QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Dude, holy SMH. I don't disagree with your opinion of what Trey Lance was/is expected to be based on his draft position.

I disagree with placing that expectation on him during the first 4 games of his career.

Not a single QB in NFL history is expected to do that within 4 career games. Thats absurd.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Dude, holy SMH. I don't disagree with your opinion of what Trey Lance was/is expected to be based on his draft position.

I disagree with placing that expectation on him during the first 4 games of his career.

Not a single QB in NFL history is expected to do that within 4 career games. Thats absurd.

Oh sorry my bad Steve.

But I figure 4 games into his career which is actually his second year.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Dude, holy SMH. I don't disagree with your opinion of what Trey Lance was/is expected to be based on his draft position.

I disagree with placing that expectation on him during the first 4 games of his career.

Not a single QB in NFL history is expected to do that within 4 career games. Thats absurd.

Oh sorry my bad Steve.

But I figure 4 games into his career which is actually his second year.

Four seasons for Aaron Rodgers to start. PHI took time and developed Hurts who is less talented than Trey and they sent us home last season. We won't do that because we are smart and because Purdy played exceptionally

I want premium talent at QB for a change. Brock will hit his ceiling soon and I hope it's enough to win it all but if he doesn't this year with this team he won't get to be the undisputed QB1 next year without a true competition with Trey.

Now this team in win now but Brock is as well as far as I am concerned and that is why Brock worked like hell and came back so fast so that Trey would not get first crack at what he'd earned and I don't blame him

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Dude, holy SMH. I don't disagree with your opinion of what Trey Lance was/is expected to be based on his draft position.

I disagree with placing that expectation on him during the first 4 games of his career.

Not a single QB in NFL history is expected to do that within 4 career games. Thats absurd.

Oh sorry my bad Steve.

But I figure 4 games into his career which is actually his second year.

Four seasons for Aaron Rodgers to start. PHI took time and developed Hurts who is less talented than Trey and they sent us home last season. We won't do that because we are smart and because Purdy played exceptionally

I want premium talent at QB for a change. Brock will hit his ceiling soon and I hope it's enough to win it all but if he doesn't this year with this team he won't get to be the undisputed QB1 next year without a true competition with Trey.

Now this team in win now but Brock is as well as far as I am concerned and that is why Brock worked like hell and came back so fast so that Trey would not get first crack at what he'd earned and I don't blame him

A lot of bias in this post. For one, Rodgers and Hurts had a lot more experience in college than Trey Lance did so they could afford to sit and learn. Lance cannot or could not afford to sit for that long, everyone knows he needs reps to develop.

And we all know that if Lance went on a winning streak the way Brock did, his play would've been anointed the next Patrick Mahomes. But since Brock did it, it's exceptional and gets looped in with Jimmy Garoppolo.

Brock Purdy worked like hell because, because like every athlete in the world of sports.....just wants to play and I'm pretty sure wants to finish what he started.

Draft status carries a lot of weight and its hard to shake. If you suck but were a first round pick you get the benefit of the doubt and multiple chances. If you were a late round pick theres a stigma that takes time to shake. If Brock was a first or second round pick and everything else was the same people would be crowning him.

The stats are there but just from the eyeball test our offense never looked like it did the last few weeks before Brock played. CMC helps but we were hitting tons of explosives and scoring a ton of points. It wasnt just him.

If I were Brock I'd work my ass off too. He's making $700k or whatever. Imagine if he continues his good play for 2 years. He's going to get a $100m contract easy. That is life changing.

If he just takes it easy, takes his time and trey takes a next step (which would not surprise me), Brock ain't getting a big contract

So, lots of pressure for both these guys

Originally posted by frenchmov:
If I were Brock I'd work my ass off too. He's making $700k or whatever. Imagine if he continues his good play for 2 years. He's going to get a $100m contract easy. That is life changing.

If he just takes it easy, takes his time and trey takes a next step (which would not surprise me), Brock ain't getting a big contract

So, lots of pressure for both these guys

If Brock keeps it up, he will get like a $60-$70M contract annually.

The contracts went from like $27.5M annually (highest for a qb) to $60M+ Annually in five years, imagine where it's going to be in a few years when the salary cap raises. Lol it's sickening.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Like I said before, you would think a QB that cost three 1st round picks to get all the way up to the 3rd overall pick would elevate the players around him and not the other way around.

Just an observation.

And to have the expectation that a QB can do this 4 games into his career, is completely unfair to him.

I don't know a single QB in NFL history who had that bar as a measuring stick 4 starts into his career. Maybe Mahomes. Probably not.

All QB's drafted in the top half the 1st round have that expectation. If they didn't then why draft them that high?? So he can be a game manager, I don't think so.

Dude, holy SMH. I don't disagree with your opinion of what Trey Lance was/is expected to be based on his draft position.

I disagree with placing that expectation on him during the first 4 games of his career.

Not a single QB in NFL history is expected to do that within 4 career games. Thats absurd.

This. Kolohe has never made a secret about his feelings towards Trey, so that take isn't surprising. But for a team to actually expect a rookie QB to instantly elevate the play of all the vets who've been in the league much longer is silly. If that were the case, all it would take to turn a 2-15 team into a playoff contender would be getting that one position right. How long did it take Manning?

We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

We have zero idea what Purdy is trying to accomplish in practice. He may be purposely attempting passes beyond his standard ability in order to push himself. It's practical.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Already? If my math is correct, it was only 16 days after being fully cleared, do you really expect him to be anywhere near 100%?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

I don't want to see another slow start for this team. Our slow start last season was the difference between having to go to PHI for the NFCCG and hosting it. I'd feel more confident if he show's he's 100% ready before the seaaon starts.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Its been like two weeks. He didn't do anything more intensive than soft tossing the football for a month or two after not throwing since January. I'm most interested in what he will look like in early September.

I don't want to see another slow start for this team. Our slow start last season was the difference between having to go to PHI for the NFCCG and hosting it. I'd feel more confident if he show's he's 100% ready before the seaaon starts.

I would highly doubt that he is 100% until probably 3 or 4 weeks into the season. That could very easily make a soft schedule early very tough if the team as a whole is not on fire like they were when he stepped in last season. Find out very soon