These trade scenarios for BA are an absolute joke. Amari Cooper straight up? Lol, thanks but absolutely no.
Screw his feelings, let him sit and lose money, then threaten to tag him. Make him play for what was on the table, if not, let him sit the next 2 years and see how that works out for his career.
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Aug 7, 2024 at 8:52 AM
- Patton
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Aug 7, 2024 at 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by fropwns:BA obviously wants a lot more than 28, or we wouldn't be where we are right now
Quick poll, by show of hand, if the niners raised the offer to 28 and Yuk took it, would that satiate all involved? Or nah...the offer is on the table, f**k him.
I am asking because it feels like a break up that nobody wants. I was wondering then if a slight bump up would be enough to allow him to save face and stay.
I want happy player, happy team, and don't care what the number is. The number has really no bearing on fans. Separately, I think the gap between the two parties are guaranteed money somewhere between Amon-Ra St.Brown's 77m and Justin Jefferson's 110m. Pretty big gap.
Aug 7, 2024 at 8:55 AM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:If he wants to go to a good team why does he want to go to Pittsburgh?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Can Aiyuk come back and play with the 49ers and be happy? I don't see how. Anyway if he leaves the 49ers aren't going to fall apart. People were upset when Buckner left and the team went on to another SB. Fans want the team to keep every good player but in this era of overpaid athletes and salary caps it's really hard. This isn't like it was in the 80s. They're projected to be quite a bit over the cap next year so that means there will be a lot of cuts and restructuring.
This isn't the first player to demand a trade and be given approval to speak to other teams for a trade. Some of those players end up signing the extension and are just fine and understand its business.
True but this seems a little different. If it was just about money a deal might have been done by now. NE was apparently offering him what he wanted but he didn't want to play there. He wants to be paid and go to a good team. He feels like the 49ers aren't giving him the respect he deserves. He wants to be the highest paid but he's not the best receiver. He's had really poor showings in playoff games when coverage gets tighter. Wait until he leaves and goes to the Steelers or Browns. He won't have the luxury of Kyle scheming him open while Deebo and CMC draw coverage.
I can't figure that out either. Maybe he doesn't realize that Wilson is fading fast and Fields couldn't succeed in Chicago. Maybe he hasn't looked at the schedule which is one of the toughest in the league. Maybe he thinks this is still the steelers of the 70s.
Or maybe he has been listening too much to Ryan Clark, a former Pittsburgh Steeler.
Maybe he knows they're a class act organization and made the playoffs last year with awful qb play. he probably believes Fields can be a stud still. who knows.
I can't wait for this to be over. lol it's just days of nonsense from all angles with the media.
I'd make him sit all season if I didn't love the offer from the steelers, TBH.
I respect the fact that the Steelers are loyal to their coaches and basically never fire them.
At the same time, that's an organization that also has been stuck in the mud under Tomlin post Big Ben. I know we keep hitting our head on our own ceiling for whatever reason(s) you want to mention, Shanny, QB play, offensive line play, refs, etc.... but at least that ceiling is getting to the Super Bowl.
For the Steelers, it's maybe we squeak into the playoffs if things break our way. If Burrow stays healthy that probably doesn't happen last year either. So basically, things broke their way.
I don't know. I think we all know even in our own regular boring lives even if you're unhappy where you work the grass isn't always greener elsewhere. BA may find that out.
Aug 7, 2024 at 8:56 AM
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Originally posted by Patton:
These trade scenarios for BA are an absolute joke. Amari Cooper straight up? Lol, thanks but absolutely no.
Screw his feelings, let him sit and lose money, then threaten to tag him. Make him play for what was on the table, if not, let him sit the next 2 years and see how that works out for his career.
This is what I don't get. Why is the team giving in to his demands? f**k his feeling. Make his ass play on the 5th year and worry about trading him next offseason.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:00 AM
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Originally posted by Heroism:He would have been gone a few weeks ago if they were giving into his demands.
Originally posted by Patton:
These trade scenarios for BA are an absolute joke. Amari Cooper straight up? Lol, thanks but absolutely no.
Screw his feelings, let him sit and lose money, then threaten to tag him. Make him play for what was on the table, if not, let him sit the next 2 years and see how that works out for his career.
This is what I don't get. Why is the team giving in to his demands? f**k his feeling. Make his ass play on the 5th year and worry about trading him next offseason.
you at least have to listen to offers
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Aug 7, 2024 at 9:01 AM ]
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:02 AM
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My impression from the reports is that the parties had a deal, but Aiyuk backed out when the other WRs started getting paid more. The 49ers have clearly not responded well to his new posture because the team has not offered more money. I don't think this is a matter of ego or respect, but of precedence and cap planning. I think the team set a number they are willing to pay, and are otherwise fine with him playing out the 5th year option (I think the 5th year option may likely be the 49ers preferred result) to reevaluate its position next year (this assumption that Deebo is gone after the year is overstated). I understand the team feeling swindled by Aiyuk's refusal to follow through with the deal while having little leverage because he's under contract. I also understand Aiyuk wanting as much money as possible. This whole go find a team to do the trade deal is a ploy to get him back to the 49ers either on a new contract or on his 5th year option.The team should only take a trade deal if they 100% get a proper return, otherwise make Aiyuk sit out or play on the 14 mil. Paraag is not emotional and I cannot believe someone with his negotiation experience would let Aiyuk get him on tilt. The team also gave into Bosa because Bosa was worth it - Aiyuk is not. Patience is all that is necessary here.
[ Edited by SD49er on Aug 7, 2024 at 9:03 AM ]
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:05 AM
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I want top 5 money but I am not a top 5 player yet. I don't want to stay in San Francisco because they won't pay me what I want. Trade me. Ok. We agreed to terms with the pats. You get everything you asked for. The top 5 money, out of sf, and you win. His answer, na.. I don't want to play for them…. Dude, get your s**t together before you become a laughing stock. Losing respect for bro. He plays here or he sits. I don't see anything else happening for him. He overplayed his hand.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:06 AM
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Honestly, was watching Get Up this morning and Tannenbaum brought up an interesting option:
Up Aiyuk's base from 14M to 20-21M for 1yr, and guarantee not to franchise in 2025
This gets Aiyuk his money, saves face for everyone, and gives him the opportunity to play for whoever he wants in 2025. At this point I'd rather have him for this big push for SB return and allows us to have money ready to pay Purdy in 2025.
Up Aiyuk's base from 14M to 20-21M for 1yr, and guarantee not to franchise in 2025
This gets Aiyuk his money, saves face for everyone, and gives him the opportunity to play for whoever he wants in 2025. At this point I'd rather have him for this big push for SB return and allows us to have money ready to pay Purdy in 2025.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:06 AM
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Originally posted by SD49er:That very well could be it, an agreement was probably made at one point and now it's changed. Could be the handshakegate…
My impression from the reports is that the parties had a deal, but Aiyuk backed out when the other WRs started getting paid more. The 49ers have clearly not responded well to his new posture because the team has not offered more money. I don't think this is a matter of ego or respect, but of precedence and cap planning. I think the team set a number they are willing to pay, and are otherwise fine with him playing out the 5th year option (I think the 5th year option may likely be the 49ers preferred result) to reevaluate its position next year (this assumption that Deebo is gone after the year is overstated). I understand the team feeling swindled by Aiyuk's refusal to follow through with the deal while having little leverage because he's under contract. I also understand Aiyuk wanting as much money as possible. This whole go find a team to do the trade deal is a ploy to get him back to the 49ers either on a new contract or on his 5th year option.The team should only take a trade deal if they 100% get a proper return, otherwise make Aiyuk sit out or play on the 14 mil. Paraag is not emotional and I cannot believe someone with his negotiation experience would let Aiyuk get him on tilt. The team also gave into Bosa because Bosa was worth it - Aiyuk is not. Patience is all that is necessary here.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:07 AM
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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I want top 5 money but I am not a top 5 player yet. I don't want to stay in San Francisco because they won't pay me what I want. Trade me. Ok. We agreed to terms with the pats. You get everything you asked for. The top 5 money, out of sf, and you win. His answer, na.. I don't want to play for them…. Dude, get your s**t together before you become a laughing stock. Losing respect for bro. He plays here or he sits. I don't see anything else happening for him. He overplayed his hand.
Yup, dude needs to STFU and play, worry about your contract next season.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:08 AM
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Originally posted by Crazy49er1313:Nah, overpay for a one year rental that is probably going to come out flat due to missing camp
Honestly, was watching Get Up this morning and Tannenbaum brought up an interesting option:
Up Aiyuk's base from 14M to 20-21M for 1yr, and guarantee not to franchise in 2025
This gets Aiyuk his money, saves face for everyone, and gives him the opportunity to play for whoever he wants in 2025. At this point I'd rather have him for this big push for SB return and allows us to have money ready to pay Purdy in 2025.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:11 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Nah, overpay for a one year rental that is probably going to come out flat due to missing camp
That's basically what we'd get from Cleveland with Cooper, and I know Aiyuk is willing to block and knows offense, can we say the same for Cooper?
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Patton:
These trade scenarios for BA are an absolute joke. Amari Cooper straight up? Lol, thanks but absolutely no.
Screw his feelings, let him sit and lose money, then threaten to tag him. Make him play for what was on the table, if not, let him sit the next 2 years and see how that works out for his career.
This is what I don't get. Why is the team giving in to his demands? f**k his feeling. Make his ass play on the 5th year and worry about trading him next offseason.
Only reason (outside of getting a haul) is that if Kyle is prioritizing his personal feelings over the needs of the team. Has nothing to do with BA's vibes.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SD49er:That very well could be it, an agreement was probably made at one point and now it's changed. Could be the handshakegate…
My impression from the reports is that the parties had a deal, but Aiyuk backed out when the other WRs started getting paid more. The 49ers have clearly not responded well to his new posture because the team has not offered more money. I don't think this is a matter of ego or respect, but of precedence and cap planning. I think the team set a number they are willing to pay, and are otherwise fine with him playing out the 5th year option (I think the 5th year option may likely be the 49ers preferred result) to reevaluate its position next year (this assumption that Deebo is gone after the year is overstated). I understand the team feeling swindled by Aiyuk's refusal to follow through with the deal while having little leverage because he's under contract. I also understand Aiyuk wanting as much money as possible. This whole go find a team to do the trade deal is a ploy to get him back to the 49ers either on a new contract or on his 5th year option.The team should only take a trade deal if they 100% get a proper return, otherwise make Aiyuk sit out or play on the 14 mil. Paraag is not emotional and I cannot believe someone with his negotiation experience would let Aiyuk get him on tilt. The team also gave into Bosa because Bosa was worth it - Aiyuk is not. Patience is all that is necessary here.
Right! The team probably feels jilted. Now with Aiyuk's bs trying to pick his preferred destination won't work unless the team gets its ROI. He has no leverage. I also find this all to short term thinking. I would take less money with the 49ers knowing that in two years I would be the main offensive weapon. He should be thinking about how to get to contract three - Shanny and Purdy can help make this happen.
Aug 7, 2024 at 9:14 AM
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Josina just said the pats had the highest offer at over $28.5m.
Previous reports say Niners offered around $26m.
If both of these things are true - they will figure it out.
Previous reports say Niners offered around $26m.
If both of these things are true - they will figure it out.