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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

Agreed. That's too soon to say it's not affecting him anymore. Kyle said the same, and Brock still admitted he's not 100%.

Now, I'd say he's probably close. I don't think rust is an excuse that'll fly by week one. He'll be over 6 weeks removed from being cleared by then.

Ideally, I'd like to see him start finding a groove within the next few weeks. I'd be concerned if he wasn't feeling 100% by the end of preseason.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

I don't want to see another slow start for this team. Our slow start last season was the difference between having to go to PHI for the NFCCG and hosting it. I'd feel more confident if he show's he's 100% ready before the seaaon starts.

I would highly doubt that he is 100% until probably 3 or 4 weeks into the season. That could very easily make a soft schedule early very tough if the team as a whole is not on fire like they were when he stepped in last season. Find out very soon

That's disappointing. We are in a SB window and cannot afford to keep starting slow. I really hope you are wrong about that week 3-4 expectation.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

I don't want to see another slow start for this team. Our slow start last season was the difference between having to go to PHI for the NFCCG and hosting it. I'd feel more confident if he show's he's 100% ready before the seaaon starts.

I would highly doubt that he is 100% until probably 3 or 4 weeks into the season. That could very easily make a soft schedule early very tough if the team as a whole is not on fire like they were when he stepped in last season. Find out very soon

That's disappointing. We are in a SB window and cannot afford to keep starting slow. I really hope you are wrong about that week 3-4 expectation.

I sure hope it doesn't take that long. By week one it'll have been almost 8 weeks since he was cleared without restrictions. He spent what, 3-4 months rehabbing? I'd like to think 8 weeks of practice after being cleared for full activity is more than enough time to be fully ready.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

I don't want to see another slow start for this team. Our slow start last season was the difference between having to go to PHI for the NFCCG and hosting it. I'd feel more confident if he show's he's 100% ready before the seaaon starts.

I would highly doubt that he is 100% until probably 3 or 4 weeks into the season. That could very easily make a soft schedule early very tough if the team as a whole is not on fire like they were when he stepped in last season. Find out very soon

That's disappointing. We are in a SB window and cannot afford to keep starting slow. I really hope you are wrong about that week 3-4 expectation.

I sure hope it doesn't take that long. By week one it'll have been almost 8 weeks since he was cleared without restrictions. He spent what, 3-4 months rehabbing? I'd like to think 8 weeks of practice after being cleared for full activity is more than enough time to be fully ready.

I guess I was probably also thinking that the team won't be hitting on all cylinders on week 1 along with Purdy maybe not being 100% ready we could be in for a wild ride to start the season. Let's hope I am wrong about all of this for sure.
Some abilities are considered diminishing skills. No matter how experienced you are, in order to "trap" on an aircraft carrier, you must have done so in the previous 14 days. If you have not, you must requalify ashore on a painted simulated deck on the runway, with a fresnel lens, and under the direction of a Landing Signal Officer.

I think quarterbacking is likewise a diminishing skill. Brock is not in the groove yet. I'm gonna give him a few more approaches. Call The Ball, Brock.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
With the weapons we have, Brock is gonna look good way more often than not. A top defense slowed him down a bit in the playoffs.. but he still made plays to help us win that playoff game against the Cowboys.

Long term wise, I'm just curious to see how he plays when things don't go well personnel wise. Like no Kittle here or ..no CMC there..etc. We're not gonna have all these weapons in a year or two...especially when we eventually have to pay one of our QBs. Brock can only buy us an extra year.

Trey moved the ball against a top ranked (at the time) Cards defense with no Kittle and others. I believe that is why Kyle brought him in... to be a difference maker when things aren't going well, be it with his strong arm or legs.

Brock can be a difference maker as well, with his quick decision making and his legit feel for the game. I do believe in him, but I do also want to see it as well before we commit to him long term.

If we're fortunate enough nothing happens and we have all of our players with him and we win a Super Bowl... then so be it! lol.

He was only missing kittle that game. He had Deebo, Aiyuk, Juice, and Mitchell.

the thing that killed us in part was going 3-11 on 3rd down and 1-5 on 4th down. Kyle should shoulder some of the blame for that due to his game plan and in-game decision making.

Yeah he was missing Kittle, 3rd & Juan, and Robbie Gould. Mitchell was injured going into that game, but played.

Kyle didn't trust the back up kicker not once. If we took our field goals and made some of them, we would have had enough pts to win.. hell who knows when it comes to momentum.

That game Trey went up against JJ Watt, before JJ got the season ending injury.

But yeah that game Trey helped the team get in Cards territory 8 out of 9 drives I believe.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Aug 12, 2023 at 7:00 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Agreed. That's too soon to say it's not affecting him anymore. Kyle said the same, and Brock still admitted he's not 100%.

Now, I'd say he's probably close. I don't think rust is an excuse that'll fly by week one. He'll be over 6 weeks removed from being cleared by then.

Ideally, I'd like to see him start finding a groove within the next few weeks. I'd be concerned if he wasn't feeling 100% by the end of preseason.

Could be a ton of things....

It was like a switch was thrown the last 3 or 4 practices..... just about all the QBs dropped about 10% in completion percentage and interceptions upticked.

Could be play calling, maybe against the raiders everything was so vanilla it was easy to jump the ball, could be arm.....who knows maybe someone was open the ball simply could not get there in time, could be a missed call......maybe Brock got picked by someone he did not even see. Maybe the WR ran the wrong rout.... it is very difficult to assign blame with out seeing it. With out seeing what happened, it could be any combination of errors.

For all we know, Shanny had him throwing risky passes to see if his arm was ready to get away with it. We have no idea.

If I had to guess knowing Brock, he is gambling and loosing...but that is just a guess.

Brock needs to tighten up if he is making mistakes. he knows that.
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Originally posted by BOI49er:
Some abilities are considered diminishing skills. No matter how experienced you are, in order to "trap" on an aircraft carrier, you must have done so in the previous 14 days. If you have not, you must requalify ashore on a painted simulated deck on the runway, with a fresnel lens, and under the direction of a Landing Signal Officer.

I think quarterbacking is likewise a diminishing skill. Brock is not in the groove yet. I'm gonna give him a few more approaches. Call The Ball, Brock.

Great post and even better analogy.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Yeah he was missing Kittle, 3rd & Juan, and Robbie Gould. Mitchell was injured going into that game, but played.

Kyle didn't trust the back up kicker not once. If we took our field goals and made some of them, we would have had enough pts to win.. hell who knows when it comes to momentum.

That game Trey went up against JJ Watt, before JJ got the season ending injury.

But yeah that game Trey helped the team get in Cards territory 8 out of 9 drives I believe.

Trey also had to be the leading rusher that game. Mitchell only ran the ball 8 times and this was pre wideback Deebo. Sermon only got like 1 carry too I think. Not the best situation to be in especially since the Cards were undefeated at that point.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Practice INTs are meaningless.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Dude, holy SMH. I don't disagree with your opinion of what Trey Lance was/is expected to be based on his draft position.

I disagree with placing that expectation on him during the first 4 games of his career.

Not a single QB in NFL history is expected to do that within 4 career games. Thats absurd.

Oh sorry my bad Steve.

But I figure 4 games into his career which is actually his second year.

Four seasons for Aaron Rodgers to start. PHI took time and developed Hurts who is less talented than Trey and they sent us home last season. We won't do that because we are smart and because Purdy played exceptionally

I want premium talent at QB for a change. Brock will hit his ceiling soon and I hope it's enough to win it all but if he doesn't this year with this team he won't get to be the undisputed QB1 next year without a true competition with Trey.

Now this team in win now but Brock is as well as far as I am concerned and that is why Brock worked like hell and came back so fast so that Trey would not get first crack at what he'd earned and I don't blame him

He played like a top 5 qb last year and hasn't hit his ceiling. That's awesome!
He will be fine. He just came off surgery. He's not full strength. But each day and week he gets stronger. I wouldn't play him in preseason at all and it looks like they won't. Practice interceptions don't count in preseason camp. They don't matter at all. I would rather have him working on his arm strength for the regular season. Which he is doing. Nothing to worry about.
Not playing? So soft!
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Not playing? So soft!

Veteran day off!
[ Edited by libertyforever on Aug 13, 2023 at 12:41 PM ]
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