Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Heroism:

"Aiyuk would not be in that category…"@gregcosell explains why he doesn't see the 49ers WR as a top 4-5 player at his position: pic.twitter.com/Tnm1QSiI18

— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) August 8, 2024

Someone needs to show him that in the last 2 years Aiyuk and Chase have similar numbers /s

Cosell watches a lot of film. Not saying he's infallible, but he isn't just some random dude with an opinion.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Are the Niners going to try and sell getting a horrible package from the Steelers by saying "Hey we were able to package that 2nd RD pick to get Sutton"?

No you won't be able to sugarcoat it because the Steelers still would have gotten your #1 WR for trash. If you can get Sutton for a 2nd RD pick why not just trade your 2nd right now for Sutton? It's stupid. Steelers give us their 2nd RD pick, a backup center, a trash Tackle who is worse than Mckivitz, a #6 WR for a top 10 WR but hey it's good value because they were able to package that 2nd RD pick for Sutton? F**k that. Especially when you can keep BA and trade your own 2nd for Sutton.

Why do you believe this? They aren't taking a bum offer from the Steelers.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Juice for one. I'd personally say Deebo as well

All the players named besides Deebo are arguably the best players in the league at their position, not even the biggest Aiyuk fan can say the same about him. And in Deebos case, he was coming off one of the most dominate seasons ever before his contract

AND at the time he was the only WR option the 9ers had. Aiyuk wasn't showing his potential yet.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I also don't think he wants to leave, that's why he's holding in, not holding out.

Not to mention he has to sell his house, find a new school for his son, learn a new playbook, adjust to a new team and a new QB, leave the West Coast where he grew up… much easier to stay in SF.

I don't think he cares where he goes, aslong as he gets what he's asking for

Dont believe that. If so, he would've already been traded. There are teams that would pay him 30 million +.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Juice for one. I'd personally say Deebo as well

All the players named besides Deebo are arguably the best players in the league at their position, not even the biggest Aiyuk fan can say the same about him. And in Deebos case, he was coming off one of the most dominate seasons ever before his contract

AND at the time he was the only WR option the 9ers had. Aiyuk wasn't showing his potential yet.

I think we're getting off track. My point was, we have shown the appetite to pay top dollar. If we thought he was as valuable as he thinks he is, this would have been ironed out.

we're not penny pinchers was my point

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Juice for one. I'd personally say Deebo as well

Juice is the best in the league at his position also. I might give you Deebo, but he too was coming off an All Pro year and is a fairly unique WR. At any rate, if those are the only two you can come up with, I don't think it really fits the bill of a team having a history of overpaying.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I'm expecting a down year for BA, whether he gets a new contract or not. He should be continuing to build rapport with Brock. hopefully, Deebo can make up any of BA's slack at wideout while he gets up to speed during the season.

Even if he is a little down, Deebo likely is up, and the receiving talent has a chance to be the best we've had under Kyle.

Well, I've changed my opinion. I think Aiyuk has worked his way back into Kyle's dog house with all this BS. He's had enough. We'll work the best deal, and I have no idea what that will be. I wish we could have kept him for one year to give Ricky a year to adjust. We really need draft picks to get more people on rookie deals, but it's too late for that to help this year. I just don't know if it's needed enough to take on another big contract this year. We've got a lot of guys we don't have a good feel for how they're looking.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I don't expect him to leave. I think he'll be wearing red and gold. I think the 9ers will give a number between 26-28.

Yes, I get that the number means little when you can shove things around, but how else do you suggest discussing the topic? There has to be some sort of measuring stick even if it is flawed. Amon-Ra Brown's contract is 120m/4 years with 77m guaranteed.

I'm not saying we should tag BA. I'm saying that it is cheaper than 30m a year. Look even if we match Amon-Ra's contract that's 77m Locked in over 4 years. Vs 64m over 3. And the Tag guarantees are each year so if Amon-Ra has a career ending injury his team loses 77m. Using the current contract the only loss would be 14m. Then 22m. Then 28m. The risk is MUCH less. The non-guaranteed money still hits the cap, it just gets shifted around a bit..so even if the contract was set to be gentle upfront, 9ers still eventually pay for it.

If the only goal was to get talent on the cheap for a superbowl run, paying 14m then the 22m tag then using the last tag as trade bait would be the best option. There's all sorts of ramifications that would go with that play, but there it is.

I'm all for BA getting his payday...just not the one he thinks he should get. Not my money, but I think the 9ers are right on this one.

ASB has one yr where his cap hit is $30M. you're using a hallow metric to make a point there. No the risk isn't less because that cash is FGTD every yr from now until that 2nd tag. Plus you get no leverage to move any of that money around to make the cap work.

we as fans should only care about the cap hit. What they get in real money is what should matter for the players.

look I'm not saying don't tag him or whatever, I'm pointing out it's not really cheaper. If he signed an extension right now his cap hit would be less than $14M. His cap hit next yr wouldn't be large either. Go look at Deebo's contract

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Cosmo:
Who did they overpay? Bosa was coming of DPOY, so he became the highest paid defender. CMC is clearly the best RB in the league and is paid as such. When TW signed his deal it made him highest paid at the position, again, warranted IMO.

Juice for one. I'd personally say Deebo as well

Juice is the best in the league at his position also. I might give you Deebo, but he too was coming off an All Pro year and is a fairly unique WR. At any rate, if those are the only two you can come up with, I don't think it really fits the bill of a team having a history of overpaying.

The idea of "overpaying" is subjective. The entire point was that we do pay top dollar contracts, which is what BA is looking for.

wasnt meant to be an argument. Was just highlighting that BA is probably trying to get what he feels others on the team have gotten

Originally posted by NYniner85:
ASB has one yr where his cap hit is $30M. you're using a hallow metric to make a point there. No the risk isn't less because that cash is FGTD every yr from now until that 2nd tag. Plus you get no leverage to move any of that money around to make the cap work.

we as fans should only care about the cap hit. What they get in real money is what should matter for the players.

look I'm not saying don't tag him or whatever, I'm pointing out it's not really cheaper. If he signed an extension right now his cap hit would be less than $14M. His cap hit next yr wouldn't be large either. Go look at Deebo's contract

The only reason to consider the tag is in regard to the idea that we can still trade him after his 5th year option…. Don't have to let him hit free agency 👍🏻

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
All the players named besides Deebo are arguably the best players in the league at their position, not even the biggest Aiyuk fan can say the same about him. And in Deebos case, he was coming off one of the most dominate seasons ever before his contract

BA was the best WR on arguably the best roster/offense in the league last yr

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Webster just redefined "clusterf**k", and we are witnessing it.

All because the team didnt sign him before the WR market exploded.

Fixed.

lol what

If we made a good offer to him before the wide receiver market exploded, we would have already locked him up.

Instead, he sees players like Amon St. Brown getting $30M and clear #2 WRs like Devonta Smith getting $25M a year, and we have people wondering why he wont sign for $26M.

It's not some new practice for players who are due for an extension to wait til the top player(Jefferson) gets his deal done to have an idea what the ceiling is. So unless you think the FO could force Aiyuk unto signing it's all just random complaints trying to throw dirt on the FO.

Amon St. Brown
Devonta Smith
AJ Brown
Michael Pittman
Jaylen Waddle
Nico Collins

All of those WRs signed extensions prior (in some cases months prior) to Justin Jefferson signing his contract. You are making it sound like me saying that we should have handled Aiyuk's extension prior to the WR market exploding was me advocating something that is never done.

And you say I am making random complaints about the FO.....are you implying that the Front Office deserves no blame for how this was handled?

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
The idea of "overpaying" is subjective. The entire point was that we do pay top dollar contracts, which is what BA is looking for.

wasnt meant to be an argument. Was just highlighting that BA is probably trying to get what he feels others on the team have gotten

IMO that DJ Moore deal is fair. Maybe a little bit more.

edit:


Make it work SF

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I don't think he cares where he goes, aslong as he gets what he's asking for

He's definitely asking for a ton of money. It pretty well sets him up for life if he manages his finances well. 49ers might go a bit towards the McVay cap binge and purge route with Aiyuk. Basically McVay bought a Super Bowl a la the '94 49ers. We shall see.

If he cared solely about then money he'd be in a patriot uniform by now

Not all in Aiyuk's hands though. Patriots can offer Aiyuk a billion dollars, but if 49ers don't get two day one picks from the Pats, the Patriots can stuff it.