Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

I think BA went into this process trying to get everything he can. In order to accomplish that, he wasn't going to sign early regardless.

I think it's silly to believe otherwise.

BA is selfish, not team oriented and over-rated.
Best to trade him IF they get a good deal

Somehow the Browns got Amari Cooper for a 5th, so there are ways to acquire good WR's without breaking the bank

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
I think BA went into this process trying to get everything he can. In order to accomplish that, he wasn't going to sign early regardless.

I think it's silly to believe otherwise.

This. Totally agree.

Originally posted by krizay:

I think we get a 1st+ from pit and only use like a 2nd for Sutton. Something in that ball park. If or a 4th or later for one of the other guys I mentioned.

Probably only need a 3rd for Sutton, esp considering Amari Cooper only cost the Browns a 5th ... which goes to show there are ways to acquire good WR like Amari

Aiyuk is very good, but not a difference maker WR, about equal to Amari cooper

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Furlow:
The problem is he wants the money and to be on the Niners. But the Niners don't overpay for players, and the team is balanced because of that. A big part of our success. Either be down with that and sign the damn contract or go get your bag for a crap team.

The niners have set the market with several of our players. We do, in fact, overpay for players. We just don't appear ready to overpay for BA. And, I'm good with that 🤷‍♂️

I also agree with this. I don't think Aiyuk is worth top money, but still would like to see one of stars resigned in march for once lol.

Meanwhile in Dallas

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by krizay:
I think we get a 1st+ from pit and only use like a 2nd for Sutton. Something in that ball park. If or a 4th or later for one of the other guys I mentioned.

Probably only need a 3rd for Sutton, esp considering Amari Cooper only cost the Browns a 5th ... which goes to show there are ways to acquire good WR like Amari

Aiyuk is very good, but not a difference maker WR, about equal to Amari cooper

Sutton is worth more than a 3rd. He is much better than his stats. If the Steelers gave up a 2nd & 3rd for BA and we gave the Broncos the 3rd for Sutton , ok. I don't even think the Broncos would take the 2nd for Sutton. Still would rather sign BA than any else.

Originally posted by Heroism:

"Aiyuk would not be in that category…"@gregcosell explains why he doesn't see the 49ers WR as a top 4-5 player at his position: pic.twitter.com/Tnm1QSiI18

— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) August 8, 2024

Someone needs to show him that in the last 2 years Aiyuk and Chase have similar numbers /s

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Furlow:
The problem is he wants the money and to be on the Niners. But the Niners don't overpay for players, and the team is balanced because of that. A big part of our success. Either be down with that and sign the damn contract or go get your bag for a crap team.

The niners have set the market with several of our players. We do, in fact, overpay for players. We just don't appear ready to overpay for BA. And, I'm good with that 🤷‍♂️

Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Webster just redefined "clusterf**k", and we are witnessing it.

All because the team didnt sign him before the WR market exploded.

Fixed.

lol what

If we made a good offer to him before the wide receiver market exploded, we would have already locked him up.

Instead, he sees players like Amon St. Brown getting $30M and clear #2 WRs like Devonta Smith getting $25M a year, and we have people wondering why he wont sign for $26M.

It's not some new practice for players who are due for an extension to wait til the top player(Jefferson) gets his deal done to have an idea what the ceiling is. So unless you think the FO could force Aiyuk unto signing it's all just random complaints trying to throw dirt on the FO.

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Juice for one. I'd personally say Deebo as well

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
1. You said the 9ers can only trade him to a team he wants to go to. That's simply false. Justify it how you want.

2. Plenty of teams will take a player on a 1 year flyer to see if they can convince him to stay. It happens. Doesn't always work. 9ers would still get some value in that situation..just not a 1st round pick. The reason this won't happen isn't because of the influence that BA has over the circumstances. It's because the 9ers are in such a position of strength having a contract.

3. It becomes cost effective when you consider the 14m is the first year. 14+22+(28ish)= 64m. VS 90m?? Even if you factor in a 4th year with 0 income, which is unlikely, we're still talking about 22m/y over a 4 year contract vs 21m a year average using tags. And the later has no guaranteed except for the year being played...meaning less injury risk for the team.

I mean he's not unhappy here. He wants to play in SF. He just wants to get paid. Teams aren't gonna give up anything meaningful if there's no extension included. Kinda disagree there.

Folks gotta understand APY means nothing. His cap hit is not gonna be $30M, $30M, $30M each yr for the life of his deal. It's not evenly distributed like that. It's ALL about the GTD cash. Go look at every contract and how the cap is distributed.

You're basically saying tag him twice and give straight up $64M FGTD for 3 yrs of football? That's a s**t ton of gtd $ that we can't spread out at all & have no long-term commitment. There's no way to manipulate that on the cap, no restructuring nothing.

I don't expect him to leave. I think he'll be wearing red and gold. I think the 9ers will give a number between 26-28.

Yes, I get that the number means little when you can shove things around, but how else do you suggest discussing the topic? There has to be some sort of measuring stick even if it is flawed. Amon-Ra Brown's contract is 120m/4 years with 77m guaranteed.

I'm not saying we should tag BA. I'm saying that it is cheaper than 30m a year. Look even if we match Amon-Ra's contract that's 77m Locked in over 4 years. Vs 64m over 3. And the Tag guarantees are each year so if Amon-Ra has a career ending injury his team loses 77m. Using the current contract the only loss would be 14m. Then 22m. Then 28m. The risk is MUCH less. The non-guaranteed money still hits the cap, it just gets shifted around a bit..so even if the contract was set to be gentle upfront, 9ers still eventually pay for it.

If the only goal was to get talent on the cheap for a superbowl run, paying 14m then the 22m tag then using the last tag as trade bait would be the best option. There's all sorts of ramifications that would go with that play, but there it is.

I'm all for BA getting his payday...just not the one he thinks he should get. Not my money, but I think the 9ers are right on this one.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Someone needs to show him that in the last 2 years Aiyuk and Chase have similar numbers /s

That has to mean they are similarly talented. Scheme and number of other weapons on the team shouldn't really count for much

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Webster just redefined "clusterf**k", and we are witnessing it.

All because the team didnt sign him before the WR market exploded.

Fixed.

They tried and BA decided to wait until some other players signed. Not the team's fault that that happened, the offer was on the table.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Juice for one. I'd personally say Deebo as well

All the players named besides Deebo are arguably the best players in the league at their position, not even the biggest Aiyuk fan can say the same about him. And in Deebos case, he was coming off one of the most dominate seasons ever before his contract