QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the key is to not always look for a player that can be an all star in any system, but an all star in your teams system. I think we do a great job drafting guys In the mid to late rounds that really fit what we desire and ask of them.

then we coach em up and get them playing at a high level. Once you have a handful of guys playing at a high level in your system, it helps elevate the guys around them and make them more effective in your system.

but yes, it's extremely hard to find anyone at any position that will be even a pro bowler, let alone an all pro.

what we've done is outstanding and insanely impressive. Not all our guys would be top tier players in every system, but they fit our system perfectly. They also are high character guys who love football and are selfless - very rare. Just look at a guy like AJ Brown or DK, they're pissed if they aren't getting the ball.

We got insanely lucky on Brock. To try and repeat the strategy at that position would be foolish (for any team).

Want to build up the team before you draft a young QB? No problem.

But those teams are dead in the water if they think they can faithfully rely on a lower round QB to be a SB quality QB.

Agree, guys like Brock are generational talents. You can have every round 1, pick 1 pick for 10 years straight, and there is no guarantee you can get a Brock Purdy level talent after 10 years of those picks. These guys are rare as hell.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Chance:
Just draft a guy like Purdy in the later rounds. Simple.

Every team should find their franchise QB in the 7th round and if they can't then they just aren't trying hard enough. 🤷

That's the problem with the ol' "Money Ball" technique: it's only reliable in Madden. There's only been one Brady, and so far there's just one Purdy. You could get a good QB in the third or fourth round at regular intervals, but probably only every few years. But sixth, seventh round? Good luck.

Because as much as our weapons are helping Purdy, Purdy has unlocked them. Those kinds of guys do not grow on 7th round trees.

Watching Fred's podcast and Jerry Rice compares Brock to Montana.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Watching Fred's podcast and Jerry Rice compares Brock to Montana.

I didn't hear the comments and I'm not saying he's Joe, but is there a better great player comp for Brock than Joe?

I personally think it's better than Brees.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Watching Fred's podcast and Jerry Rice compares Brock to Montana.

I didn't hear the comments and I'm not saying he's Joe, but is there a better great player comp for Brock than Joe?

I personally think it's better than Brees.

Well as far as strengths and style-of-play is concerned, you'd be correct.

It's a vicous cycle of getting coaches and players. You must have stability at the top down. Look at CMC, his talent didn't diminished, Carolina had some talents, they didn't have a coach capable of putting it together. Miami the same, they have had talent for years. Couldn't get a decent coach worth his salt. Some overrated mess went through the HC position. McDaniels came in knew exactly what he has and most importantly what he needed. Quick turnaround. Demeco got Stroud. He may not be as successful without Stroud, but I think Demeco would still win some games you don't expect even without Stroud. The ability of a HC knowing what he want, what he need, and what makes a winning locker room with good characters are so important. It also affect the teams ability to develop talent and keeping them on the team.

You want the 49ers model, get a Shanahan lol

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
CatchMaster, I think I know what you are asking. Pay a QB huge money, or field an all star roster while finding a functional 'plug and play' QB that doesn't have to be paid huge bucks, allowing for the all star roster to stay intact. All 32 teams are trying to find elite talent at all positions. So in that sense they are all trying to copy the 49ers, and each other. Even the teams that paid their QB big money are trying to find elite talent at all positions - it's a never ending quest.

I could argue that it's easier to find a star QB because a team only has to hit one position. Think about how hard it is to get All Pro talent at all the positions that the 49ers have, and to have them all similar in age so they can play together. So to answer your question, all teams are following the same formula, acquire elite talent at all possible positions. The only question they have to ask themselves is whether the QB they have is deserving of a huge deal. Because if they get the answer wrong, then they are stuck with a high priced QB that isn't worth the cap hit, and it handcuffs their ability to extend players.

I think the key is to not always look for a player that can be an all star in any system, but an all star in your teams system. I think we do a great job drafting guys In the mid to late rounds that really fit what we desire and ask of them.

then we coach em up and get them playing at a high level. Once you have a handful of guys playing at a high level in your system, it helps elevate the guys around them and make them more effective in your system.

but yes, it's extremely hard to find anyone at any position that will be even a pro bowler, let alone an all pro.

what we've done is outstanding and insanely impressive. Not all our guys would be top tier players in every system, but they fit our system perfectly. They also are high character guys who love football and are selfless - very rare. Just look at a guy like AJ Brown or DK, they're pissed if they aren't getting the ball.

Yeah, drafting for system fit is important and it helps that Kyle has such a loud voice in the Draft Room. There came a point when Kyle decided to go the route of fielding an all star team while finding a plug and play QB - that was the Lance experiment. The roster was loaded and Jimmy was making big money that may not have been justified (let's save that argument for another time). Kyle wanted a QB on a rookie deal so the all star roster could be kept intact. So they drafted a rookie QB.

Going back to CM80's question. The question was whether teams will try to copy the 49ers and construct an all star roster with a cheap QB. I think all teams are already trying to do this. I don't think a team makes a conscious decision to go get an all star roster that a bargain QB can win with. Teams are continuously trying to find the best talent they can get, all the time, at all positions.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Watching Fred's podcast and Jerry Rice compares Brock to Montana.

I didn't hear the comments and I'm not saying he's Joe, but is there a better great player comp for Brock than Joe?

I personally think it's better than Brees.

Brock_STAR Montana Brees Purdy.

He's a little of all of those.

But more Brock Montana.

OK it's official Michael Robinson is a purified douche bag. Called Lamar Jackson the MVP and Tarek Hill second. He's a pure Seacock lover and we should have cut the loser. Sucked as a player and even worse as a commentator. Brock or Christian case closed.

He hates the Niners and I hate him.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

49ers Brock Purdy proves consistently that he can make plays outside of structure

Cardinals show zero blitz and then drop 9 in coverage!

Brock's pocket presence and patience allows for a on-the-fly adjustment by Kittle and Brock puts it only where Kittle can snag it pic.twitter.com/FRSYJfmMD7

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) December 19, 2023

Kinda like that throw against Dallas in the playoff last year. Same one hander by Kittle

He put it where only Kittle could get it. Perfect throw.

Even with a free defender closing in his face, he calmly make an accurate touch pass to Kittle that he could pulled in with one hand. This cat just knows how to play qb at a high level.

I'm wondering if there will be a lot more QBs drafted in the later rounds. Teams wanting to hit the Brock Purdy lottery.

Originally posted by bassmanr:
OK it's official Michael Robinson is a purified douche bag. Called Lamar Jackson the MVP and Tarek Hill second. He's a pure Seacock lover and we should have cut the loser. Sucked as a player and even worse as a commentator.

He hates the Niners and I hate him.

Because Lamar carries the team on offense. There are not the weapons as on 9ers yet they have the same record. MVP is most valuable to a team. Not most valuable to a fan. I hope CMC (first) or Brock get the nod but we must first understand what MVP means. It is not always stats. Lamar, has had to keep those first downs coming with his legs many many times.

I love Brock but I cannot believe how many comments Montana, Young, Brees, God. Let's give him a few years to form a true picture.

This is the best offensive roster we have had since I was a kid. It's insane. When the piper comes calling due to age or cap issues let's see how we are looking.

I bet fine in the future but we are way too early in with Brock with a unique generational SQUAD. I bet Trent last year this year. What happens when he needs replacement. What happens if no Brandon? I fear he lands in KC if we can't pay him. They are desperate need.

Brock has been outstanding with an outstanding generational offense. The real test will come. How about just enjoying the ride over Brock is this. Brock is that. He said this. He said that. It's insane.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wasn't asking so much about whether the Niners will sign him They prbably will but it depends a lot on how much he wants and how many players they need to replace.

I'm wondering more about how many teams will try and copy the Niners if they win this year and maybe again next year. it's a copy cat league and high priced QBs may be pricing themselves out of jobs. I bring up my idea of exempting QBs from the salary cap.

In a sense teams already have. When DC turned it over to Howell, they said maybe he can be our Brock Purdy. That's an actual quote. You more or less break the league, when you acquire a QB1 on a shoestring. Even Lance's rook deal can't hold a candle to what we are paying Brock, in terms of team friendly contract. I think we will capitalize on a historic window here with a run of SBs.

I would not be in favor of uncapped QB contracts. I shudder to think what Mahomes or someone could command on a truly open market, and that opens the door more so for rich owners to outspend at that all important position. Competitive balance says leave it alone. If you want to roster Mahomes on the 2nd contract, he should take up a fat slice of your cap. That's only fair. And right now BP isn't even getting the donate it to charity slice of the pie. So that's the gamebreaking part we enjoy.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
OK it's official Michael Robinson is a purified douche bag. Called Lamar Jackson the MVP and Tarek Hill second. He's a pure Seacock lover and we should have cut the loser. Sucked as a player and even worse as a commentator.

He hates the Niners and I hate him.

Because Lamar carries the team on offense. There are not the weapons as on 9ers yet they have the same record. MVP is most valuable to a team. Not most valuable to a fan. I hope CMC (first) or Brock get the nod but we must first understand what MVP means. It is not always stats. Lamar, has had to keep those first downs coming with his legs many many times.

I love Brock but I cannot believe how many comments Montana, Young, Brees, God. Let's give him a few years to form a true picture.

This is the best offensive roster we have had since I was a kid. It's insane. When the piper comes calling due to age or cap issues let's see how we are looking.

No lies spoken here

Originally posted by Alfienator:
I'm wondering if there will be a lot more QBs drafted in the later rounds. Teams wanting to hit the Brock Purdy lottery.

Definitely. NFL teams love a fad. You'll see a lot more QBs that would otherwise have gone undrafted going in the 6th and 7th rounds.