QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I mean Brock can't keep tossing those WTF throws and keep expecting them to not getting picked off as well. He's for sure not the main issue though. OL can't block. Defense forgot how to do their jobs. We're depending on a rookie kicker to help a SB roster go all the way (s**t is gonna bite us in the ass).

hopefully everyone can get their heads out of their asses and play like a team that's ready to go all the way.

Oh, yeah, He's had a ton of them. Not saying he hasn't had his missteps, but your choice of phrasing makes it sound like it's an every game occurrence. Plus, the guys who break down tape of these things, like Kurt Warner, JT O'Sullivan and Chase Daniels, all former NFL QB's by the way, including one HOFer, all seem to think he has been playing pretty well for the most part. What were your credentials again?

I don't think he's just talking about the INTs. Brock has had a few throws like those across the field tosses that are always dangerous. He's had some others that were close to being picked off. The point is he needs to be the precise thrower that we saw last season and early this year. He doesn't have the power arm that allows him to get away with passes that shouldn't be thrown.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I mean Brock can't keep tossing those WTF throws and keep expecting them to not getting picked off as well. He's for sure not the main issue though. OL can't block. Defense forgot how to do their jobs. We're depending on a rookie kicker to help a SB roster go all the way (s**t is gonna bite us in the ass).

hopefully everyone can get their heads out of their asses and play like a team that's ready to go all the way.

Oh, yeah, He's had a ton of them. Not saying he hasn't had his missteps, but your choice of phrasing makes it sound like it's an every game occurrence. Plus, the guys who break down tape of these things, like Kurt Warner, JT O'Sullivan and Chase Daniels, all former NFL QB's by the way, including one HOFer, all seem to think he has been playing pretty well for the most part. What were your credentials again?

Lmao.

1. NY is right. He did have turnover worthy plays last season. But he also said he's making a lot more positive plays than negative. You're trying too hard to paint him a hater again, that's your shtick I get it.

2. Since none of us are former NFL players, we should all just delete our accounts. What do we know?

he's just a good D and run game away from getting back into the MVP convo as we get back to winning games

I went back and read the scouting reports on Purdy and for the most part they were pretty accurate. The biggest concerns were about his height, arm length, hand size and arm strength. We've seen all of those factors in the short time he's played. He's had a few fumbles (hand size) altough he's recovered most of them. He's had a lot of passes tipped at the line (height and arm length).

They also said he would fit best in the type of offense that the 49ers run verses one that constantly tries to throw deep. They said he moves well inthe pocket but isn't going to be a running threat. They liked his accuracy on short to intermediate passes but felt he might struggle with the really deep throws.

So far I think the scouts were pretty close to correct. If Brock was in some other offenses he might be struggling or maybe on the bench. With the Niners he's a good fit.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he's just a good D and run game away from getting back into the MVP convo as we get back to winning games

brock came to us a year too late

cant always have an elite defense to carry our QBs

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I went back and read the scouting reports on Purdy and for the most part they were pretty accurate. The biggest concerns were about his height, arm length, hand size and arm strength. We've seen all of those factors in the short time he's played. He's had a few fumbles (hand size) altough he's recovered most of them. He's had a lot of passes tipped at the line (height and arm length).

They also said he would fit best in the type of offense that the 49ers run verses one that constantly tries to throw deep. They said he moves well inthe pocket but isn't going to be a running threat. They liked his accuracy on short to intermediate passes but felt he might struggle with the really deep throws.

So far I think the scouts were pretty close to correct. If Brock was in some other offenses he might be struggling or maybe on the bench. With the Niners he's a good fit.

He's blown pick 262 out of the water so severely that he probably has ended the term Mr Irrelevant for life. The buck stops here on that term, it's game over. You can no longer say that pick is irrelevant.

Maybe you are talking about the traits aspect of it, but he should have been drafted a lot sooner. Cuz of the moxie, attitude, leadership, accuracy traits, and the ability to come in year 1 NFL ready, some guys aren't that year 3 after they've been traded to Dallas,

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I mean Brock can't keep tossing those WTF throws and keep expecting them to not getting picked off as well. He's for sure not the main issue though. OL can't block. Defense forgot how to do their jobs. We're depending on a rookie kicker to help a SB roster go all the way (s**t is gonna bite us in the ass).

hopefully everyone can get their heads out of their asses and play like a team that's ready to go all the way.

Oh, yeah, He's had a ton of them. Not saying he hasn't had his missteps, but your choice of phrasing makes it sound like it's an every game occurrence. Plus, the guys who break down tape of these things, like Kurt Warner, JT O'Sullivan and Chase Daniels, all former NFL QB's by the way, including one HOFer, all seem to think he has been playing pretty well for the most part. What were your credentials again?

Lmao.

1. NY is right. He did have turnover worthy plays last season. But he also said he's making a lot more positive plays than negative. You're trying too hard to paint him a hater again, that's your shtick I get it.

2. Since none of us are former NFL players, we should all just delete our accounts. What do we know?

Anyone who has ever asked if a poster played professionally or what their credentials are to have an opinion are immediately disregarded on my end. Ridiculous that some people think you cant have an opinion without pro experience.

Trey sucks. Jimmy sucks. BP is miles ahead of those has-beens and he is nowhere near his full potential.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by bud49:
I expect Brock to be locked in after the bye. I think he will be a lot safer with the football in crucial situations.

Brock doesn't worry me, the defense does

Scoring less points is costing us games

Ya think the defense just getting absolutely abused in the TOP has anything to do with the offense having less opportunities to score the football? Nah, probably not. Derp.

The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

If only there was a thread devoted to our ability to get push up front.. control the football, play in the trenches on offense..
hmmmm..

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

If only there was a thread devoted to our ability to get push up front.. control the football, play in the trenches on offense..
hmmmm..

that doesn't help if you don't throw to the guys that are open

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he's just a good D and run game away from getting back into the MVP convo as we get back to winning games

As long as we never trail in a game he'll be fine.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

If only there was a thread devoted to our ability to get push up front.. control the football, play in the trenches on offense..
hmmmm..

that doesn't help if you don't throw to the guys open

that's the Lance thread problem
this is the BP thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by bud49:
I expect Brock to be locked in after the bye. I think he will be a lot safer with the football in crucial situations.

Brock doesn't worry me, the defense does

Scoring less points is costing us games

Ya think the defense just getting absolutely abused in the TOP has anything to do with the offense having less opportunities to score the football? Nah, probably not. Derp.

The TOP against our defense is solely on how much time our offense is not eating up. we're not losing in shootouts, were losing because we can't move the ball and turning it over.

This is b******t revisionist history. Our defense is getting gashed for long, time eating drives and not getting off the field after third downs. The game against the Vikings, we punted the ball once. That doesn't happen to offenses that are struggling to move the ball.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I went back and read the scouting reports on Purdy and for the most part they were pretty accurate. The biggest concerns were about his height, arm length, hand size and arm strength. We've seen all of those factors in the short time he's played. He's had a few fumbles (hand size) altough he's recovered most of them. He's had a lot of passes tipped at the line (height and arm length).

They also said he would fit best in the type of offense that the 49ers run verses one that constantly tries to throw deep. They said he moves well inthe pocket but isn't going to be a running threat. They liked his accuracy on short to intermediate passes but felt he might struggle with the really deep throws.

So far I think the scouts were pretty close to correct. If Brock was in some other offenses he might be struggling or maybe on the bench. With the Niners he's a good fit.

He's blown pick 262 out of the water so severely that he probably has ended the term Mr Irrelevant for life. The buck stops here on that term, it's game over. You can no longer say that pick is irrelevant.

Maybe you are talking about the traits aspect of it, but he should have. been drafted a lot sooner. Cuz of the moxie, attitude, leadership, accuracy traits, and the ability to come in year 1 NFL ready, some guys aren't that year 3 after they've been traded to Dallas,

That's exactly what I was referring to. The scouts ll pretty much saw the same thing. Even the Niners waited until that last pick. They saw a guy with a lot of limitations physically that might be able to play in their system because of the things he did well. He fit the system. Most teams aren't looking for a starting QB in those late rounds. Those guys goin the first or second round. After that they're looking for backups, prospects and camp arms.

No question that Brock has played at a higher level than the scouting reports indicated but that doesn't mean the report were wrong. The one thing that's really hard to scout is the mental part of the game. That's allowed Brock to play better than his physical traits would say he should be. Only one report was totally negative. The other all saw some good traits but not enough to overcome his limitations. Their loss and the 49er gain.