SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at ARIZONA CARDINALS - 2021 Game 5

How many times would jimmy have been sacked today?

It would have been brutal.

Trent Williams could have gone to KC to play for championships... i wonder if hes regretting his decision

Originally posted by badguy_1:

Jimmy Garoppolo was awful and got injured the past two times he faced the terrible Seahawks defense. What was he really going to do against Arizona?

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) October 11, 2021

100% truth. Especially with Kittle missing

score more than 10 points?

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Jimmy would have gotten sacked like 10 times in this game. Trey Lance using his legs bailed him out and I cant believe we are going back to Garoppolo

Defense only giving up 17 we would have won with Jimmy.

Perhaps but I would play Lance. Over time that's the smarter move.

Drives would have ended much sooner with Jimmy. I dont believe he would have done much more.

There were a couple of drives that trey extended in ways Jimmy simply couldn't. At the same time Jimmy is more efficient over the middle and may not have need those types of plays to get the first down.

Overall I don't think Jimmy v Trey is a case of this one's not better than the other by a large margin. To me they're both different shades of limitations. Difference is, Jimmy is what Jimmy is, we don't know what Trey will be yet. Long term we're better off with Trey.

Having said that, if today is an example of how we're going to play Trey then I'm not keen on seeing that for another 12 weeks. If Trey is too raw to run a proper offense or be trusted to pass then I'd rather he sit than take that sort of punishment week in and week out.

Theyre gonna miss the playoffs regardless so why not get Trey starts especially with Jimmy wont be here next year.

I said before the season started that I would like to see Trey play, learn, make mistakes and grow, BUT not what we saw today. If he's going to start, play, make mistakes and learn it can't be with an offense that's going to leave him battered and beaten. If Trey isn't going to protect himself then Kyle needs to take it out of his hands more if he's going to start this year.

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Trent Williams could have gone to KC to play for championships... i wonder if hes regretting his decision

big time

Originally posted by badguy_1:

Jimmy Garoppolo was awful and got injured the past two times he faced the terrible Seahawks defense. What was he really going to do against Arizona?

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) October 11, 2021

100% truth. Especially with Kittle missing

Grant's a clickbait troll with blind Jimmy hate. Only spark we've had since Harbaugh. And everyone is getting injured and it keeps happening. It's endemic for this team. That has something to do with the coaching.

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Trent Williams could have gone to KC to play for championships... i wonder if hes regretting his decision

trent williams just told the media he has no problems with the rook with how he moved the offense up and down the field, with his arm and with his legs.

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by taney71:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Jimmy would have gotten sacked like 10 times in this game. Trey Lance using his legs bailed him out and I cant believe we are going back to Garoppolo

Defense only giving up 17 we would have won with Jimmy.

Perhaps but I would play Lance. Over time that's the smarter move.

Drives would have ended much sooner with Jimmy. I dont believe he would have done much more.

There were a couple of drives that trey extended in ways Jimmy simply couldn't. At the same time Jimmy is more efficient over the middle and may not have need those types of plays to get the first down.

Overall I don't think Jimmy v Trey is a case of this one's not better than the other by a large margin. To me they're both different shades of limitations. Difference is, Jimmy is what Jimmy is, we don't know what Trey will be yet. Long term we're better off with Trey.

Having said that, if today is an example of how we're going to play Trey then I'm not keen on seeing that for another 12 weeks. If Trey is too raw to run a proper offense or be trusted to pass then I'd rather he sit than take that sort of punishment week in and week out.

Theyre gonna miss the playoffs regardless so why not get Trey starts especially with Jimmy wont be here next year.

Because Trey will be injured and out for the season if he keeps taking hits like he did today.

Originally posted by maximusdecimus:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Trent Williams could have gone to KC to play for championships... i wonder if hes regretting his decision

trent williams just told the media he has no problems with the rook with how he moved the offense up and down the field, with his arm and with his legs.

What else was gonna say lol?

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Mitchell had 43 yards on 9 carries. That's almost 5 yards a carry and yet he rarely touched the ball in the 2nd half.

Nevertheless a 4th down attempt with that average. Shanny is not the sharpest young HC in the league. It's his last name why he got this job. He ain't no Mike!

How many QB draws today that were sniffed out. How many runs on first down that got nothing? No playaction. No rollouts, bootlegs?

Then we have dumb ass plays with so much motion our own team is confused and we get penalties. This is a joke and I am not entertained.

Lance is infinitely more advanced, younger, and more skilled than Kyler was at this stage in his career

I overstated my frustrations with the officiating in the game and apologize.

A lot has been said about Kyle's coaching and I'm certainly getting concerned. Sermon only getting one touch. Sherfield felt like a gem the first few games and we just abandoned him. And today's plan with Lance had me scratching my head. QB design runs seems like it should be used once or twice a half to avoid getting the QB beaten up. I thought he would run his offense and allow Lance to extend with his ability and scramble when appropriate. I am not a fan of these wrinkles that are going to get the kid killed. I would much prefer spreading the defense out and creating room for him to run as he learns to read the defense.

Wasted effort by the defense. I don't understand why Kyle didn't just take the points when we were in field goal range? I understand that Arizona's offense is explosive, but the defense was keeping them in the game.

That last touchdown basically ended the game. You kick a FG on the 1st 2 4th attempts, it's 6-10 game at the half. There was 7 minutes left on that 4th down play. If you pin AZ back, maybe that last score is a field goal instead of a TD, or maybe the 49ers stop them like they did for most of the 2nd half. The Cards were 3-10 on 3rd down.

Just bad coaching decisions IMO.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
big time

Not really

Originally posted by FL9er:
Wasted effort by the defense. I don't understand why Kyle didn't just take the points when we were in field goal range? I understand that Arizona's offense is explosive, but the defense was keeping them in the game.

That last touchdown basically ended the game. You kick a FG on the 1st 2 4th attempts, it's 6-10 game at the half. There was 7 minutes left on that 4th down play. If you pin AZ back, maybe that last score is a field goal instead of a TD, or maybe the 49ers stop them like they did for most of the 2nd half. The Cards were 3-10 on 3rd down.

Just bad coaching decisions IMO.

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