking about his elite ability to see the whole field. As well Brady, Roger's and Payton also had that ability. Let's see how Brock grows but he's on that trajectory.

Other posters have commented as well Jimmy/Trey had these weapons and did not produce like Brock. I'll give you the fact that this is the best team we have had in decades but will need Brock to out shoot Lamar and then the MVP voting should be done.

People keep bringing up that he has a stacked team but the reason they are able to have a stacked team is because of his contract. So wouldn't that make him the most valuable player in the league by a mile? A top 5 QB who's contract doesn't even count against the salary cap. They say put Mahomes or Allen on this team with all those weapons and they would never lose. Well if Allen or Mahomes were on this team they wouldn't have all those weapons.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
People keep bringing up that he has a stacked team but the reason they are able to have a stacked team is because of his contract. So wouldn't that make him the most valuable player in the league by a mile? A top 5 QB who's contract doesn't even count against the salary cap. They say put Mahomes or Allen on this team with all those weapons and they would never lose. Well if Allen or Mahomes were on this team they wouldn't have all those weapons.

Nobody defines MVP in that context.

There's no argument he's the most valuable player, maybe ever, based on a price per play basis, lol.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
People keep bringing up that he has a stacked team but the reason they are able to have a stacked team is because of his contract. So wouldn't that make him the most valuable player in the league by a mile? A top 5 QB who's contract doesn't even count against the salary cap. They say put Mahomes or Allen on this team with all those weapons and they would never lose. Well if Allen or Mahomes were on this team they wouldn't have all those weapons.

It's true, but if the MVP voters start seriously taking contract value into consideration, it'll basically become the best QB on a rookie deal award.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's true, but if the MVP voters start seriously taking contract value into consideration, it'll basically become the best QB on a rookie deal award.

Yeah but the QB still has to perform at an elite level compared to everyone else in the league which is what Purdy has done. Purdy is putting up better stats than anybody else in the league. It's just there are people trying to diminish them by saying it's because of the talent around him. Well if you are going to try and use that as a reason why somebody else should win that award you also have to take into account the reason why Purdy has a stacked team.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Alfienator:
I'm wondering if there will be a lot more QBs drafted in the later rounds. Teams wanting to hit the Brock Purdy lottery.

Definitely. NFL teams love a fad. You'll see a lot more QBs that would otherwise have gone undrafted going in the 6th and 7th rounds.

not just a fad, it's tactical in the sense, you get 4 years team control contract
what's the rules on udfa, I don't think there's as much team control

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Found this on twitter.

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Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
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Best summary yet .

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Lamar Jackson has 17 TD's. Not an MVP year. Now tell me how many Brock_STAR has? I'll wait.

You know who else the piper is going to come for? Lamar Jackson. When he gets some age and loses a step he won't be the same player. He also can get injured like RG3 who was never the same. His style of play won't last forever.

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Lamar Jackson has 17 TD's. Not an MVP year. Now tell me how many Brock_STAR has? I'll wait.

You know who else the piper is going to come for? Lamar Jackson. When he gets some age and loses a step he won't be the same player. He also can get injured like RG3 who was never the same. His style of play won't last forever.

yea when athletes lose a step, they generally arent the "same" player. He can improve in other areas as he loses athleticism tho. You happen to think he will not. We will see.

I doubt it. He's not that great from the pocket and he played for years now. Purdy is better there as a 2nd year player.

Easy for you to say,...hard for you to ever bring evidence here to prove. Sounds alot more like you're using your usual crutch here. Otherwise,...you could bring some evidence to the table.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Not that I really give a f**k about MVP, for the last 15-20 years it has gone to the best qb on one of the best teams. Lamar has a lot of catching up to do to match what the voters seem to value most, stats on a good team.

Lamar will get it if they beat us, he plays well, and they get the 1 seed.

With you on not really caring either way. Only thing I'd say is of course it's going to a QB. It should.

His numbers are nothing near MVP numbers or Purdy. But the anti Purdy agenda is big. Should Purdy win IMO they are running out of excuses. Hurts, Dak and Lamar are all gone. I don't think CMC or a RB wins. I don't think Tyreek or a WR wins. It's Purdy should he win and more so if we win by some decent margin.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
His numbers are nothing near MVP numbers or Purdy. But the anti Purdy agenda is big. Should Purdy win IMO they are running out of excuses. Hurts, Dak and Lamar are all gone. I don't think CMC or a RB wins. I don't think Tyreek or a WR wins. It's Purdy should he win and more so if we win by some decent margin.

Purdy's a lock if we win next week, he plays well, and we get the 1 seed. You have to bet 200 to win 100 on him. Betting 100 on Lamar right now will pay you 4-600 dollars if he wins depending on where you bet.

Maybe some room for CMC to sneak in a victory if he just crushes the stat sheet over the final games, but probably not. He's 10-1 or higher.

Outside of that point, Lamar has been good this year. He's a better passer than you think he is, and is a dynamic runner. Numbers have a lot to do with team too. That offense isn't loaded.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
Brock's two greatest strengths are his ability to see the whole field and find the open guy, second is his anticipation. Without these skill players, there may not always be an open guy. But I think Purdy is elite in that respect. He may not be able to make all the insane sideline throws like Aaron Rodgers or have the arm strength to make the throws in the tightest spaces, but he is an elite distributor of the ball. Clearly he wouldn't be able to do what Josh Allen does in Buffalo, but I'm also not sure Allen would be able to see the whole field like Purdy does in San Francisco.

This has been mentioned before, but very few QBs coming out of college had the starting experience that Purdy had. Shanahan mentioned recently that some QBs have traits that are developed and unlocked through extensive experience, that's obviously Purdy. Purdy started 46 games in college, I wonder how close that is to a record. He also played in probably the third best conference in the country.

This team is almost too good and we haven't see Purdy very much in difficult circumstances in the 4th quarter. The three game losing streak comes to mind. He played well enough, particularly on the last drive, to put the team in position to win in Cleveland. He played poorly vs Minnesota. He had a lot of yards vs Cincinnati, but turned the ball over.

We can hope, but probably not get, the kind of discount that Tom Brady would give the Patriots so he could have a better team around him, but who knows.

Good post

Brock also started 3 years in highschool and they passed a lot, he essentially Carried the team to a few state championship games. Won Arizona Gatorade player of the year, which is crazy coming from the school he went to.
so that experience he went through in high school and college really prepared him well for the pros, because his teams were never the most talented and had to deal with a lot of adversity - a lot of talented guys come into the league without having much adversity in their highschool/college careers.

Purdy is all about the team first and doing what he can to put them in position to win. I don't think he will take some insane discount, but I hope he doesn't take as much as he can. For example, instead of making $72M a year, he goes with $58-$60M. That difference is massive for building a roster.

im a believer that the best way to develop a young QBs is that you surround a young qb with a lot of talent to help with the load. Get them good experience early on, so theyre more prepared to handle a rough outing later on. Mahommes and Allen both had really good rosters (for the most part) in their early years and I think they're better equipped to handle the state of where their roster is at now because of that experience. Teaches them how to win.

im very bullish on Brock's future. Regardless of what happens with his contract, it'll be very manageable for the next 5 years cause of how it can be structured.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
OK it's official Michael Robinson is a purified douche bag. Called Lamar Jackson the MVP and Tarek Hill second. He's a pure Seacock lover and we should have cut the loser. Sucked as a player and even worse as a commentator.

He hates the Niners and I hate him.

Because Lamar carries the team on offense. There are not the weapons as on 9ers yet they have the same record. MVP is most valuable to a team. Not most valuable to a fan. I hope CMC (first) or Brock get the nod but we must first understand what MVP means. It is not always stats. Lamar, has had to keep those first downs coming with his legs many many times.

I love Brock but I cannot believe how many comments Montana, Young, Brees, God. Let's give him a few years to form a true picture.

This is the best offensive roster we have had since I was a kid. It's insane. When the piper comes calling due to age or cap issues let's see how we are looking.

I bet fine in the future but we are way too early in with Brock with a unique generational SQUAD. I bet Trent last year this year. What happens when he needs replacement. What happens if no Brandon? I fear he lands in KC if we can't pay him. They are desperate need.

Brock has been outstanding with an outstanding generational offense. The real test will come. How about just enjoying the ride over Brock is this. Brock is that. He said this. He said that. It's insane.

But it has been always about stats..
Lamar got it when he had the best stats, as did Cam, and I can go on. Why should this year be any different?

Also, people need to stop with the "generational offense, b******t", when did Kurt Warner win it? When he had talent around him. Same with Peyton manning & again, I can go on.
How about Mahomes right now? Why isn't he winning MVP if he's a generational talent, he should be throwing touchdowns all day long.
Hmmm well let me guess, he needs some players around him..

Ridiculous how people downplay how Purdy is playing right now.

I guarantee you if Trey Lance was doing what Purdy is doing right now Trey Lance would be the unanimous MVP… tell me I'm wrong.